GTP and British Dragon

[Bourget]

Planning my next cycle. I want to use whatever will give me the best results with as few sides as possible(ie. pain from injection).

What is your experience/opinion on both? Is one better than the other? If so, why?

 

[Mr.X]

Planning my next cycle. I want to use whatever will give me the best results with as few sides as possible(ie. pain from injection).

What is your experience/opinion on both? Is one better than the other? If so, why?

GTP quality needs work, BD is on the same level. I would suggest you get pharm. grade gear if you can.

 

[satchboogie]

both are shit....

in fact all steroids are bad period!!

 

[Mr.X]

both are shit....

in fact all steroids are bad period!!

LMFAO!

 

[athl4lif]

I have used both with good results. If injection site pain is your biggest concern I would have to wonder why you are doing roids to begin with. It is a needle so a little pain is part of the deal. Obviously human pharma grade is going to me better in quality, if it is not a fake.

 

[fergie]

both are reputable brands...... go with the cheaper one

 

[BIGnR$CH]

The one thing that I would be most concerned with especially right now is the source in which you get the gear. Pain seems minimal to me in comparison to sitting behind bars....pick a reputable supp. first and foremost. Pick a good source that is going to protect you with good quality packaging (this is THE most important thing to me). A good supp. is not going to carry low quality gear. so go with the gear that your trusty supp. carries. The gear all comes from the same place anyway.. LOL!!!

 

[Bourget]

I have used both with good results. If injection site pain is your biggest concern I would have to wonder why you are doing roids to begin with. It is a needle so a little pain is part of the deal. Obviously human pharma grade is going to me better in quality, if it is not a fake.

I've seen posts on this board where people attribute the pain to the brand of gear and not just from the needle.

Did I say I didn't want any pain? No! I realize that pain and soreness are part of the game. I said 'with as few sides as possible'. I didn't know if some have experienced more pain with one than the other.

 

[bbkingpin]

I've never used GTP injectables, only their anavar. It's hard to say whether it was good or bad because you can't be on a cutter/maintenance diet/cycle with anavar and say it works or not, except for the fact you can keep/maintain the strength you have while losing some fat. I know QV anavar worked because I gained about 3 reps on the bench press but I was eating to gain back then. As for BD injectibles, I know the tren depot ("parabolan") works because I've tried it, (I'd like to get the 200mg/ml just to have for future), and I'm taking the oxanabol right now. But for anavar, the effects are usually so mild, you can't really rave about any UG brand because you always wonder if the product is underdosed. So, based on my limited knowledge, I would go with BD but only from a trusted source ... you can verify purported BD sources on BD's website.

 

[Retabolil2]

GTP quality needs work, BD is on the same level. I would suggest you get pharm. grade gear if you can.

I think BD is on the top of GTP qualitywise... did you see how GTP vials look like? no? Try LSP stuff if you like, in my opinion its even better and packaging is amazing, lsp stuff packaged better than norma deca or many other human grade brands. but all in all I agree with Mr. X human grade brands are always better. except maybe bold, tren products, tbol and masteron, there are no human grade analogues...

 

[Mr.X]

I think BD is on the top of GTP qualitywise... did you see how GTP vials look like? no? Try LSP stuff if you like, in my opinion its even better and packaging is amazing, lsp stuff packaged better than norma deca or many other human grade brands. but all in all I agree with Mr. X human grade brands are always better. except maybe bold, tren products, tbol and masteron, there are no human grade analogues...

I've seen the GTP and BD stuff. I wouldn't put too much faith in vial looks as a judgement call for quality. However, it does make a positive statement to have a professional presentation for products.

 

[Retabolil2]

go with the cheaper one

yep!

 

[bbkingpin]

I've seen the GTP and BD stuff. I wouldn't put too much faith in vial looks as a judgement call for quality. However, it does make a positive statement to have a professional presentation for products.

Absolutely! It promotes greater faith in the product when the quality of packaging/presentation is very professional. I really like BD for those reasons, it looks top notch and the quality is good. Syrus quality was what blew me away, but the packaging, though simpler looking labels, was also professional looking. I started freaking out (as SB can attest) when I received gtp ox, it looks very shoddy ... but you can't judge a book by its cover and we know how many crappy movies we've all rented over the years just because the box cover looked good.

 

[Retabolil2]

I've seen the GTP and BD stuff. I wouldn't put too much faith in vial looks as a judgement call for quality. However, it does make a positive statement to have a professional presentation for products.

