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Greg Kovacs at the Arnold...wtf?
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Bulldog_10
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That's not pretty.
I'm sorry, but if he looks gross. I'm going to get into trouble for this, butmost (nearly all) of the pros these days look like shit. They don't even look human with those distended guts and the dark tans. I'm not knocking their work ethic, and they are truly gifted, but there is a point that each and every one of them got to where they should've stopped trying to grow even bigger.
Themachine01
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he is so unproportioned. His arms look small as shit compared to the rest of his body and his waist is huge.
Super Test 2004
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Why was he there anyways, was there a buffet before and after the show.
Themachine01
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where are his forearms? I truly am amazed at how shitty his arms look.
JP@Ironology
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It is only one picture, but with that said wtf? 
I still think Dex looks great, just hope he doesn't play the size game.
I still think Dex looks great, just hope he doesn't play the size game.
BOOEY
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Looks like he injected something in his right lat before he went on.
I agree that most of the pros are getting out of hand nowadays. Dexter in my opinion has the best body out there. Too bad size is such an issue now ... back in the 70's and most of the 80's it was all about symmetry.
I agree that most of the pros are getting out of hand nowadays. Dexter in my opinion has the best body out there. Too bad size is such an issue now ... back in the 70's and most of the 80's it was all about symmetry.
boscoe wilson
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Wow!! I need to go out and get me some muscletech products right now!!!!!
mrflexdiesel
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Definitely not pretty. What's even sadder is that if I'm not mistaken Chad Nichols was working with him to get him ready for this show. Doesn't look good for him either. I would have told him that sorry I just don't think even I'm going to be able to help you. But, I guess you can't pass up the money?
wnt2bBeast
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Damn thats nasty..you think someone in his camp would have the balls to say dude skip the show it aint worth it..fucking sick!!!!
Beachbum1546
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i feel bad for him. he has destroyed his body from too much HGH and steroids. His body structure has actually changed.
jatca69
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If your going to make it your living then you take chances...but you should also be informed and in tune to your body. Obviously he has done too much for too long and has paid the ultimate price. He should be smart about it and get out now. It's not like he can ever form his body back into a winning physique.
c3bodybuilding
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Nelson was right it never got better than the best from 20-50 years ago. Reeves, Arnold, Park, Zane, Lou, Scott, Olivia, even Haney... those are guys you could have looked up to. It's gotten out of hand. I feel bad for Kovacs, and Coleman too. It's just gone too far, and it can never go back. The 'sport' at least on the pro level will probably die out one day soon. It's sad really...
jatca69
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It won't die though...cuz there are too many kids (like we were) who look up to these cartoon looking heros. The pro's today are just as unatainable (for most of us) as the pros were when we we kids...I mean really who here that idolized Arnold ever got as big as him? Same dream...different drugs. Now it's more dangerous for everybody, especially if you are ill informed.
Quadsweeps Sister
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jb241970 said:
I will agree with you there. I was working a booth at the expo then went to the night show, all excited... I was 5 rows from the stage and I have to say the same thing - WTF?!? Alot of the guys had *ucked up physiques, it really was sad. The GH thing is really way out of hand, God when some of them turned around - their guts were HUGE! Dexter Jackson truly looked amazing and I really wished he would have won. Markus Ruhl also looked like he had injected into his Lat and it was all infected looking - he posed to hide it. What a shame. Poor Jay Cutler looked flat - i heard he looked even flatter at the pre-judging.
Well, at least Cirque De'Soleil (spelled correct?) at intermission was really cool - LOL. It was a good time anyway.
c3bodybuilding
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I think it will die out. This trend can't go on forever. There's nowhere else to go. Now it's a 5'11 280 man on stage, it can't get to the point where there are 5'11 350lb guys on stage. These guys are droping like flys. Kidney problems galore along with other health problems. It just can't go on. Coleman will probably kick the bucket within the next 5-10 years.
