GHB precursor 1,4-Butanediol

[Daeo]

the 1,4 I get is almost tastless. the GHB and GBL floating around out there is enough to make you puke from it's horrible taste. you tell me what one you think has more impurities?
firstenrgy

Impurities aren't the problem with 1,4. It's the chemical reaction in your body that's harmful. I've used 1,4 before and can tell something is wrong. Use GHB for gods sake. Using 1,4 because of the legality is stupid...

 

[orca]

Grainger, 1/4 and gbl are not the same thing.
I personally think that prolonged use of gbl/ghb/1/4 and just about anything else is not good. Use the shit for partying, not every night, every once and a while, just like you would booze. Would you use vodka everynight to sleep, LOL, I dont think so.


I am so damn tired of hearing people talk smack " bro stay away from that shit, it will kill you, I personally know 15 people who have died from that shit" You have to be kidding!

ORCA

 

[joeholland]

Do any of you guys ever take 1,4 as a club drug? Or mainly just to fall asleep?

 

[Wombat]

Do any of you guys ever take 1,4 as a club drug? Or mainly just to fall asleep?

took it as both---

started out at 3mls to sleep and worked my way up to close to 7-8 mls at night---just way to much----stick to the real mcCoy---your body will thank you

 

[joeholland]

I know ghb is the real thing, but it is hard to come by. 1,4 is much easier to get. I use 1,4 as a sleep aid, only now and then, and it works great. 3-4ml does the trick for me.

 

[Grainger]

Hey Orca FUCK OFF!!! No shit they are not the same thing! I have a masters in biochem. I'm not bragging or saying that it means anything significant but chances are, it is more of a background than YOU have. I have been using GHB since 88! You were probably not even in high school then!.....you are probably still living at home with your mother now!

I was young and stupid like you at one point too so I guess I shouldn't blame you too much but I just post my experiences with the shit to give people a different side of the coin. If you don't like, TOO FUCKIN bad! Can't blame me for not wanting people on this board to get hurt?!?! I only post on thing that I have personal or professional expereince with. I was always pro G, in fact I tried to get Abbott Laboratories to come out with GHB as a drug for many years!

I am sick of listening to people like YOU talking about how SAFE the shit is as long as your "safe" about using!! What the fuck do you know?!??!?!


I GET SUCH A KICK OUT OF LAY PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT CHEMISTRY.....OR PEOPLE THAT HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT DRUG ADDICTION TALK ABOUT HOW TO "USE" PROPERLY!

 

[drrman]

You are right grainger, it is NOT safe, its a very dangerous drug to say the least, but with proper judgement and the proper usage, it can have its good qualities. I just had a friend die last week from GHB, so its definitely not safe. But listen people, i do KNOW this, 1,4 is MUCH MUCH worse on your body than gbl, or ghb. and gbl and ghb are not two totall diffferent drugs. Shit, if you have gbl, all you have to have is sodium hydroxide and water and you can have GHB! its that simple people, GHB is GBL and NaOH. I don't have scientific proof to tell you 1,4 is BAD, but i have personal experience and friends experiences with it, so just STAY away from it, and another thing
GBL is very easy to get online, its just like steroids, all you people want to jump on a site put your credit card number in and have it delivered, well its not always that easy, but if you look hard enough, GBL can be found, and NaOH is perfectly legal to buy, its just lye, then get you some scales, a beaker, and some ph strips and GHB is one step away.

 

[TraxZBT]

You are right grainger, it is NOT safe, its a very dangerous drug to say the least, but with proper judgement and the proper usage, it can have its good qualities. I just had a friend die last week from GHB, so its definitely not safe. But listen people, i do KNOW this, 1,4 is MUCH MUCH worse on your body than gbl, or ghb. and gbl and ghb are not two totall diffferent drugs. Shit, if you have gbl, all you have to have is sodium hydroxide and water and you can have GHB! its that simple people, GHB is GBL and NaOH. I don't have scientific proof to tell you 1,4 is BAD, but i have personal experience and friends experiences with it, so just STAY away from it, and another thing
GBL is very easy to get online, its just like steroids, all you people want to jump on a site put your credit card number in and have it delivered, well its not always that easy, but if you look hard enough, GBL can be found, and NaOH is perfectly legal to buy, its just lye, then get you some scales, a beaker, and some ph strips and GHB is one step away.

OOoo don't use lye.... lye is mainly sodium hydroxide WITH many impurities and other metals... get USP grade NaOH or KOH.. if anyone needs links to sites that have it, shoot me an email but for the love of God, don't use lye. Almost the same thing as using drano....

 

[Quadsweep]

2ml: anti-depressant
3ml: clubbing
4ml: sleep
5ml: barf up everything you ate that day

that is about right for me too. but it seems to vary from person to person. also how much food you have in your stomach is a big determining factor. first time people I always say stsart at 2ml and work up until you figure out what is right for you.

 

[drrman]

quadsweep, i didn't mean it literally, i meant it was "basically" lye, sorry for the confusion, just was trying to get the point across that NaOH was very easily obtainable and perfectly legal, thats it.