girlfriend is pregnant

[freakazoid]

well i have been saveing up for my next cycle,but it looks like i will be paying for an abortion instead.i assumed all the anabolics i have been on would make me sterille.even after all the threads i have read saying there is still a chance my boys could swim,i assumed otherwise.so everyone steroids WILL NOT make you sterille,pay the few dollors for a box of rubbers.

 

[Japanese machine]

sorry to hear that bro; RU486 isnt that pricey is it? you have ways to the back alleys right?

take care man.

 

[freakazoid]

No offense bro but I am pro-life so I have no sympathy. I guess its my republican roots.

i dont want or need sympathy,just dont want a bro making a stupid mistake like me.live and learn i guess

 

[big e 75]

No offense bro but I am pro-life so I have no sympathy. I guess its my republican roots.

I second that. In five years you will never understand why you even considered it. Good luck.

 

[Japanese machine]

Easy guys, im sure this aint easy for freak either; keep in mind that the GF has a big say in this as well. Maybe he is just trying to support her decision?

either way, Good luck.

 

[boss]

i think long term use does affect sperm count. fuck im trying to get my g/f pregnant and no luck so far.

 

[Xtreme2001]

Easy guys, im sure this aint easy for freak either; keep in mind that the GF has a big say in this as well. Maybe he is just trying to support her decision?

either way, Good luck.

I'll agree to that.

Not everyone is the same.

Good luck with it

 

[freakazoid]

I second that. In five years you will never understand why you even considered it. Good luck.

i already have a 5 yr old little girl,being a father to her is great ,she means everything to me.i dont really like the idea of abortion but concitering the possibility of birth defects from all the roids we dont want to take the chance.

 

[Japanese machine]

i already have a 5 yr old little girl,being a father to her is great ,she means everything to me.i dont really like the idea of abortion but concitering the possibility of birth defects from all the roids we dont want to take the chance.

steroids and birth defect?....EEEK! do you have a link with some info? this scares me!

 

[freakazoid]

steroids and birth defect?....EEEK! do you have a link with some info? this scares me! [/QUOTE no i dont have a link but i have a close friend that is my age 28,he and his wife had a little girl about 4 yrs ago and she was deformed,not sure what they called her condition but i know it was hell for them.he was post cycle when she became pregnant.it may or may not have been from roids but i dont want to have to look at a deformed infant and think i could be responsible for it.

 

[boss]

Well use of AAS's do change your DNA

other than gh why would it change dna? do you have anything to back this up?

 

[freakazoid]

My bad bro, I wasn't attacking you just voicing my .02

good luck to you!

no prob bro,i am just want people to be a little more responsible than i was,and not think with the wrong head.

 

[ZKaudio]

Do what you gotta do man. DO NOT have a child if you are not going to be able to give up things in your life for its benefit. I am VERY pro choice and have seen too many fucked up kids have babies that never get a chance.

 

[boss]

Steroids Do NOT change your dna. Deformities related to steroid use? Try again, bro. The steroid molecule is just an intercellular messenger. It delivers a signal, and that is it.

ahhhhhhhh thank you young grasshopper........i agree.

 

[boss]

Do what you gotta do man. DO NOT have a child if you are not going to be able to give up things in your life for its benefit. I am VERY pro choice and have seen too many fucked up kids have babies that never get a chance.

again i agree for what its worth

 

[PURE EXTRACT]

well i have been saveing up for my next cycle,but it looks like i will be paying for an abortion instead.i assumed all the anabolics i have been on would make me sterille.even after all the threads i have read saying there is still a chance my boys could swim,i assumed otherwise.so everyone steroids WILL NOT make you sterille,pay the few dollors for a box of rubbers.

touchy subject. Make sure you want the guilt of killing a baby on your shoulders. Make sure the mother knows as well. I will never understand...why not just put the baby up for adoption.
Your gf should have been on the pill. It's so cheap bro. How old are you? How old is the mom? well would-have-been-mom?

 

[Baxter]

Why don't you give it up for adoption?

