Gh?

[sensiemellia]

My hubby is on a course of GH and he is suffering from Joint pains - mainly elbows n Knees, would this be the GH..?

Personally i think he needs a few weeks off (his longest full break has been 2weeks) he`s been BB for 21yrs. He needs to give his systems chance to rejuvenate.. muscle oxygenation training!! x[/FONT

 

[Ulter]

Yes it's the gh making his joints hurt. He should use it either EOD, which is best, or 5 days on and 2 off.

 

[sensiemellia]

Yes it's the gh making his joints hurt. He should use it either EOD, which is best, or 5 days on and 2 off.

he has been on 4 IUs a day, 2 - am & 2 - pm.. 5 days on and 2 days off.. and hes just gone to every other day, his elbow pain was unreal!!
so should it ease up abit..?

 

[Ulter]

he has been on 4 IUs a day, 2 - am & 2 - pm.. 5 days on and 2 days off.. and hes just gone to every other day, his elbow pain was unreal!!
so should it ease up abit..?

He's got a make a choice. It will subside but it will take a while and could last months. If he comes off it will get better and then he can go back on and build a tolerance going on and off. That's what I did.

 

[sensiemellia]

That makes sense.. this is his 2nd time on GH.
Thanks Ulter.. appreciated x

 

[nsashbl01]

Ulter, do you still do 5 on 2 off? Two docs have told me to stay on 7 days straight. So thats what I've done. Just dropped to 2 iu though because my wrist were really bothering me. Been back at 2iu fo a few weeks and wrists are getting better. I did get joint pain in the beginning, but it went away.

 

[Ulter]

I don't use it right now but I will use it EOD since reading two research papers showing that it yields better results than daily. GH does not match the gh your body makes, although it close, and what they found was that if you take GH and let you body make it naturally the following day it yields better results.

 

[slat1]

Ulter... what is your opinion on taking it at night? Everything I have read has told me that you are replacing your natural gh production. Meaning you are essentially throwing away what you use at that time. Do you agree with that? A buddy of mine that competes nationally and writes for a major publication mentioned to me that he only uses it in the morning. Not the morning/noon protocal most support. Any thoughts there?
If you were to follow the eod routine... at what times would you take it?

 

[Ulter]

You can really get caught up in those arguments. The best results I see people getting are using it mid day when your natural gh is gone.

 

[sweed]

Ulter... what is your opinion on taking it at night? Everything I have read has told me that you are replacing your natural gh production. Meaning you are essentially throwing away what you use at that time. Do you agree with that? A buddy of mine that competes nationally and writes for a major publication mentioned to me that he only uses it in the morning. Not the morning/noon protocal most support. Any thoughts there?
If you were to follow the eod routine... at what times would you take it?

hmmm, who could this be??? too bad I wont be seeing him this september.

 

[ed2005]

I don't use it right now but I will use it EOD since reading two research papers showing that it yields better results than daily. GH does not match the gh your body makes, although it close, and what they found was that if you take GH and let you body make it naturally the following day it yields better results.

Ulter, I'm just about to start 12 month's on GH, so would you suggest that 4ius EOD would be better than 2ius everyday as I'd planned?

 

[Ulter]

Yes

 

[ed2005]

Yes

Thanks again Ulter but should I start with 2ius ED for the first month and then change to 4iu's EOD as you suggest or just go 4ius right away. I also plan to do a primo/sus cycle 2 months in for the first time.
Cheers.
Ed

 

[jeb0177]

I used to take 2ius a day of jino's never had a problem with them,5 on and 2 off. I got myself two more kits and i will start another cycle i'm just waiting on my order of test deca. cheers

 

[ed2005]

I used to take 2ius a day of jino's never had a problem with them,5 on and 2 off. I got myself two more kits and i will start another cycle i'm just waiting on my order of test deca. cheers

Thanks Jeb, I was on Saizen 1iu ED 6on/1of and found it absolutely amazing in the 6 weeks I was on it. Unfortunately my supply dried up and I got burned twice and haven't been on it since. I'm now waiting on my new supply of Jintropin coming through this week and plan to go for 12 months. Can't wait but want to do it right. Don't know what to do now but I see Ulters point.
Thanks again Jeb.
Ed

 

[jeb0177]

welcome. Jino's are good I have been using it two times in two of my cycles, I would do 10-12wk cycles but I would run my jinos it like for 8 months or so. I really liked it though, I would like to try the kexing ones they are cheaper but I like this ones (jino's) because they use the same secretion and the same chain of amino acids as Ely Lilly which is real expensive. in the other hand the kexing they use minus one amino acid I belive, and I heard that kexing sometimes causes redness in the injection spot.