And I don't think it could ever go back. You can't go from seeing guys like Coleman and Cutler back to guys like Arnold. People don't want to see that anymore. The hard core 'fans' want to see the freaks. It can't go further, it can't go back. It's just depressing when you consider in the 70's and 80's bodybuilding was everywhere. Lee Haney had a workout program! Contests were shown on ESPN on a daily basis. Now you get the Olympia on Pay Per View, and it's held in a friggen' casino. Thats a joke, it's now no better than pro wrestling. Before being a Mr. Universe or Olympia meant something, now it's no better (maybe worse) than being the WWE Champ of the week.
And I don't think it could ever go back. You can't go from seeing guys like Coleman and Cutler back to guys like Arnold. People don't want to see that anymore. The hard core 'fans' want to see the freaks. It can't go further, it can't go back. It's just depressing when you consider in the 70's and 80's bodybuilding was everywhere. Lee Haney had a workout program! Contests were shown on ESPN on a daily basis. Now you get the Olympia on Pay Per View, and it's held in a friggen' casino. Thats a joke, it's now no better than pro wrestling. Before being a Mr. Universe or Olympia meant something, now it's no better (maybe worse) than being the WWE Champ of the week.
glennds
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jb241970 said:
i don't get that ugly fake looking tan thing either. on inside edition last night the did a piece on arnold's new job as editor of flex and M&F where they showed footage of him shaking jay cutler's hand at the Arnold. jay is a handsome guy with an impressive build but his skin was so dark it was ridiculous. do pros really need to cover themselves with ugly brown paint to look more muscular? how much difference in muscularity does it really make?
jatca69
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Does anybody remember the bodybuilding federation that Vince M. started? Lasted one show....bunch of costumes, stage production, fireworks and big bloated bodybuilders. Some guys opted out of their Weider contracts cuz they thought this was gonna be the next big thing. Then they had to go crawling back to weider when it took a big shit. I think pro bodybuilding will always have some legitamacy under weider cause it has history...keep it out of the olympics (we know it doesn't belong there) but bring back the emphasis on asthetics, proportion, symetry and posing...maybe add a strength element to pro shows?
JP@Ironology
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glennds said:
If you are white; even with a natural tan you will still need to enhance a natural tan with a bronzer or paint. I have seen some competitions where a novice comes on stage without a tan or with only a natural tan and the stage lights wash out his cuts...believe it! With that said, there are right and wrong ways to apply bronzers and paints.
c3bodybuilding
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Yep, that was the WBF (world bodybuilding federation). It would have been great for the sport if Vince had planned it out better. He treated it like his wrestling shows, and the fans took that as a disrespect. The guys came out in cheesy costumes, etc. Lot's of top name guys went to the WBF because weider wasn't giving out fair contracts. Vince was giving some guys 350k a year just to do one show a year! All you had to do was show up in shape. When it folded, a lot of the guys went back the IFBB but Weider made them pay. Some had to pay fines, and others were given shitty placements as punishment. One of the WBF's "finest stars", Gary Strydom has said he is making a come back. He said he will not push the hgh and slin, and still have his tiny waist. And get this, he doesn't want to do the Masters O, he wants to do the regular shows. He is fairly young (40 I think), and if he comes in with a small tight waist, and is in top shape, it may just make people see how horrible todays guys look (except for guys like Dexter of course, who are always in shape).
JP@Ironology
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BOOEY said:
The greatest feeling you can get in a gym, or the most satisfying feeling you can get in the gym is... The Pump. Let's say you train your biceps. Blood is rushing into your muscles and that's what we call The Pump. You muscles get a really tight feeling, like your skin is going to explode any minute, and it's really tight -- it's like somebody blowing air into it, into your muscle. It just blows up, and it feels really different. It feels fantastic.-Arnold
c3bodybuilding
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Yeah, you need the pro tan to get on stage. The lighting is much different than it was even 20 years ago. Todays stage lighting will wash you out if you don't get sprayed with the airbrush, or use pro tan.