 

[scout420]

That sucks dude.Next time pull that shit out.

 

[freakazoid]

Re: Re: girlfriend is pregnant

touchy subject. Make sure you want the guilt of killing a baby on your shoulders. Make sure the mother knows as well. I will never understand...why not just put the baby up for adoption.
Your gf should have been on the pill. It's so cheap bro. How old are you? How old is the mom? well would-have-been-mom?

i am 28 she is 26,we both have children i have a 5yr old girl she has a 5 yr old boy,actually she had the pills but had to wait untill the end of her menstral cycle to start taking them,but it was to late.she started having really bad cramps and went to the e.r and when they asked her if there was a chance she was pregnant she said no because i was on steroids,well they laughed and when they did blood work she tested positive for pregnancy.with both of us thinking there was no way she was pregnant we had been partying on weekends,drinking,smoking a little pot,and a few pain pills here and there.why take a chance on giving birth to a baby that could have birth defects.to me there would be more guilt trying to bring a child with defects into this world than having an abortion.that may sound selfish to some but i have a friend my age that is going through that shit right now,not knowing from one day to the next wether or not his child is going to live.thats guilt i would rather not have to live with.sure there is the chance it would be fine but thats not a chance we are willing to take.

 

[boss]

Re: Re: Re: girlfriend is pregnant

i am 28 she is 26,we both have children i have a 5yr old girl she has a 5 yr old boy,actually she had the pills but had to wait untill the end of her menstral cycle to start taking them,but it was to late.she started having really bad cramps and went to the e.r and when they asked her if there was a chance she was pregnant she said no because i was on steroids,well they laughed and when they did blood work she tested positive for pregnancy.with both of us thinking there was no way she was pregnant we had been partying on weekends,drinking,smoking a little pot,and a few pain pills here and there.why take a chance on giving birth to a baby that could have birth defects.to me there would be more guilt trying to bring a child with defects into this world than having an abortion.that may sound selfish to some but i have a friend my age that is going through that shit right now,not knowing from one day to the next wether or not his child is going to live.thats guilt i would rather not have to live with.sure there is the chance it would be fine but thats not a chance we are willing to take.

i was feeling bad for you bro, but now that i know that you knew it.........why wouldnt of listened?

 

[71olds442]

STEROIDS DO NOT CAUSE BIRTH DEFECTS!!! I REPEAT STEROIDS DO NOT CAUSE BIRTH DEFECTS. GH wouldnt change DNA!! where do you guys get this INFO??? AS may lower sperm count, but it does not alter the chromosomes inside!!! this has NOTHING to do with your friends child being deformed! this is why people need to do research before doing AS... you have so much fucked up info and its gonna cause serious problems! it already has caused problems! start reading into this more!!!!

 

[freakazoid]

Re: Re: Re: Re: girlfriend is pregnant

i was feeling bad for you bro, but now that i know that you knew it.........why wouldnt of listened?

we didnt know she was pregnant untill yesterday,and both thought i would be sterelle.if we would have known she surely would not have been partying on weekends,that was my whole purpose of this post.steroids will not make you sterelle,i know it is verry irresponsible,planned pregnancy would be a different story.

 

[boss]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: girlfriend is pregnant

we didnt know she was pregnant untill yesterday,and both thought i would be sterelle.if we would have known she surely would not have been partying on weekends,that was my whole purpose of this post.steroids will not make you sterelle,i know it is verry irresponsible,planned pregnancy would be a different story.

sorry i thought you knew!!!!.....i think with my past i am but who knows, all i know is that for the past 4 months i am trying but no luck yet.

 

[freakazoid]

STEROIDS DO NOT CAUSE BIRTH DEFECTS!!! I REPEAT STEROIDS DO NOT CAUSE BIRTH DEFECTS. GH wouldnt change DNA!! where do you guys get this INFO??? AS may lower sperm count, but it does not alter the chromosomes inside!!! this has NOTHING to do with your friends child being deformed! this is why people need to do research before doing AS... you have so much fucked up info and its gonna cause serious problems! it already has caused problems! start reading into this more!!!!

mabe steroids dont but alchol,pot,pain pills do.you have to realise that we both thought that i was sterelle at the time.where is the link that says steroids do not cause birth defects,not flameing but i would like more info on this subject.

