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GH doses for mass

the mechanic

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Say that if the cost of GH was not a factor, what daily amount is needed for building mass.......and also, what duration should or can it be ran for ?
 
I do understand about the gear needed to run with it.......lol
I have played with GH before at 2iu`s, twice a day along with slin and a heavy cycle which ran about 12 weeks. I got good gains and was hard and vascular like I was contest prepping, but was eating everthing under the sun and diet was the last thing on my mind.
I know genetics is a HUGE factor in bodybuilding, but I do know a certain someone who runs 18iu`s daily during bulking and pre-contest and swears it is considered average to achieve the size and look needed to stay competitive in the sport at the professional level.
Crazy but true
 
I'm running 8iu's/day 6 on/1off while on test and 6 while off. I have enough Genos and Holos for a year so we'll see how well this goes.
 
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The research indicates that GH's primary impact is to change lean body composition, not as a mass builder. But what it does do is allow high level trainers to use large doses of steroids and to consume copious amounts of food without getting fat or smooth. That's the unique talent of GH.....you can get big AND lean at the same time.
The research seems to indicate that massive doses of GH are a waste, also. Our natural defense mechanism causes exogenous GH molecules to be "bound" at a higher rate, which prevents them from interacting with the GH receptors which require "free" GH molecules. I have used 12iu a day for 3 months, and didn't see a lot of difference over 6.
I'm going to attach a couple pictures. In both, I am using the same dose of GH. In the upper, I was looking for hardness, and used light insulin with mostly anabolics, and a strick diet. In the lower one, heavy insulin and mostly androgens and a lot of calories. I think you can see which approach builds more mass.
 
Ironmaster

Did you get my e-mail? I've tried to PM you but your mailbox is full.
 
I havent played with doses as high as ironmaster has but I have also noticed larger doses dont seem to do much (if anything more) than lower doses.
 
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ironmaster said:
The research indicates that GH's primary impact is to change lean body composition, not as a mass builder. But what it does do is allow high level trainers to use large doses of steroids and to consume copious amounts of food without getting fat or smooth. That's the unique talent of GH.....you can get big AND lean at the same time.
The research seems to indicate that massive doses of GH are a waste, also. Our natural defense mechanism causes exogenous GH molecules to be "bound" at a higher rate, which prevents them from interacting with the GH receptors which require "free" GH molecules. I have used 12iu a day for 3 months, and didn't see a lot of difference over 6.
I'm going to attach a couple pictures. In both, I am using the same dose of GH. In the upper, I was looking for hardness, and used light insulin with mostly anabolics, and a strick diet. In the lower one, heavy insulin and mostly androgens and a lot of calories. I think you can see which approach builds more mass.

Great info Ironmaster!:D
 
i am looking to do the same...GH with winter BULK cycle...last winter did about 800mg test/wk, 800mg deca/wk, and 50-100mg dbol/day after doing a 3 week anadrol bloat and made some impressive gains...did 'slin here and there but after a few scares quit on that...was FAT enough anyway...gained 32 lbs in 9 wks! anyway - planning on doing the same cycle WITH GH and keeping the 'slin all the way through.
i intended to do 6iu per day divided into 2-3 shots...i'm a first timer with GH but have done juice & competitions for about 4 yrs now...should i shoot a little lower and use say 4iu's a day in 2 shots or what? i could care less about staying "lean" right now i just want to put on some muscle...should i bother with the expense of GH or not? any help would be appreciated!
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Personally I would start 2 IU dialy (first thing in the AM) and see how it goes, if a few weeks go by without sides bump it up an IU and go for a couple more weeks and see what happens. Nothing worse than having to abort GH because of sides.
 
It seems that the equation of dosage to sides is qute different with everyone. I have a buddy that weighs 190 and does 6iu's a day and has no sides. Im 280 and if I go over 2 I lose all feeing in my right hand. It really messed up my sex life.

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