Gyno surgery

[genman]

So I went to my wife's plastic surgeon yesterday and told him that I have a lump on my right side. He tells me to take off my shirt and says "how long have you been on steroids?". I said, "I don't know what you're talking about, I'm on HRT, 200mg test cyp/ew" and he laughs at me. Okay, maybe it's a little obvious, but then he goes on to tell me that he wouldn't do anything about it. I told him that I am uncomfortable having a lump in my chest and want it out and biopsied. I also told him that I would like the other gland taken out at the same time and he tells me that he won't do that. This guy is considered the best in the area, but I'm rethinking using him because of his attitude. He was great untill I took my shirt off. My wife was with me and even she was shocked. The question is, is it worth the hassle to use the best or should I move on? It's hard to get a solid recommendation for this type of procedure, because it's done so seldom.

 

[msam76]

The best come with an attitude most times. They know they are the best, so you are at their mercy. Evaluate the situation and ask yourself if you really need the best. If it is something very important and you don't want complications as much, then go with the best. I don't know how big the lump is, but if it is small and requires only an in office removal, any doctor will do. If you have to go under, go with someone who is good. I, personally, would call the doctor on his attitude. But keep in mind, you didn't come clean with him about gear use and maybe he coped an attitude because he knew better.

 

[Twoguns]

First of all, never use a doctor you aren't comfortable with. I would go with a guy. You are a customer and they are providing a service. Period. As far as not coming clean about gear use and the docs tude, fuck him, who is going to sit there and start going into it. Do u think he really expected you to say, hey yeah I juice it up. He should 1. remove glands as you requested 2. collect the money.

 

[solidspine]

It is a simple procedure, any board certified surgeon can do it, so move on to a normal person, and don’t give your money to a prick.

 

[rockstar6181]

you the customer mate he should be treating you as such, id go else where, good luck with it i know what ur going through in same boat.

 

[genman]

So I went to my wife's plastic surgeon yesterday and told him that I have a lump on my right side. He tells me to take off my shirt and says "how long have you been on steroids?". I said, "I don't know what you're talking about, I'm on HRT, 200mg test cyp/ew" and he laughs at me. Okay, maybe it's a little obvious, but then he goes on to tell me that he wouldn't do anything about it. I told him that I am uncomfortable having a lump in my chest and want it out and biopsied. I also told him that I would like the other gland taken out at the same time and he tells me that he won't do that. This guy is considered the best in the area, but I'm rethinking using him because of his attitude. He was great untill I took my shirt off. My wife was with me and even she was shocked. The question is, is it worth the hassle to use the best or should I move on? It's hard to get a solid recommendation for this type of procedure, because it's done so seldom.

Thanks all. I've decided to tell this guy exactly what I think of him and move on to someone else. I appreciate the input.

 

[Svengali]

As relatively simple this procedure is to perform, it is incredibly difficult to get perfect. I would try to find a specialist that deals with bodybuilders as a big part of their practice. I had a buddy that had his done. It did not look good. It inverted a bit at the bottom. When he was doing the USA in 97 or 98 I have to think that the botched job hurt his placement (still in the top10). Now there are dermal fillers like Restylane that can correct these mistakes/anomalies. But, do you really want to play that game >???? Find a gyno specialist.. You may want to talk to AR or some of the mods on the board to get a consensus...

 

[Mr.X]

Go with a doctor who does what YOU WANT not what HE wants....

 

[drbermant]

So I went to my wife's plastic surgeon yesterday and told him that I have a lump on my right side. He tells me to take off my shirt and says "how long have you been on steroids?". I said, "I don't know what you're talking about, I'm on HRT, 200mg test cyp/ew" and he laughs at me. Okay, maybe it's a little obvious, but then he goes on to tell me that he wouldn't do anything about it. I told him that I am uncomfortable having a lump in my chest and want it out and biopsied. I also told him that I would like the other gland taken out at the same time and he tells me that he won't do that. This guy is considered the best in the area, but I'm rethinking using him because of his attitude. He was great untill I took my shirt off. My wife was with me and even she was shocked. The question is, is it worth the hassle to use the best or should I move on? It's hard to get a solid recommendation for this type of procedure, because it's done so seldom.

Gynecomastia male chest sculpting is not a rare operation for some, I manage up to 8 gynecomastia patients a day from around the world.

For a good doctor, hiding the gear you are on is foolish. Good surgery means understanding the patient's problem, not just cutting with a scapel. If there is another cause for the gynecomastia, then it should be investigated before surgery. I operate on many body builders and understanding the cause of the condition and then an individual on gear modifying their cycles for surgery / healing can give the best results.

It does not take much to disturb the cut look of someone with a low body fat % such as a bodybuilder and I have sculpted many. Bodybuilding can help with fat and muscles, but will not help with gland and you cannot pick where the fat comes from. My bodybuilding patients typically tell me that what is on top of the muscle gets pushed out further in making bigger muscles.