Yikes! WTF?
bicepts101
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does anybody have any pics of that dude where he looks good?
bicepts101
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bicepts101 said:
bicepts101
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he looks like shit here too, IMO:
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bicepts101
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and then blahhhhhh:
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supertech69
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Although, I must say, I am amazed at the size of the guys like Ronnie & Gunter, here's something nobody will ever be able to say to them.........."Happy 50th B-day......"
Kovacs totally looks like shit. From what I've seen of the pics, it doesn't look like very many competitors even took the Arnold serious. I have seen them all in much better shape. Maybe they're all just aiming for the Mr. O?
Kovacs totally looks like shit. From what I've seen of the pics, it doesn't look like very many competitors even took the Arnold serious. I have seen them all in much better shape. Maybe they're all just aiming for the Mr. O?
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Quadsweep's Sister said:
i wish i could have seen the expression on QS's face! how old is greg anyways? it would be interesting to see what he would look like if he COMPLETELY stopped juicing while still working out and doing cardio. he would probably be a nice looking and NORMAL looking guy. less is more when it comes to AAS. big and buff is good. unnatural is ugly.
c3bodybuilding
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Some of these guys can never go back. They could get off, but the damage is already done. Guys like him, Ronnie, and now even Jay have ruined their bodies. Once you get that chemical look, you can't go back. Imagine if Ronnie ever lives to retire, and gets off. He would look horrible at a somewhat normal bodyweight with that wide and extended gut of his. It's ashame.
That bloated mountain Dorian should have never made Mr. O, neither should have Ronnie. That should have been Flex's era. Levrone should have gotten it a couple of times too. But I guess it drove Flex nuts, and he played the size game, and look what happened there.
Kovacs looks like walking death. It may be too late for his body, but maybe it's not too late for his health. It's not like he's winning anything anyway.
That bloated mountain Dorian should have never made Mr. O, neither should have Ronnie. That should have been Flex's era. Levrone should have gotten it a couple of times too. But I guess it drove Flex nuts, and he played the size game, and look what happened there.
Kovacs looks like walking death. It may be too late for his body, but maybe it's not too late for his health. It's not like he's winning anything anyway.
stuffperson
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His skin & face look 50 years old, easy.
Kal-El
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I watched the Arnold on PPV and that picture only tells the half of it. I couldn't believe he was on stage. I felt bad for him as I am sure he knew he wasn't looking right. He cut his posing routine really short. As Dorian (he was an announcer) said, he just lacks the structure to compete with thge rest of the pros. How and where did he yearn his pro card? Surely he has had better days? 
bigbeforetime
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This is living proof tha tthe sport must return to the golden days of the 70's when the sport was great. Size should not eclipse symmetry and asthetics.
Quadsweep's Sister said:
I was at all four rounds. Jay did look real flat during the afternoon rounds. There was some improvement for the evening rounds.
Kovacs- that torso on those legs I could not believe what I was seeing.
WOW
This is not the look I dreamed about when I was a kid.
No one really wants to look like that it just kinda gradually happens just like really fat people or those BB women who look like men. They gradually change and dont see it like everyone else.
The fat people just stay lazy and it gradually goes from 36 to 40 to 50 in waist.
The guts on these guys are the same. Well its ony a 36 in waist I can handle that.
Well its a 40 inch waist but my shoulders are 2 inches bugger so its ok.
Well its a 44 inch waist but........
They gradually justify each little increment until.. well.. until you have the picture above.
The same can happen to any of us if we dont set limits on ourselves and stick to em.
I will only do 2 cycles a year and will not allow my waist past 36 on or off Juice. I want it 33 but if I bulk and get a little fat I beat myslf up but its ok because if it crept to 36 and 1/2 then a BIG ASS ALARM GOES OFF AND I STRAIGHTEN UP!
Thats what I got to say!
Sartan
This is not the look I dreamed about when I was a kid.
No one really wants to look like that it just kinda gradually happens just like really fat people or those BB women who look like men. They gradually change and dont see it like everyone else.
The fat people just stay lazy and it gradually goes from 36 to 40 to 50 in waist.
The guts on these guys are the same. Well its ony a 36 in waist I can handle that.
Well its a 40 inch waist but my shoulders are 2 inches bugger so its ok.