Thanks Jeb, I was on Saizen 1iu ED 6on/1of and found it absolutely amazing in the 6 weeks I was on it. Unfortunately my supply dried up and I got burned twice and haven't been on it since. I'm now waiting on my new supply of Jintropin coming through this week and plan to go for 12 months. Can't wait but want to do it right. Don't know what to do now but I see Ulters point.
Thanks again Jeb.
Ed

 

[Ulter]

Thanks again Ulter but should I start with 2ius ED for the first month and then change to 4iu's EOD as you suggest or just go 4ius right away. I also plan to do a primo/sus cycle 2 months in for the first time.
Cheers.
Ed

I see no reason to start ED.

 

[ed2005]

welcome. Jino's are good I have been using it two times in two of my cycles, I would do 10-12wk cycles but I would run my jinos it like for 8 months or so. I really liked it though, I would like to try the kexing ones they are cheaper but I like this ones (jino's) because they use the same secretion and the same chain of amino acids as Ely Lilly which is real expensive. in the other hand the kexing they use minus one amino acid I belive, and I heard that kexing sometimes causes redness in the injection spot.

Thanks Jeb. Good to hear about Jino's. After the success with Saizen I was worried about maybe not getting as good as with another. If it works I'll stick with Jino's as the cost doesn't really bother me. It's just the best way or most effective way to use it and I know everyone's different.
Cheers
Ed

I see no reason to start ED.

Thanks Ulter
Ok, Crunch time. If I do 4ius EOD can I do all 4ius first thing in the morning or do I have to split 2 and 2. If this was the case it would have to be 2iu ED.
Thanks again
Ed

 

[gymratforlife]

Might have to do the eod deal for a week or 2 since I am runing real low right now.

 

[Ulter]

No I would take it all at once. And like I said, I had the best results taking it mid-day when natural gh levels are nil. At night makes for some awesome dreams though.

 

[ed2005]

No I would take it all at once. And like I said, I had the best results taking it mid-day when natural gh levels are nil. At night makes for some awesome dreams though.

I can only wish for the dreams...lol. I don't sleep too good and haven't done for at least 3 years now except when I was on the Saizen then I slept like a baby. I took that last thing at night btw. I'm in my mid 40's so maybe my natural GH has diminished completely. Midday would cause a problem but could be done but how long would the mixed substance stay 'good' in the syringe?
Cheers
Ed

 

[Ulter]

mid 40's, So you're a younger guy. No don't do that, you want to make and use it immediately.
If your choices are morning or night, morning is better.

 

[Dweezle1]

Does age make a difference with regards to ED or EOD? I'm over 50 and probably have fairly low natural GH.

 

[Ulter]

No it doesn't. In fact, the study was done on children whose levels were lower than yours. That's why they picked them.

 

[ed2005]

mid 40's, So you're a younger guy. No don't do that, you want to make and use it immediately.
If your choices are morning or night, morning is better.

Ok, you the boss. Morning it is at 4ius EOD for 12 months. Can I post before and after pics? And if so which forum? Oh, and thanks again to you Ulter, Jeb and everyone for their help and advice. K to ya bro's.
Cheers
Ed

 

[Brawl]

I agree with ulter on morning or night choices . But I've done GH and studies I've read say EOD is best and a shot mid morning AND mid-afternoon are best .

Your body will naturally produce at night when you sleep so hit it the other times of the day when your levels are lowest .

 

[junk]

I cannot find my own post about the EOD hGH usage.
I personally go with 12iu EOD

 

[ed2005]

I cannot find my own post about the EOD hGH usage.
I personally go with 12iu EOD

That's a lot Junk! At my age I'm a little more cautious and my physique goals probably wouldn't be the same as yours. I just wanna be a 20 year old again...lol
Thanks guys
Ed

 

[Strongone]

I was doing 2 iu ed then I bumped it up to 4iu but the swelling in my hands made it unbearable to make a fist. So I dropped down to 2 iu ed.
NOw I'm doing 4iu EOD and the swelling is back with a vengence... I guess it does work better EOD.

 

[informed09]

Ulter can you post these studies? I would love to read them. You hear and read so many different ways to take GH.