You can find some examples of pictures before and after gynecomastia surgery Gynecomastia Gallery - Bodybuilders

Here - Gyno and BodyBuilding

Puffy Nipples and Bodybuilding

Here - Gynecomastia and BodyBuilding

Here - Gynecomastia Treatment

and

Here - Gynecomastia BodyBuilding.

I would suggest looking beyond each link's first page at all of the views for each patient to better understand the difference in the look before / after surgery. There are other examples of lean patients, but thought this would be a good start.

Hope this helps,

Michael Bermant, MD
Learn More About Gynecomastia and Chest Sculpture

 

[jochensa]

yeah that guy is a piece of work to put it nicely. i mean i had a lump when i went thru puberty from no sauce at all. it went away but i was nervous. glad to hear you are going to tell him where to go. f'd up tho when a woman can go her tits done and tummy tucked, or guy can take viagra/cialis with no thot once or ever. but when a guy takes a cycle to enhance his physique he looked upon as a steroid freak. i tell ya i am ready to move to europe at this point haha..

 

[Dr. JK]

So I went to my wife's plastic surgeon yesterday and told him that I have a lump on my right side. He tells me to take off my shirt and says "how long have you been on steroids?". I said, "I don't know what you're talking about, I'm on HRT, 200mg test cyp/ew" and he laughs at me. Okay, maybe it's a little obvious, but then he goes on to tell me that he wouldn't do anything about it. I told him that I am uncomfortable having a lump in my chest and want it out and biopsied. I also told him that I would like the other gland taken out at the same time and he tells me that he won't do that. This guy is considered the best in the area, but I'm rethinking using him because of his attitude. He was great untill I took my shirt off. My wife was with me and even she was shocked. The question is, is it worth the hassle to use the best or should I move on? It's hard to get a solid recommendation for this type of procedure, because it's done so seldom.

How many gyno surgeries had he performed? That will tell you his experience with it. He might be the best in lipo, boob jobs but not as experienced with gyno.

I had 2 operations 1st one he is a great plastic surgeon but he did not take the time to clean out all the glandular tissue (asshole). Found out that he does not do gyno surgeries a lot, so I was unhappy with the results and had to look for another surgeon. That's when I started asking dics how many gyno ops and how often to make sure they are not "rusty". The 2nd guy cleaned me out compeltely with gland and all glandular tissue. Took him 1.5hrs to do it. A normal gyno suregery is about 45min. Great job he did.

Take your time in selection and see if they have any references you can talk to about their experience and thoughts of the doc.

Good luck man!!!!

 

[jochensa]

so as far as taking out the gland and the tissue, does this mean it wont happen again? what entry point did he use?

thanks

 

[Dr. JK]

so as far as taking out the gland and the tissue, does this mean it wont happen again? what entry point did he use?

thanks

That's correct! Without the gland you can't form gyno. BUT if he does not remove it completely then there is a risk of getting it again.

Both guys used the nipple area as entry point. Amaizingly even after 2 ops I got no visible scars. They were small incisons (1cm around the nipple) You can't tell unless I point out the small hair-line.

Both guys did a great job with incison and from what they told me that is the best to go in. So there is another test question for the gyno surgeon to make sure he know what he is doing..

Also if you got any fat tissue around the nipple (puffy nips) MAKE sure he does lipo in the chest area to remove the fat. Otherwise you will still have puffy nips.
If you just have a swollen gland and no fat, i.e. chest is well defined then you don't need the lipo..

I hope this info helps, cause gyno is one fucking SOB to deal with and the docs don't always do a good/complete job at removing it.

Gyno specialist

 

[drbermant]

That's correct! Without the gland you can't form gyno. BUT if he does not remove it completely then there is a risk of getting it again.

Both guys used the nipple area as entry point. Amaizingly even after 2 ops I got no visible scars. They were small incisons (1cm around the nipple) You can't tell unless I point out the small hair-line.

Both guys did a great job with incison and from what they told me that is the best to go in. So there is another test question for the gyno surgeon to make sure he know what he is doing..

Also if you got any fat tissue around the nipple (puffy nips) MAKE sure he does lipo in the chest area to remove the fat. Otherwise you will still have puffy nips.
If you just have a swollen gland and no fat, i.e. chest is well defined then you don't need the lipo..

I hope this info helps, cause gyno is one fucking SOB to deal with and the docs don't always do a good/complete job at removing it.

Gyno specialist

Gynecomastia Surgery Does Not Prevent Regrowth


I caution each of my patients that surgery does not typically stop male breast growth. If there is a problem with growing breasts, recurrence can happen. Any of these medical problems and or these medications can cause gynecomastia. So, if you want to get worried about regrowth, you could get yourself evaluated for each of these conditions to see if they could be a factor.

Surgery also does not prevent weight gain in the chest. Men tend to put weight on the belly and chest regions. I educate each of my patients that this surgery will not prevent further breast growth. It is like changing/fixing a tire with a nail. Fixing/changing the tire will not prevent you from getting a new nail in that tire.

