Gyno treatment regiment...Letro? Stane?

[Adlai1982]

I'm new and don't understand a lot of lingo so please spell it out for me at first.

30yo
237.2 lb
27% bf ??
(my machine just read that but 6 weeks ago at 255lb my nutritionist used calipers and measured 19% BF then so I dunno)

3rd cycle ever...thinking of going full time

I've now developed gyno this week during my cycle under my left nipple.

I can do this during my cycle, right?

Got my stuff ordered on the way and need regiment or possibly product suggestions please.

1.Stane was suggested over letro to me...although all I've heard about is letro
2.Prami
3.Already got dex .5mg caps (15 left, ordering more unless better delivery system to my body can be suggested?)

I really need help setting out the dosage plan please. And I keep hearing about the rebound? Something for that too?

Thanks!
Last edited by Adlai1982; Today at 08:44 AM. Reason: I didn't post correctly

 

[A Soft Koala]

I'm new and don't understand a lot of lingo so please spell it out for me at first.

30yo
237.2 lb
27% bf ??
(my machine just read that but 6 weeks ago at 255lb my nutritionist used calipers and measured 19% BF then so I dunno)

3rd cycle ever...thinking of going full time

I've now developed gyno this week during my cycle under my left nipple.

I can do this during my cycle, right?

Got my stuff ordered on the way and need regiment or possibly product suggestions please.

1.Stane was suggested over letro to me...although all I've heard about is letro
2.Prami
3.Already got dex .5mg caps (15 left, ordering more unless better delivery system to my body can be suggested?)

I really need help setting out the dosage plan please. And I keep hearing about the rebound? Something for that too?

Thanks!
Last edited by Adlai1982; Today at 08:44 AM. Reason: I didn't post correctly

A few things with this post that make me scratch my head:
1. Cycle not listed
2. Full time? Does that mean you want to go on HRT?
3. 27% bf, very high bf...what were you thinking starting a cycle?
4. What is your PCT for this unknown cycle?

 

[stantonz71]

We will need to know what you ran also to cause your gyno you currently have. So far you have gone about this all wrong. Take care of the your existing gyno with the help here once we figure out the causes. Then you need to step back, learn to loose the weight down to a acceptable bf% while you educate yourself on compounds, ai's, and pct. Don't touch shit until you know what your doing.

 

[muscleaddiction]

^^^ all the above!

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[dylangemelli]

please list the cycle you ran so we can gauge what is causing this...

you are going to get the help that you need but after this is corrected you need to stay far away from any aas until you get other things right man... your diet being the first... you are flat out way overweight to be running any sort of cycle... its too bad that you wasted a cycle running it at that body fat but until you can get your weight under control, you need to back away from the steroids...

please post your cycle and how far along you are on it so we can help you properly...

 

[Essie]

Just to add ... when you do post up your cycle, please have it broken down e.g

Week X-Y Testosterone (whatever ester, cyp, enan, prop) and at what dosage and how often
Week X-Y Oral (whatever it might be) and at what dosage and how often
Week ... ... ...

Then please also specify in which week of your cycle you are. All this would assist us and give us the relevant info we need to better assist you.

 

[Adlai1982]

please list the cycle you ran so we can gauge what is causing this...

you are going to get the help that you need but after this is corrected you need to stay far away from any aas until you get other things right man... your diet being the first... you are flat out way overweight to be running any sort of cycle... its too bad that you wasted a cycle running it at that body fat but until you can get your weight under control, you need to back away from the steroids...

please post your cycle and how far along you are on it so we can help you properly...

Ok, I think I fucked up pretty good here man and I'm really scared. Any help would be greatly appreciated and I'll stay the fuck away from it all until I can fully educate myself. I went to a couple HRT docs for awhile to lose some body fat and gain some lean muscle and after awhile I figured I could manage it on my own for cheaper. What an idiot I am. I may have mismeasured when dosing.

I don't believe my body fat is that high. I'm posting a photo. I think the machine I used this morning is wrong because my nutrionist weighed me out and came up with 19 percent 6 weeks ago. I've leaned more since then with Phentermine.


Ok here goes, I hope I list this out correctly:

26 week cycle..but I have considered (until now) staying on it full time.

Week 1-12 Testosterone:
.75ml 250mg tri-test (Cyp 100, Prop 100, Enath 50) every Friday
.75ml 200mg Deca Every Friday
1cc 2000mg HCG Every Friday

Week 1-12 Oral:
Arimidex 0.5 caps M/W/F

Week 13-26 Testosterone
.75ml 200mg Cyp every Friday
.25ml 100mg Prop every Monday/Thursday (total of .5 a week)
.5ml 200mg Deca every Friday
1cc 1000mg HCG every Friday

Week 13-26 Oral:
Arimidex 0.5 caps M/W/F

I have 15 arimidex .05 caps left. Need to order more

I'm in week 23 now with no PRT plan and a pea sized lump in my left nipple thats pulsating with soreness. I've ingested 2x .05 arimidex caps yesterday and I have 15 left.