Sure you`re correct, packaging by itself doesnt mean anything, I`ve seen some damn good looking copies but if UG lab cant afford to buy good packaging equipment and makes capsules instead of tabs then it makes me think its cheapest UG out there! LSP has it all, good packaging and good products. But I wouldnt heistate choosing betwen BD and GTP. BD has great rep and from what Ive seen it is cheaper!

 

[Mr.X]

makes capsules instead or tabs then it makes me think its cheapest UG out there!

you mean instead OF tabs right? I would agree that tabs are a more professional way to go.

 

[bbkingpin]

Sure you`re correct, packaging by itself doesnt mean anything, I`ve seen some damn good looking copies but if UG lab cant afford to buy good packaging equipment and makes capsules instead or tabs then it makes me think its cheapest UG out there! LSP has it all, good packaging and good products. But I wouldnt heistate choosing betwen BD and GTP. BD has great rep and from what Ive seen it is cheaper!

Yeah, really, you'd think you'd get GTP at a discount! But I've also noticed BD alongside human grade brands for the same exact price. But, perhaps, BD is in a better position to demand higher prices ... but same as human grade? (Example: Schering proviron v. BD mesterolone same price per tab, Andropen 275 and Organon sust 250 same price per ml, Teva nolva v. BD nolva same price per tab)

 

[Retabolil2]

you mean instead OF tabs right? I would agree that tabs are a more professional way to go.

yes, it was a typo, my bad. but you got the point!

 

[Retabolil2]

Yeah, really, you'd think you'd get GTP at a discount! But I've also noticed BD alongside human grade brands for the same exact price. But, perhaps, BD is in a better position to demand higher prices ... but same as human grade? (Example: Schering proviron v. BD mesterolone same price per tab, Andropen 275 and Organon sust 250 same price per ml, Teva nolva v. BD nolva same price per tab)

Yes you`re correct. I still dont understand those who prefer Andropen over old good sust and its not first time I`m saying this. as for the price... BD cant compete with pharmaceutical giants like Organon or Schering, they make their own raw materials and make stuff in cheap countries like egypt or pakistan, no surprise karachi sust is cheaper than BD Andropen but still some people prefer to get UG stuff in vials and megadozed tabs instead of 25mg schering provirons. I also dont understand how UG company can demand same price for proviron clone or sustanon clone but many people has vouched for BD gear so I dont ask those questions anymore

 

[BOWTECH]

LSP does have a good product line....I have actually used all 3 brands and with good results. I am one of those guys who love the Andropen, but then again I like all TEST Blows me up nicely

 

[athl4lif]

I've seen posts on this board where people attribute the pain to the brand of gear and not just from the needle.

Did I say I didn't want any pain? No! I realize that pain and soreness are part of the game. I said 'with as few sides as possible'. I didn't know if some have experienced more pain with one than the other.

Must of misunderstood you?

I am just one person, but to answer question I have done different products from both brands in question and I can't say that I noticed any noticible difference in sides.

 

[Bourget]

Very helpful info! Makes buying easier. K to all.

 

[view]

Planning my next cycle. I want to use whatever will give me the best results with as few sides as possible(ie. pain from injection).

What is your experience/opinion on both? Is one better than the other? If so, why?

in this order: human grade, BD, GTP.

 

[flex2win]

Sure you`re correct, packaging by itself doesnt mean anything, I`ve seen some damn good looking copies but if UG lab cant afford to buy good packaging equipment and makes capsules instead of tabs then it makes me think its cheapest UG out there! LSP has it all, good packaging and good products. But I wouldnt heistate choosing betwen BD and GTP. BD has great rep and from what Ive seen it is cheaper!

I have yet to see BD cheaper than GTP, it must depend on the source though..I agree with the labeling for GTP, I had to double check with some people awhile back just to make sure it was legit...

 

[missionpossible]

Yeah, BD definitly looks more professional on their packaging than GTP, GTP's labeling looks like it was done on a home inkjet printer. One thing that I think GTP has going over BD is higher dosage per mg and some of their new blends.

 

[Retabolil2]

One thing that I think GTP has going over BD is higher dosage per mg and some of their new blends.

And higher dosage might be a BIG question to all of us as we have seen some nandrolone tested as bold... I`d love to see new lab tests results as all I`ve seen coming from people who has their vested interests in those lab test results.