 

[freakazoid]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: girlfriend is pregnant

sorry i thought you knew!!!!.....i think with my past i am but who knows, all i know is that for the past 4 months i am trying but no luck yet.

good luck to you bro,its messed up people try to have kids with no luck and some are shooting out like crazy.keep trying

 

[Otis2]

The sad part is that an innocent baby has to pay the price for your selfishness and fucking stupidity. Where the hell did you get the idea that steroids make you sterile? You put shit into your body and have no fucking clue as to what happens afterwards. Good reason to keep them outlawed.

 

[71olds442]

how could anabolic steroids cause a birth defect? explain why you think this.. you need to alter genetic codes or have something mess up the chromosomes.. synthetic testosterone wont do this. downs syndrome for example is caused by an extra chromosome (47 instead of 46) test could not do this. it takes a LOT to alter genes. radiation can, but it does not get passed down the line.. also, why are you drinkin, smoking, and taking pain pills while you are on a cycle?

 

[PURE EXTRACT]

Re: Re: Re: girlfriend is pregnant

i am 28 she is 26,we both have children i have a 5yr old girl she has a 5 yr old boy,actually she had the pills but had to wait untill the end of her menstral cycle to start taking them,but it was to late.she started having really bad cramps and went to the e.r and when they asked her if there was a chance she was pregnant she said no because i was on steroids,well they laughed and when they did blood work she tested positive for pregnancy.with both of us thinking there was no way she was pregnant we had been partying on weekends,drinking,smoking a little pot,and a few pain pills here and there.why take a chance on giving birth to a baby that could have birth defects.to me there would be more guilt trying to bring a child with defects into this world than having an abortion.that may sound selfish to some but i have a friend my age that is going through that shit right now,not knowing from one day to the next wether or not his child is going to live.thats guilt i would rather not have to live with.sure there is the chance it would be fine but thats not a chance we are willing to take.

Well, bro. I'm really sorry that you're in this situation. I would never want to be in your spot. All I can say is best of luck to both of you and be blessed.

 

[freakazoid]

The sad part is that an innocent baby has to pay the price for your selfishness and fucking stupidity. Where the hell did you get the idea that steroids make you sterile? You put shit into your body and have no fucking clue as to what happens afterwards. Good reason to keep them outlawed.

well i didnt mean to piss anyone off but i guess i did.i have been doing roids for a long time and know the sides.do a search and you will see there are others who thought steroids make you sterelle,yes it was stupid and therefore dont need a rude asshole trying to flame me over it.you are one to talk about not knowing the sides of a.s with your "stay on come off" post where your liver numbers are high and your in the middle of a fina cycle and ask if roids caused this.apparently you dont know all the sides.good reason to outlaw them.i didnt post this thread to take heat but mabe someone might learn from my mistake.

 

[freakazoid]

how could anabolic steroids cause a birth defect? explain why you think this.. you need to alter genetic codes or have something mess up the chromosomes.. synthetic testosterone wont do this. downs syndrome for example is caused by an extra chromosome (47 instead of 46) test could not do this. it takes a LOT to alter genes. radiation can, but it does not get passed down the line.. also, why are you drinkin, smoking, and taking pain pills while you are on a cycle?

i am not a dr. i assume something that can make you grow tits,enlarge organs,ect. you put substances into your body and it gets into your bloodstream.i am sorry if i gave anyone false information.these are just assumptions and have nothing to back it up, nor have i read anything to say that it doesnt.as far as pain pills i had surgery 3 months ago and had a titanium cage put between c-4 c-5 where there was a pinched nerve.i have been on lortab 10-500 for awhile now and attend a pain management clinic every month.as far as pot/drinking i do that on occasion about everyother weekend, i will have a few shots of vodka and if a friend has pot i might take a hit.i dont buy the shit.idont think it has interfeared with my training/diet in anyway.i am 6-1'' 235 lb @ 12% bodyfat pretty good concitering 6 months ago i was sitting on my ass on short term dissibility awaiting surgery

 

[strength]

thats just

again i agree for what its worth

fucking ignorant, what if your parents said that.

god i hate liberals

 

[BigGuns2]

Good luck to you bro. I hope people will learn from your experience. You can still get a girl pregnant while on the juice.