I know I'm a fucking idiot. Please help me and perhaps someone out there can learn from my mistakes without making it themselves.

I spoke to NeedtogetAAS on his cell briefly this morning. Really nice guy.

After my convo with him I have ordered:

Liquid Stane 30mL 25mg/mL
Liquid Prami 60mL 1mg/mL

Both on RUSH delivery

But I don't know how to take it.

These are the current medications I am on:
Chantix .05 2xday (on day 18 of 60)
Phentermine 37.5mg once a day (on day 17)
Melatonin 5mg 3xday to sleep

This is a list of supplements I still have left:
13ml 200mg Deca
10ml 100mg Test Prop
12ml 200mg Test Cyp
8ml 1000mg HCG
15x 0.5 Arimidex
After taking inventory, I def fucked up and overdosed on Prop 100. I list all that above to help take into account whatever treatment plan you suggest.

I haven't gotten a blood test since December and don't know how to obtain one without a doctor and wouldn't know how to read it anyway but maybe I could get one with your directions and post it here?

Everything is Pharmaceutical grade and doctor prescribed.

PLEASE HELP ME!

 

[muscleaddiction]

If you talked to needto this morning, follow his direction. The problem I see first hand is not taking Prami or Caber for Deca. The gyno is most likely being caused by the Deca, not Test...I would PM needto, and work with him and follow his direction from here on out...he will help you if he already spoke to you on the phone bro...he is an angel here watching over all.

I would get started on Letro if you have a lump, but as I said PM needto and he will help you...get some Forma Stanzol as well...and it will be at your mailbox in 3 days. Plus your doses were all screwed up...why .75 cc???

 

[Adlai1982]

I wanted it to last me awhile. I wasnt so interested in getting big and ripped as feeling better. My T levels had dropped to 17 back in Oct 2011 bc I havent been getting prescribed PCT. I had only rebounded to 220 by December 2011. By the time I reordered in March...I wanted to get ripped...so I upped it by .5ml a week. The first time I ever cycled, I was prescribed 1.5ml a week and I turned into an anger monster. I didnt wanna rage so I kept it under that.

 

[Adlai1982]

Yea, needto told me to post and ask for help from you guys too.

 

[muscleaddiction]

Your gyno doesn't look that bad, although it is hard to tell with the bodyfat you are carrying. I don't know what needto said to do but when you get your Prami get on it right away, what are these for?

Chantix .05 2xday (on day 18 of 60)
Phentermine 37.5mg once a day (on day 17)

Too lazy to look up at moment...

.75ml 200mg Cyp every Friday...this is only 150mg EW
.25ml 100mg Prop every Monday/Thursday (total of .5 a week)...50mg EW
.5ml 200mg Deca every Friday...100mg EW
1cc 1000mg HCG every Friday

These dosages are too low, this is kind of crazy to even run. Not even worth it IMO. You just need to get progesterone under control.

 

[Adlai1982]

Yea, I don't think it's noticeable. There are smaller visible bumps appearing on and around the nipple too but I duno if it's jus tmy paranoia or they were always there. I can just feel it...it's very sore and tender and I can feel a semi flat lump directly underneath the left nipple. No problem with my right. The phentermine is an appetite suppression...I've gone from 243-237 in 5 days on it. The Chantix is to quit smoking again. When I broke up with my girl 3 months ago, I picked back up smoking cause I was so stressed. It was at that time I upped my dose too..week 13-26 to get looking better. I know what you're saying about it maybe being low doses...this was supposed to be more HRT and not a real stack cycle. My fear is that the bump in my tit is going to get bigger..at what point do I know it's grown as big as it's gonna get? I'm now eating the dex every morning and night instead of 3x a week as needto told me today on the phone. I sent needto a PM. My goal here is to cut down the fat and just get lean and cut. Like 210-215 with 10-12%BF. Nothing crazy...I just dont know what the hell I'm doing. After I get this situation handled, I'm gonna take a step back and hope I can get somewhat normal levels again. Then I'm going to do a real cut down first and learn how to do it here. Then I'll try it again, hopefully with better results. Thanks again for your continued wisdom and answers.

 

[muscleaddiction]

Bro, you are relying on the gear to get you your goals...WRONG!!! I have seen all the stuff you are taking, but not you diet? What you are eating, when, calories, macros, training regimen, all the important stuff that makes or breaks a cycle, diet, goals to lose fat...it all comes down to what you are doing in the kitchen.

 

[Adlai1982]

You're right. I'm gona get this gyno handled and then do a proper post cycle. Hopefully the extended period on Deca didnt fuck me up too bad long term for reproduction. Then I'm gonna go natural for a bit. Get some discipline in diet and cardio and come back to AAS when i'm better educated.