Going to try recovery

[VitaminK]

So i have a bunch of HCG and Clomid and i have a bottle of HCGenerate as well..

Ive been cycling for a while now. i come off for short periods and run longer periods but i want to try to do a recovery however i want to maintain as much mass as possible.

I was told this can be done but correct me if im wrong.

Could HCG be used by cruising with it? I was going to front load HCG for the 1st week @ 1500-2000iu. And then run 500iu a week for several weeks after, then drop it and use clomid with HCGenerate. And maybe run clomid @ 50mg ed for a few weeks.

All in all, i was originally going to just run HCG for a cruise. Ive heard people doing this and maintaining everything if not all gains. Was thinking about a HCG, Slin, Clomid PCT.

 

[zwhit]

I think your plan looks good. I'd pick up unleashed and another test booster to run after the hcgenerate if its not back in stock. I like phytoserm-347 a lot.

If you want full recovery you're gonna have to drop the hcg at some point bro. I'd run it for 3-4 weeks. Oh, and pick up some aromasin. The hcg can aromatize.

IMO, the most important thing is to give it time. You can only do so much before you have to let your body take over.

 

[lartinos]

I've never heard of people using HCG to cruise on. It is suppressive if taken for too long anyway. No point in taking clomid while you are running HCG.
You are better off taking HCG once in awhile while on cycle and not coming off. This can still give you hormone flucuations and cause acne though.

 

[VitaminK]

I've never heard of people using HCG to cruise on. It is suppressive if taken for too long anyway. No point in taking clomid while you are running HCG.
You are better off taking HCG once in awhile while on cycle and not coming off. This can still give you hormone flucuations and cause acne though.

I noticed this.. I took a shot of HCG and it kinda made my hair shed a bit. Stopped after 2-3 days tho. So wasnt too worried. So im better off cruising at test then huh.

 

[zwhit]

Not if u want to RECOVER

 

[zwhit]

Not if u want to RECOVER

 

[Nelson Montana]

Running HCG as a cruise is a terrible idea. You're just substituting on drug for another. HCG doesn't help recovery, it just gives a kick start to it. Stay on for too long and you'll no longer react to it.

Also, HCG is best when use while ON cycle to maintain LH production. Afterward, you should use UNLEASHED, POST CYCLE, Forma and then BRIDGE.

And you're thing about using insulin? Don't.

 

[VitaminK]

Thanks guys, im willing to take advice when given. It was just a question. Ill run HCG for 2 weeks while on prop, i blast it. And then come off hit Torem (i like it better) and run that BRIDGE. How does that work btw? Is it useful for maintaining muscle?

 

[zwhit]

Honestly bro you should expect to lose some size coming off. But with the right supplements it can be minimal. Just depends if u want recovery or to stay on and keep gaining. Bridge is a test booster btw.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Honestly bro you should expect to lose some size coming off. But with the right supplements it can be minimal. Just depends if u want recovery or to stay on and keep gaining. Bridge is a test booster btw.

A T booster, but also a blood volumizer -- something no other supplement does.

 

[VitaminK]

Well id like to come off, but ill tell you what. the last time i came off cycle my hair shed alot. It seems when im ON, i dont shed any hair...

Im also using a TRT dose test (200mg) a week. So hairloss with that dose shouldnt really be a problem dont you guys agree?

I just feel my sex drive fading a bit. A buddy of mine told me that throwing in some clomid during cycle would help increase the sex drive. I have a bottle of it i might try that. Need my loads thicker for sure lol.

 

[zwhit]

A T booster, but also a blood volumizer -- something no other supplement does.

Didn't know about the blood volumizer...good to know.

 

[VitaminK]

Ok so this is what i want to do for PCT.

I already hit my HCG 1500iu and my balls have dropped, most def fuller and loads are better etc.

Took last shot of prop 2 days ago. So, how does this look?

1 shot 100mcg of GnRH (triptorelin)
Clomid 100/50/50/50/50/50 (6 weeks due to long cycle)
Ostarine / MK-2866- 12.5mg a day to help maintain LBM.

Was going to use GHRP-6 but idk about that.

What do you guys think? Also how is that product Need2Slin? Can that be used during PCT as well?