 

[McBane]

Re: thats just

fucking ignorant, what if your parents said that.

god i hate liberals

Who is ignorant? You are saying you hate an entire group of people.

 

[boss]

Re: thats just

fucking ignorant, what if your parents said that.

god i hate liberals

you do and say what you want and i will do the same on this issue. oh yea........blow me!!!

 

[wesdog]

i'm probably gonna get the crap flamed out of me for saying this, but all i hear is excuses. since you found out that steroids don't cause birth defects, then it turned into the pot, pain meds, alcahol that cause them. bro, take responsibility and stop offering excuses, just say you don't want the baby, cause if you wanted it, you would tell her to have it no matter what is wrong with it. i always thought that love for kids was unconditional, i guess things have changed recently.

 

[Sassy69]

For your reference:

From Anabolics 2000, page 13, Section on Steriod Side Defects -

Birth Defects:
Anabolic/androgenic steroids can have a very pronounced impact on the development of an unborn fetus. Adrenal Genital Syndrome in particular is a very disturbing occurrence, in which a female fetus can develop male-like reproductive organs. Women who are, or plan to become pregnant soon, should never consider the use of anabolic steroids. it would also be the best advice to stay away from these drugs completely for a number of months prior to attempting the conception of a child, so as to ensure the mother has a normal hormonal chemistry. Although anabolic/androgenic steroids can reduce sperm count and male fertility, they are not linked to birth defects when taken by someone fathering a child.

Sorry to hear you are in this predicament. It is always sad. I wish you the best in whatever you decide.

 

[robsatx]

Get a chance?

Do what you gotta do man. DO NOT have a child if you are not going to be able to give up things in your life for its benefit. I am VERY pro choice and have seen too many fucked up kids have babies that never get a chance.

I do not understand your statment on never get a chance? If the kid is never born - how does he/she have a chance?

I have some friends that have been trying to adopt. They can not find any babies to adopt.

Some Questions:

Who are we to keep someone from being happy or sad?
Born or unborn?
We are so spoiled in our great country that we think if we have to give anything up, we are losing.

Open your eyes and see what other countries have and don't have. I hate this argument, because every kid here in the USA - has a great chance to make a life for themselves. Our worst conditions here are far better than many countires best conditions. So I do not want to hear the bullshit about not being able to "give them everything". That is one lame ass excuse. I used to be prochoice until I learned the truth about babies. As early as six weeks they have quite a bit of development. My son was born early and the doctors hinted abortion. I said no way!! What a great choice we made. He is doing great. He started school on time and his now in the top 10% of his class.

Wake up! It is not a blob, It is a living baby!

 

[Spaz66669]

hey

i think the important thing to realize the fact the if the baby does come out with a birth defect how much harder would it be on that child growing up constantly thinking that " im different " eventually the kid will grow mentally disturbed possibly with an inferioirity complex get made fun of in school, get pissed, get a gun, go back to school , and cap off your kids.

im not saying just because this moron had an " oops " he should take the easy road out. whether how hard it is to make the call
its still the wrong road. u made your bed u should lsy in it.

besides why would u believe mythes as such is your fault not that of the baby's so consider it bro

 

[robsatx]

Some info at 11 weeks!