Well its a 44 inch waist but........
They gradually justify each little increment until.. well.. until you have the picture above.
The same can happen to any of us if we dont set limits on ourselves and stick to em.
I will only do 2 cycles a year and will not allow my waist past 36 on or off Juice. I want it 33 but if I bulk and get a little fat I beat myslf up but its ok because if it crept to 36 and 1/2 then a BIG ASS ALARM GOES OFF AND I STRAIGHTEN UP!
Thats what I got to say!
Sartan
Fingers crossed that we may see Kovacs on the STRONGMAN stage some year...would suit him SO much better
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Themachine01 said:
Yeah, I have to say you hit the brunt of it there.
I've read some stuff in the past year or two that makes me think some of the stuff about gh and gear causing guts to grow is partly a wives' tale, but I don't see how anyone can say that his arms aren't out of proportion.
I hate to see bodybuilding continue to be dominated by short guys and all, but his arms just don't look right in contest shape.
jatca69
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poor greg...F*ck that, his choice, his life, his price too pay. I hate too flame and wouldn't do it to anyone on the board but he put's himself on stage at the arnold looking like he is half dead!!! He is in a sport that is based on judging your physique. He has got to know he looks like hell....right?
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Nighthawkk
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He and Palumbo should compete in an ugliness contest
bicepts101
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i wanna see some more pics from the arnold of him
Snarling Force
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Wow, I don't know what to say... I'm shocked at what I see. Its like a horror movie or a bad dream what has happened to this poor SOB. Does anyone know his exact age? Also, what was his age in the pics of his prime? If he continues the way he is now, how long do you all give him?
Snarling Force
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Ok bros... Here are some more pics from the Arnold 2004 that further add to the horror show that is Greg Kovacs. OMG, its just completely digusting...
Did he actually compete NUDE?
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JATCA69 said:
LMFAO!!!!
FlexManning
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Snarling Force said:
I don't know his age, (I think he's in his 30s though), but he definitely will not live to a very old age at this rate. It's hard enough for anyone very much over 200 pounds to reach their 70s, but for a guy that supposedly gets up to 400 pounds in the offseason and lives a hardcore competitive BB lifestyle, geez. In his case I might make an exception and recommend that he take up jogging instead of lifting.
FlexManning said:
He's 337 in these so 400 is probably about right.
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NJjuice22 said:
oh lord, what is the protruding off the right side of his obliques?? btw..he has the ass of an 120yr old asian man.
That pic is just w-r-o-n-g.
Let me just describe Greg at this point as "rather unfortunate looking".
I respect that the guy's one big, strong bodybuilder but he just does not have a single aesthetic bodypart to speak of. No bodybuilder places at a contest without at least one spectacular part. Wheeler's shoulders and high stacked abs, Ronnie's biceps and several other parts, Dorian's back and picturesque calves, Cutler's thighs. It's not just about the size of their parts, they have some parts you can actually feature on a poster or in a shoot. But Kovaks just does not have anything to hang his hat on.
jatca69
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That pic is just w-r-o-n-g.
Let me just describe Greg at this point as "rather unfortunate looking".
I respect that the guy's one big, strong bodybuilder but he just does not have a single aesthetic bodypart to speak of. No bodybuilder places at a contest without at least one spectacular part. Wheeler's shoulders and high stacked abs, Ronnie's biceps and several other parts, Dorian's back and picturesque calves, Cutler's thighs. It's not just about the size of their parts, they have some parts you can actually feature on a poster or in a shoot. But Kovaks just does not have anything to hang his hat on.
nothing to hang his hat on....oh that's what he is lookin for in that pic. LMFAO.
Let me just describe Greg at this point as "rather unfortunate looking".