 

[VitaminK]

I wouldn't use anything else in conjunction with triptorelin, I don't think there is a need for it. The allure of the compound was that a full recovery could be made with a SINGLE 100mcg shot and nothing else. You're in a position to confirm this for the rest of the community if you decide to try it.

If you're going to give the triptorelin a go, I would wait a little longer to be 100% sure that all excess androgens have cleared, maybe another week or two depending on what you've been cycling.

Take the triptorelin shot and then begin to pay close attention to things like mood, energy, etc. After 3-4 weeks, get some labwork done to see if it was a success (i.e., your T is optimal and LH/FSH are reasonable).

If this drug is so good why hasnt anyone used it?

GnRH im getting comes in a 2000mcg bottle, so only take 100mcg ONCE thats it?

Bacteriostatic Water?

 

[VitaminK]

Yeah, one shot of 100mcg. BA water is fine.

Triptorelin is used for other things. It is used to SHUT DOWN testosterone production for men with cancer. This is achieved by CONSTANT dosing, flooding the pituitary and making it unresponsive to GnRH signaling by exhausting it.

It was recently discovered to have a positive effect on the HPTA when a single dose is used. When men use it to stop testosterone production one of the early side effects is an initial "surge" of testosterone (this is what we're after from a single shot).

The medical study that described a successful protocol for HPTA recovery came out in 2010.

I've seen people ask about the drug but it hasn't really been easy to obtain until recently. Still though, as far as I know no one has really tried it except the other doctor that reported a success and this was just last month.

Well id like to run something to maintain my gains, like i said i was on for a while.

I want to by this Need2Slin, it sounds promising and people seem to be getting good results.

Hows this for a PCT then.

Clomid 100/50/50/50
GnRH- 100mcg (ONCE)
GHRP-6 500mcg a day
Need2Slin 2 caps every meal.

I want to stay off cycle for a while. I only used prop and HCG, took a prop shot yesterday and 500iu of HCG, the boys are dropping.

Started 100mg of clomid today. I ordered 25mg of GHRP-6 and was gonna run it at 500-600mcg a day, as i hear this can maintain muscle gains.

So i figure why not run this Need2Slin with it? Insulins is very anti-catabolic which means its useful for PCT ovbiously, either that or ill use REAL slin. Ive hear of people using slin during PCT and maintaining all gains. And i read alot of positive reviews on Need2Slin.

 

[RikUFC]

As someone who has screwed up PCT before.... this is some great info, Thanks!

 

[Nelson Montana]

Well id like to run something to maintain my gains, like i said i was on for a while.

I want to by this Need2Slin, it sounds promising and people seem to be getting good results.

Hows this for a PCT then.

Clomid 100/50/50/50
GnRH- 100mcg (ONCE)
GHRP-6 500mcg a day
Need2Slin 2 caps every meal.

I want to stay off cycle for a while. I only used prop and HCG, took a prop shot yesterday and 500iu of HCG, the boys are dropping.

Started 100mg of clomid today. I ordered 25mg of GHRP-6 and was gonna run it at 500-600mcg a day, as i hear this can maintain muscle gains.

So i figure why not run this Need2Slin with it? Insulins is very anti-catabolic which means its useful for PCT ovbiously, either that or ill use REAL slin. Ive hear of people using slin during PCT and maintaining all gains. And i read alot of positive reviews on Need2Slin.

N2slin and GH aren't really PCT products. Personally I hate Clomid, but at least it's used for that purpose.

Look into HMG, UNLEASHED, Formastanazol, POST CYCLE and BRIDGE. THAT's what you want for PCT.

 

[VitaminK]

N2slin and GH aren't really PCT products. Personally I hate Clomid, but at least it's used for that purpose.

Look into HMG, UNLEASHED, Formastanazol, POST CYCLE and BRIDGE. THAT's what you want for PCT.

even for a long ride of AAS, bridge would help out?

 

[zwhit]

It won't compare to being on say 300+ mgs/week of test but it will help. IMO, intense training and the right diet is the biggest thing to maintain gains.

If you've never came off or only for short periods, be prepared for some depression, little to no sex drive, and a drop in gym performance. I had all these after a 16 week test/EQ/tbol cycle. Even used hcg while on and everything u can think of for pct. No more 16 seekers for me.

Take all these guys good advice and you'll recover fine given time.

 

[zwhit]

Goddamn phone double posts every time