PREBORN - 11 WEEKS AFTER CONCEPTION
HEART IS BEATING (SINCE 18-25 DAYS)
BRAIN WAVES HAVE BEEN RECORDED AT 40 DAYS
THE BABY SQUINTS, SWALLOWS, AND CAN MAKE A FIST
THE BABY HAS FINGERPRINTS AND CAN KICK
THE BABY IS SENSITIVE TO HEAT, TOUCH, LIGHT AND NOISE
THE BABY SUCKS HIS OR HER THUMB
ALL BODY SYSTEMS ARE WORKING
THE BABY WEIGHS ABOUT 1 OUNCE AND IS 2 1/2 TO 3 INCHES LONG
THE BABY COULD FIT COMFORTABLY IN THE PALM OF YOUR HAND


http://www.abortioncams.com/
scroll down to the picture . . . This will make you think twice.

 

[freakazoid]

well after a long talk tonight we have decided to have the baby.i started this post just to try to educate thoese who may think steroids make you sterelle.we had made our minds up to abort the baby.but you guys made us realise the importance of life,and to face our responsibilitys.we are going to give it up for adoption,we feel we are at a point in our lives where we could not care for an infant adiquately. thank you guys for your input on this matter.you all helped save a life.

 

[71olds442]

nice work. guess it was a good idea to post that then huh? im sure the kid will thank you!

 

[Bulldog_10]

Anyone who is against choice can suck my dick...It may sound ignorant, and you can flame me all you want. But if you were in the situation you'd want a say in the matter.

As for you freak, that is a HUGE decision...think this over before you finalize it. Good luck with whatever you decide.

 

[71olds442]

this had nothing to do with pro-choice or pro-life.. it had to do with NOT knowing the facts and getting rid of a baby just because he thought it might be deformed.. if he knew that wasnt possible the post wouldnt have been made

 

[Bulldog_10]

this had nothing to do with pro-choice or pro-life.. it had to do with NOT knowing the facts and getting rid of a baby just because he thought it might be deformed.. if he knew that wasnt possible the post wouldnt have been made

I know that's not what the thread was about, but I saw alot of posts pertaining to it. And I doubt if that was the only reason for making the decision to have an abortion...

 

[McBane]

I respect your choice freak but didn't you say you and your girl were partying (i.e. drinking, smoking weed, pain pills), aren't you worried this may effect the baby? Maybe talk to a doc?

 

[Q Modo]

I respect your choice freak but didn't you say you and your girl were partying (i.e. drinking, smoking weed, pain pills), aren't you worried this may effect the baby? Maybe talk to a doc?

I can`t hardly believe this reply. Do you honestly think that killing the baby is better than taking a chance(which is probably pretty slight) that it may be born deformed? Even if the slight chance for deformity occurs, it will most likely be minor. And should we go to the extreme off chance that the baby will be seriously deformed, do you still think it would be better to kill it? You`re practically asking him to commit murder... Forget it. I don`t feel like getting into this.

Freak: Let me say that I`m glad to hear you`ve decided to have the baby. I know you and your girl are not done thinking about it though, but I hope you stay with your stand to have the child(and it is a living baby, not just a lump of meat).
I don`t expect it to be easy, even more so for your girl, to carry the baby, and then give it up after birth. But by waiting you give yourselves more time to decide if you can handle raising another child or not.

I also want to say thanks for the heads-up in regards to AS making one sterile.

 

[bohunk82]

Everyone has choices in their lives and they live with those choices everyday of their lives. I don't think anybody has the right to tell or imply to that person that he's stupid or evil.
Everyone has a choice, and its easy to say one thing but when your put in that situation its harder than it looks.

Just my 2 cents

 

[Bulldog_10]

Everyone has choices in their lives and they live with those choices everyday of their lives. I don't think anybody has the right to tell or imply to that person that he's stupid or evil.
Everyone has a choice, and its easy to say one thing but when your put in that situation its harder than it looks.

Just my 2 cents

That 2 cents is worth a buck to me! Well put my friend...

 

[RICOSUAVE]

good luck bro

 

[robsatx]

Agreed - However . . .

quote:
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Originally posted by bohunk82
Everyone has choices in their lives and they live with those choices everyday of their lives. I don't think anybody has the right to tell or imply to that person that he's stupid or evil.
Everyone has a choice, and its easy to say one thing but when your put in that situation its harder than it looks.