I respect that the guy's one big, strong bodybuilder but he just does not have a single aesthetic bodypart to speak of. No bodybuilder places at a contest without at least one spectacular part. Wheeler's shoulders and high stacked abs, Ronnie's biceps and several other parts, Dorian's back and picturesque calves, Cutler's thighs. It's not just about the size of their parts, they have some parts you can actually feature on a poster or in a shoot. But Kovaks just does not have anything to hang his hat on.
nothing to hang his hat on....oh that's what he is lookin for in that pic. LMFAO.
bigp3
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okay this is all I have to say. Yes he does look like shit in those pics, but how many of you have ever set foot on a pro stage. This guy can't help he does not have the genes to be at the top. I don't doubt that he works just as hard as anyone else and I think we should give him props for that.
JP@Ironology
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Snarling Force said:Ok bros... Here are some more pics from the Arnold 2004 that further add to the horror show that is Greg Kovacs. OMG, its just completely digusting...
No more pictures, please, I beg of you have mercy on us..I was not ready for these!
jatca69
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No I would give him props if he had some sense about realizing he doesn't have the genetics or semetry to be succsesful. Instead he kept pumping more and more hgh in his body, morphed his physique to grotesque proportions and then has the gaul to allow someone to take a picture of his ugly naked butt!!!
bicepts101
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i dont know who looks stupider, greg kovacs or that synthol moron
he looks like shit. an obsolute piece of dog shit.
he looks like shit. an obsolute piece of dog shit.
I remember years ago when I lived in columbus, OH...I was in the mall there on a packed saturday. A top Pro (who will go unnamed) was walking thru the mall with his gf/wife whoever. You could hear and see everyone around him pointing and whispering shit like "look at the roid monkey" and "coughSteroidscough*, heckling him....he was waddling thru the mall, and I realized: HE COULDN'T DO SHIT to 99% of the 140 lb punks who were heckling him? Why? Hell the guy couldn't barely walk without huffing and puffing! he couldn't defend himself if his life depended on it!
It was like seeing a circus freak being paraded thru the mall. People didn't look at him like a real human, just like a sideshow retard. I felt bad for the guy, because I know how much work he put into training.
It was at that point that I realized that you CAN take building muscle too far to the point where you look STUPID.
I'll bet the day will come where some politician will demand bodybuilding be drug tested. I kinda hate to say this...but lets hope that the sport can regulate itself and go back to reasonable physiques before GWB's little do-gooders step in and regulate the entire sport.
It was like seeing a circus freak being paraded thru the mall. People didn't look at him like a real human, just like a sideshow retard. I felt bad for the guy, because I know how much work he put into training.
It was at that point that I realized that you CAN take building muscle too far to the point where you look STUPID.
I'll bet the day will come where some politician will demand bodybuilding be drug tested. I kinda hate to say this...but lets hope that the sport can regulate itself and go back to reasonable physiques before GWB's little do-gooders step in and regulate the entire sport.
jatca69
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Might as well name names...it's not like he (whoever he may be) could kick your ass. By the way good point on self regulation, but it's like this...you've been living in a 3000 square foot house for years even though the rest of the neighborhood is full of 1000 sq.ft. houses, are you going, all of a sudden, to tear down 2000 sq. ft. of your house so that you conform to the rest of the neighborhood? No it's your house and you can have it as big as you want. That is until the city (g.w.b. and dogooders) forces you to conform.
bicepts101
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argent said:
i know, what he gonna do? come looking for rodneyabs?
Dial_tone said:
No, he should check himself into a clinic and dry out for a while and see if he is still capable of producing test on his own.
He has lived the dream for a while, but now its time to move on to new things. Maybe start up some supplement company or open a gym franchise. Despite my comments on his physique, thats because he was competing, I would love to see the guy around the gym.
Or even consider an entirely different line of work. But he has to realize that something has got to change.
Im still trying to find out why and how he got an invitatiom to the arnold classic.Some of you guys think he deserves his props, but really , think about it . Would you take a beaten-up rusty-fendered piece of shit to a nationally recognized car show?Hell no.It would be almost disrespectful to the other contestants.As i see it , he has some options though.He can retire and start his own franchise, or start giving lectures on the side effects of too much hgh.Either way, stay off the stage, Kovie!
bicepts101
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BOOEY said:
why? i thought that was the perfect way to put it bro. fuck him, who cares