With all the gynecomastia surgery I have done, it is very rare to have regrowth for patients I have sculpted. One patient (who had surgery on only side by another doctor) came to me with pro hormone induced gynecomastia that only came back on the side that had no surgery. His growth was massive on the one side and none on the other. His surgery by that other doctor had left a massive crater - the skin was adherent against the chest wall with normal fat surrounding the ugly deformity. One side looked like the deformity seen here. The other side was almost a B cup breast so tender that I could barely examine it. As with each patient who presented to me with current breast growth, he was referred for an endocrinology evaluation and stabilization before considering surgery. I do not know if such radical surgery was a factor or not. Even if it did, removing all fat under the skin just gives an unnatural look.

I prefer to target the gland first with my Dynamic Technique. This permits me to remove most of the gland and then sculpt the remainng tissue to minimze contour problems. Any surgery technique, even radical breast mastectomy for male breast cancer can leave gland behind. The problem is that there are fine fingers of gland that dissect between fingers of fat and can extend quite far into the chest.

You can see what I mean by fingers of gland here.

By concentrating on the gland first I am able to minimize the chance of breast regrowth. It is very rare for my patients to have recurrence. With my techniques and red flag before surgery evaluation system, I have only a few patients over the many years I have been doing surgery that I know have regrown. However, gynecomastia surgery does not stop breast regrowth. For patients having breast growth, I have advised for many years that they should get their problem under control before surgery. There are exceptions, such as young men with massive breasts that have not stopped growing. That is why each case needs to be individually evaluated.

Prevention of gynecomastia, when possible, is much better.

Secondary Surgery is often an option for those who had prior surgery. Such issues are better discussed during a consultation with your surgeon or someone who can advise you about your options. We help patients explore such issues during consultations or preliminary remote discussions.

Hope this helps,

Michael Bermant, MD
Learn More About Gynecomastia and Chest Sculpture

 

[Dr. JK]

Gynecomastia Surgery Does Not Prevent Regrowth


I caution each of my patients that surgery does not typically stop male breast growth. If there is a problem with growing breasts, recurrence can happen. Any of these medical problems and or these medications can cause gynecomastia. So, if you want to get worried about regrowth, you could get yourself evaluated for each of these conditions to see if they could be a factor.

Surgery also does not prevent weight gain in the chest. Men tend to put weight on the belly and chest regions. I educate each of my patients that this surgery will not prevent further breast growth. It is like changing/fixing a tire with a nail. Fixing/changing the tire will not prevent you from getting a new nail in that tire.

With all the gynecomastia surgery I have done, it is very rare to have regrowth for patients I have sculpted. One patient (who had surgery on only side by another doctor) came to me with pro hormone induced gynecomastia that only came back on the side that had no surgery. His growth was massive on the one side and none on the other. His surgery by that other doctor had left a massive crater - the skin was adherent against the chest wall with normal fat surrounding the ugly deformity. One side looked like the deformity seen here. The other side was almost a B cup breast so tender that I could barely examine it. As with each patient who presented to me with current breast growth, he was referred for an endocrinology evaluation and stabilization before considering surgery. I do not know if such radical surgery was a factor or not. Even if it did, removing all fat under the skin just gives an unnatural look.

I prefer to target the gland first with my Dynamic Technique. This permits me to remove most of the gland and then sculpt the remainng tissue to minimze contour problems. Any surgery technique, even radical breast mastectomy for male breast cancer can leave gland behind. The problem is that there are fine fingers of gland that dissect between fingers of fat and can extend quite far into the chest.

You can see what I mean by fingers of gland here.

By concentrating on the gland first I am able to minimize the chance of breast regrowth. It is very rare for my patients to have recurrence. With my techniques and red flag before surgery evaluation system, I have only a few patients over the many years I have been doing surgery that I know have regrown. However, gynecomastia surgery does not stop breast regrowth. For patients having breast growth, I have advised for many years that they should get their problem under control before surgery. There are exceptions, such as young men with massive breasts that have not stopped growing. That is why each case needs to be individually evaluated.

Prevention of gynecomastia, when possible, is much better.

Secondary Surgery is often an option for those who had prior surgery. Such issues are better discussed during a consultation with your surgeon or someone who can advise you about your options. We help patients explore such issues during consultations or preliminary remote discussions.

Hope this helps,

Michael Bermant, MD
Learn More About Gynecomastia and Chest Sculpture

If there is no gland you cannot get gyno!! I had mine taken out and never had a problem again regardless what I take, test, deca, tren, HCG, etc..

 

[auto14972]

If there is no gland you cannot get gyno!! I had mine taken out and never had a problem again regardless what I take, test, deca, tren, HCG, etc..

From my understanding they don't fully remove the gland


Also I don't really have any experience with this but any good doctor performing surgery should be able to give you a portfolio of past patients results. Some will be able to put you in contact with past patients so you can ask them. This would probably be a good start.

Good luck