Gyno from prohormones ?

[Fl.BlackBear]

Anyone know if this can happen? I've been taking 1-AD and 19-Nor Andro for about 6 weeks now and about 2 weeks into it my nipples started getting sore. I used a lot of AS about 15 years ago and the soreness seems familiar to what I experienced back then. I don't notice any enlargement at all but this soreness has got me worried.

 

[koen]

It is possible, not directly from the prohormones you took, but when you increase the testosteron in your blood, more test is converted to estrogen, causing the gyno. I have a friend who cannot take prohormones because of this.

Koen

 

[cyberflash]

YEP ... I agree with koen ... too much test can covert to estrogen .... it really depends on your body ...

I am skeptical about 1AD's advertisement... sure it might not convert DIRECTLY .... but when it was raised ur test ... your body will convert the excess test to estrogen .. just another indirect route ...

 

[Mandy3]

has anyone had gyno or symptoms from andro spray?

 

[The Almighty]

People have had gyno symptoms from both the sprays and the orals. It really depends on the person and their predisposition for gyno.

 

[Providian]

Gyno was one of the main side effects listed after some independent group (can't remember who) studied the effectiveness of the prohormones as a muscle builder- I took them for 6 months and didn't gain much muscle -that I still don't attribute to prohormones-but noticed swelling in my chest at times, that I've hardly ever experienced with real AS, so gave the prohormones up for good.

 

[Redneck Punk]

I'm taking the same prohormones, and have noticed that my nipples get a little longer once in a while, but they go back to normal in about an hour.

 

[drdeca2001]

Hey Redneck, stop playing with your nipples and that will stop them from getting longer!!

 

[wrestler69]

if you were to incorporate an estrogen blocker, would prohormones be effective?

i hear everyone dis the hell out of them- im just wondering, because i want to try them without trying the gyno!

 

[George Spellwin]

Here's some good info on preventing estrogen side effects from steroids and steroid precursors.

http://shop.massquantities.com/supplements/114.html

 

[BigAndy69]

I have a friend who is in denial of the full-blown gyno he has because of prohormone use.

 

[Enock]

Damn bigandy that sucks, gyno is bad but when he can't admit he has it thats even worse. Since he won't really do anything about it. I can bet you it is hurting him inside though. He probably wrestles with the idea in his head and it just disgusts him too much to admit it to even himself so he can attempt to fix it.

 

[newyork24]

sorry George but crysine does not work.
Please do research before you post any msg here.
And I am sorry that you sell such products .

Chrysin is a worthless supplement and should never be taken with ando supplements. In fact, a recent study unequivically proved this.

In the International Journal of Sport Nutrition & Exercise Metabolism, the study, "Effects of Anabolic Precursors on Serum Testosterone Concentrations and Adaptations to Resistance Training in Young Men." was put together to see specifically if chrysin or indol-3-Carbinol increased the testosterone elevating effects and/or reduced the aromatization effects of androstenedione.

Using the supplement Andro-6, the study concluded that, " . . . addition of these herbal extracts (chrysin) to androstenedione does not result in increased serum testosterone concentrations, reduce the estrogenic effect of androstenedione, and does not augment the adaptations to resistance training."

As to why all the other supplement companies sell worthless andro concoctions with chrysin in them is simple. They do no research at all. They are "monkey see - monkey do" operations. It works like this; If a company comes out with a stupid supplement supported by no research but spends tons of money marketing the worthless supplement, other "me too" companies will knock the worthless product off and sell it under their own name. It happens all the time. It's the blind leading the blind.

It's pathetic but it's very prevelent in the sports nutrtion industry.

Effects of Anabolic Precursors on Serum Testosterone Concentrations and Adaptations to Resistance Training in Young Men. International Journal of Sport Nutrition & Exercise Metabolism, 10 (3).

 

[BigEasy]

First hand experience tells me that 4-ad spray CAN INDEED cause gyno symptoms. The good part is that you can stop spraying and almost immediately the symptoms go away. Try that with sustenon or other long acting AAS!

BE

 

[johnny iron]

When I had done a cycle of Androsol, I experienced some tingling on my left nipple at the end of the two week cycle. Went away a day or two after I stopped.

 

[Baddogg]

What if you just spray on the legs...will this still cause gyno?


if yes,
then what is a good anti estrogen(legal)

 

[Travbedaman]

What if you just spray on the legs...will this still cause gyno?


if yes,
then what is a good anti estrogen(legal)

It doesn`t matter where you spray it, the product gets into your system one way or another...the best anti estrogen would be Letrozole or Liquidex, both legal.


My personal experience is 4-AD alone does not cause gyno. Fina alone does not give me gyno. Fina plus 4-AD together does give me gyno. It`s hard to say which one is more responsible for it.

 

[Par Deus]

HTF can there be 14 response to the second post and no mention of the fact that neither 1-AD nor 19-Nor raise testosterone levels??? They convert to 1-test and nandrolone, respectively.

BTW, that Andro-6 study study shows that Andro-6 does not do much, nothing more.