Just my 2 cents
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

That 2 cents is worth a buck to me! Well put my friend...

We can all be in the same position as Freak. However not one of us can go back into our mothers womb and have our brains sucked out of our head by a nurse or doctor. If you are going to play the "we have not been there card", be sure to play both sides. The baby and mom/dad.

P.S. It never ceases to amaze me that couples that want a baby never say we are having a fetus. While couples on the other side say it is just a fetus. I guess this is to justify death in their own minds.

 

[nekrawulf]

Im appalled by all the members here who stress their opinions so outwardly to a post that someone has made in order to hopefully educate those who may be uneducated and belive that AS may or may not make them sterile. You all bicker and fight like children, not heeding the fact that this is an actual event occuring in this mans life.

I dont know why anyone would try to dictate to another human being how they should or shouldnt live their life.

There is an old saying that "benevolence is in the eye of the behold, as is evil". Unless you are this very man, in his very situation, with all aspects of your lives being the same....how can you possibly make an unbiased and fair judgment of this mans character or his actions?

Some of you scream fairness to an unborn baby, yet this is a world where even the born arent treated fairly.

I was adopted at birth, and have known my birth mother my entire life. Am I glad she did it?....yes. It would be irrational for me to say no because I am of sound mind and body. But how would I have rational thought if my brain never developed to that point.

Freakaziod: Think long and hard on your decision...this is one of the most important ones in your life. Have faith in yourself and your girlfirend, because it is the two of you who ultimately make this decision. Whatever you choose..make sure 100% that this is the outcome that you want.

BigGunz2, sassy69, Bulldog_10: Way to understand what a post is trying to say...and supporting our fellow human with support. Much love and respect to.

Above all try to remember that respect is probably the best form of advice that you can give someone. If someone is adult enough to try to warn others from making the same mistake as he did, I do belive he is adult enough to make decisions about his and his girlfriends life. Good luck with everything freak.

 

[Bulldog_10]

Im appalled by all the members here who stress their opinions so outwardly to a post that someone has made in order to hopefully educate those who may be uneducated and belive that AS may or may not make them sterile. You all bicker and fight like children, not heeding the fact that this is an actual event occuring in this mans life.

I dont know why anyone would try to dictate to another human being how they should or shouldnt live their life.

There is an old saying that "benevolence is in the eye of the behold, as is evil". Unless you are this very man, in his very situation, with all aspects of your lives being the same....how can you possibly make an unbiased and fair judgment of this mans character or his actions?

Some of you scream fairness to an unborn baby, yet this is a world where even the born arent treated fairly.

I was adopted at birth, and have known my birth mother my entire life. Am I glad she did it?....yes. It would be irrational for me to say no because I am of sound mind and body. But how would I have rational thought if my brain never developed to that point.

Freakaziod: Think long and hard on your decision...this is one of the most important ones in your life. Have faith in yourself and your girlfirend, because it is the two of you who ultimately make this decision. Whatever you choose..make sure 100% that this is the outcome that you want.

BigGunz2, sassy69, Bulldog_10: Way to understand what a post is trying to say...and supporting our fellow human with support. Much love and respect to.

Above all try to remember that respect is probably the best form of advice that you can give someone. If someone is adult enough to try to warn others from making the same mistake as he did, I do belive he is adult enough to make decisions about his and his girlfriends life. Good luck with everything freak.

 

[TPH]

before someone starts spreading some BS like AS causes birth defects please site some studies. Don't spread that kind of rumor - thats just stupid!!

 

[freakazoid]

before someone starts spreading some BS like AS causes birth defects please site some studies. Don't spread that kind of rumor - thats just stupid!!

first of all,if you were in this situation wouldnt you be concerned about the safty of your child? second if you would have read the whole thread you would have read where i stated " i am not a dr. and have read nothing saying that steroids cause birth defects nor have i read anything saying otherwise". please read whole thread before you give your .002 cents.

 

[nekrawulf]

If you dont mind me asking...What did the 2 of you finally decide. If you dont want to say it on the board then PM me.