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dick4ladies

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in order to start juicing u have to see if u have good genetic.
If u are small guy, skinny, small bones, thin skin - even 7gr of testosterone will not help u out. u just waste your $$$.
the same would be when we would try to make out from small mexican guy MAGIC JOHNSON! that will never work. ok?

u will just fuck up yourself.

and do not start jucining when u have not trained for at least 3 years and do not juice if u are under 195lbs.

Go naturally to 195lbs and than start juicing.

Everything else is bullshit.

I have seen here many guys posting pictures and after 4 cycles they are still under 195lbs.
That is what i am talking about. We can never extend small mexiacn guy to 6'11"
Steroids do not work for everyone!
 
dick4ladies said:
in order to start juicing u have to see if u have good genetic.
If u are small guy, skinny, small bones, thin skin - even 7gr of testosterone will not help u out. u just waste your $$$.
the same would be when we would try to make out from small mexican guy MAGIC JOHNSON! that will never work. ok?

u will just fuck up yourself.

and do not start jucining when u have not trained for at least 3 years and do not juice if u are under 195lbs.

Go naturally to 195lbs and than start juicing.

Everything else is bullshit.

I have seen here many guys posting pictures and after 4 cycles they are still under 195lbs.
That is what i am talking about. We can never extend small mexiacn guy to 6'11"
Steroids do not work for everyone!
ok,no one has said it yet.you are a dumbass
 
Hmm, dont start unless your 195...I started at 185 a few months ago(although i had been as high as 190 natural)...now I am 210 and leaner than ever, 5'8...but I guess my hopes of being magic johnson will never come true. Everyone had to start somewhere, I had been training for 4 years, and I def. have a good frame for bodybuilding/lifting. I hope your like 6'3 300 lbs ripped if your talking like that. I know of a bodybuilder at my gym that is around 5'5 and he is 200 lbs contest shape, but when he started he had to be around 160 or something...I guess he should have never been in the sport(although he is an IFBB pro).
 
where can i buy these "steroids" you speak of, as its been my life long dream to become Magic Johnson and steal his identity. I figure since all I want is to be 6'11", steroids are an excellent option.:rolleyes:
 
Damn what a hostile, yet humorous, group we have here. Everyone in the middle of their test cycle?? :)

Give the poor guy a break, even though his presentation really kind of sucks, his intentions were in the right place.
 
dick4ladies said:
in order to start juicing u have to see if u have good genetic.
If u are small guy, skinny, small bones, thin skin - even 7gr of testosterone will not help u out. u just waste your $$$.
the same would be when we would try to make out from small mexican guy MAGIC JOHNSON! that will never work. ok?

u will just fuck up yourself.

and do not start jucining when u have not trained for at least 3 years and do not juice if u are under 195lbs.

Go naturally to 195lbs and than start juicing.

Everything else is bullshit.

I have seen here many guys posting pictures and after 4 cycles they are still under 195lbs.
That is what i am talking about. We can never extend small mexiacn guy to 6'11"
Steroids do not work for everyone!

oh, nice, so 195lb is the "MAGIC NUMBER HERE", if you dont have that you wont make it..........................

i guess Arnold Sch. and Paul Dillet who both were tall, very lanky, and way under "195lb MAGIC NUMBER"; those 2 men both fall into the genetic garbage catagory................Lue Feriggno, did you see what he looked like when he started juicing?

i know you are trying to help, but there is no way to find out how good your body will react to AS untill you run a few cycles
 
i wish i was smaller so i could listen to you.

HE IS RIGHT GUYS....

I HAVE NEVER SEEN A SHORT GUY THAT IS JACKED...Lee Priest Who?????
 
WTF.......I'm 5'-6" , 12%bf and in my late 30's

Ok...195 natural ...Get REAL

I agree with Huck....Thanks for saving our lives.:laugh2:
 
I think this guys heart was in the right place, but his ideas weren't on the right track completely. The only thing I think is true, are the guys who have done 4 cycles and are still under 200lbs. And I'm not talking about the shorter guys who are 5'4-5'7. I see some people who are 5'10-6'3 who are cycling and can't get past 200. Yet they all claim to be gaining AND keeping 30-40lbs a cycle! Get real.
 
YOU ARE A TOOL

How can I get in touch with you, I could really use a guy like you to help guide me toward my goals.
Would you be interested in being my personal trainer?
I could even arrange to have you picked up from school and brought to my gym?
Please let me know I will be waiting for your reply.
:p
 
C3bodybuilding said:
I think this guys heart was in the right place, but his ideas weren't on the right track completely. The only thing I think is true, are the guys who have done 4 cycles and are still under 200lbs. And I'm not talking about the shorter guys who are 5'4-5'7. I see some people who are 5'10-6'3 who are cycling and can't get past 200. Yet they all claim to be gaining AND keeping 30-40lbs a cycle! Get real.
sorry guys, i don't post here often anymore, but i just wanted to put a few words in about this point. not everyone in this online community (the macrocosm of online juicers) has the goals to be a body builder or possess a physique as such. I have been as high as 226lbs. (although this is immaterial, but in case you felt like rebutting with something of this sort,) but now have cut down to below this magic number and after a small number of cycles, so i suppose i therefore have no right to juice (actually i don't anymore- but this is for a myriad of reasons unrelated to this.) many people here are training, supplementing, and using AAS responsibly towards personal goals of an aesthetic level which they feel is comfortable or for sports purposes. For some people genetics alone do not allow things, but they can be achieved with the usage of gear. It pisses me off to see people ignorantly excluded because their goals are different from yours. i remember several time 2-3 years ago people getting flamed asking what cycles models ran, how to look like brad pitt, etc. Yes sometimes these questions are asked in improper ways, but often there is substance to them. Many models (and actors)cannot achieve their desired physique in the amount of time allotted for a show (performance) without the usage of AAS. Please keep this in mind before uttering such moronic statement. Thanks.

k&z
 
So waht if i was to say that i only weigh 170 pounds, but i am 4'9". Yes, i bet you would say "Damn, thats one ass kickin Umpa-Lumpa." But would you ten try to convinvce me that i shouldnt do steroids b/c im not 195?
 
C3bodybuilding said:
I think this guys heart was in the right place, but his ideas weren't on the right track completely. The only thing I think is true, are the guys who have done 4 cycles and are still under 200lbs. And I'm not talking about the shorter guys who are 5'4-5'7. I see some people who are 5'10-6'3 who are cycling and can't get past 200. Yet they all claim to be gaining AND keeping 30-40lbs a cycle! Get real.

Everyone has different goals bro; what if those 4 cycles were cut cycles, or very mild cycles? ive hit 3 very mild cycles and still under 200lbs; im also 5'9. So its all in relation to you goals, hell i easily could have hit a test/dbol/fina, but i chose not to, for longevity reasons; heath wise and gear wise.
 
you---you-----mean.........i...willl...never be .....like majik....johnson????????????:( :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: RADAR
 
Kaoz, there was nothing moronic about my post. Petty insults are childish. With that in mind, I believe you need to re-read my post. I was talking about the kids who post that they've done 3-4 cycles, and gained 20-30lbs on EACH ONE, and never lost a lb. Yet somehow they are all under 200lbs. It's just foolish bullshit, that gives unrealistic dreams to people who are new to juice.

Also, I think anyone who wants the Brad Pitt look that you describe, certainly doesn't need juice. If they can't get like that natural, then they need to seriously look at their training, and nutrition.

Genetics play a part, indeed they do. But if you have a waist as wide as your shoulders, then no amount of juice will help. People who juice just to get that 'model' look quickly ( fuck working for it! I don't care if it can be done naturally, I want it in 6 weeks!), in my own opinion, are lazy. So, I am sorry if valid points are moronic.
 
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I think the better reason to wait until you've trained for awhile, is so that you know what your doing, you know your going to stick with training for awhile, and you hopefully know how to eat right.

Other than that, I don't see a reason why some skinny kid can't start right off with roids, but honestly I would likewise advice against it, you should learn how to train and gain naturally, all the gear is going to do is make you more a "man" than you already are hormone wise, but if you can't train/eat right then yes, its a waste. I think this is the reason that so many people have done your "4 cycle" example and still look like they barely work out, I've seen it on another board guys that look about like me or slightly smaller, and they've been doing gear through 3 or more cycles, and I wonder WTF is going on.

My genetics are nothing special at all, but if you do things right it does come in time. I think experience is the key, the wisdom you pickup over time, I don't think it has a damn thing to do with needing to be a certain poundage or etc.

FWIW, I haven't done a second cycle yet, soon!
 
Dr. M, with your attitude, I am sure your goals will come to you.

You are one of the few people that seems to understand that you can't jump into this without knowledge of training, and nutrition. That is why a lot of people need to juice to get that 'model look'. They never learned how to train properly, or eat. So they are always searching for that 'quick fix'. I firmly believe the only way to instill those basics, are to stick it out natural for a while. Those type of people need to learn how to train properly, how to gain naturally, how to eat to gain, etc. Otherwise they will be doing 5 cycles a year, just to 'maintain'. Sad really.


Ps. I hate to use the 'model' look as my example. It's just the only come back people gave me, were for people who want to look like 'brad pitt'. I think there is nothing at all wrong with that goal, or that look. But it is a look that you can achieve with good training, and solid nutrition.
 
I got and idea for dick4ladies , change you screen name to CRACK_HEAD_BOB, did you though this all on your own or you got help?
:idea:
 
Silverback says it the best, "hey dickface, shut the fuck up and shot yourself" This guy better just go on Musclur warriors grape fruit stack if he wants to look like Magic Johnson, i think that's the only thing that will work, or maybe the herb-bol/banana peel stack, go get em tiger...thanks for saving me!!!
 
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