Gh and fatburning

[sinnsbip]

I just started my first gh cycle a week ago. Im doing 4 iu eod, with 75 mgs tren eod. Does anybody know how long i takes before the fatburning starts? A buddy of mine stated to shed fat after only two weeks, but i have never heard about anyone else getting so fast results. Is this usual?

 

[ed2005]

I just started my first gh cycle a week ago. Im doing 4 iu eod, with 75 mgs tren eod. Does anybody know how long i takes before the fatburning starts? A buddy of mine stated to shed fat after only two weeks, but i have never heard about anyone else getting so fast results. Is this usual?

There are probably quite a number of factors that determin an individuals reaction stemming from age and BF% levels at the start down to the dosage and time off day.
I noticed BF loss within the first week of usage and since then it's melted...It is also possible to spot reduce fat by injecting into a particulary fatty area like sides or chest, etc..diet also plays a roll and I highly recommend R-ALA usage whilst on GH...
I personnally don't like EOD I have found 5/2 works far better for me..
Ed

 

[sinnsbip]

Ok. When ru ning 5/2, why do you need two days off? Why not just every day?

 

[ed2005]

Ok. When ru ning 5/2, why do you need two days off? Why not just every day?

Personaly I don't go to the gym on Sat/Sun so I like to think my body normalises on those days and it allows my own natural release of GH to continue. As I'm on for 12 months I don't want to create the chance of natty shut down... also the doses of 3/4iu on a daily basis I believe are far better and more certain of less rejection from the body than the dose of 6/8ius and it also saves 2 shots in one day which can be inconvienient as 8ius at one go is a no no....
Just my thoughts, not expert advice, just the way it's worked for me...
Cheers
Ed

 

[thelion2005]

You are a young guy.

What will you do after the cycle to maintain the change or further improve?

 

[sinnsbip]

You are a young guy.

What will you do after the cycle to maintain the change or further improve?

This isnt my first gear cycle, but it will be my first gh cycle. I guess ill just keep training, and maintain a healthy diet. The reason ive chosen to try gh is because of the few sides, and the great benifits it has, as opposed to other roids

 

[bigpat]

5/2 is ok go for long terms use.....3 months+++

 

[sinnsbip]

5/2 is ok go for long terms use.....3 months+++

Ok... I was planning to do low dosages, just 4 ie eod, so thats 2 ie 5 days a week, i would guess. Is that enough? Will it have any effect?

 

[ed2005]

Ok... I was planning to do low dosages, just 4 ie eod, so thats 2 ie 5 days a week, i would guess. Is that enough? Will it have any effect?

It depends what you want to get from it, but yes you should see changes at 2ius ED but don't expect it overnight. 3rd month of use is usually when the noticable changes come but others see changes right away...Thing is to be patient because over the time period it will change you, indefinately...

 

[sinnsbip]

It depends what you want to get from it, but yes you should see changes at 2ius ED but don't expect it overnight. 3rd month of use is usually when the noticable changes come but others see changes right away...Thing is to be patient because over the time period it will change you, indefinately...

I have all the time in the world...

 

[sinnsbip]

Here is a perhaps stupid question, but ill ask it anyway; I have heard that while on hgh, one can eat all you want, and not gain fat. A buddy of mine went as long as to claim that your diet could consist of choclate only, and you still would not gain weight. Is there any truth to this? And if it is, how long does it take before i can ease a little up on my diet?

 

[nsashbl01]

Here is a perhaps stupid question, but ill ask it anyway; I have heard that while on hgh, one can eat all you want, and not gain fat. A buddy of mine went as long as to claim that your diet could consist of choclate only, and you still would not gain weight. Is there any truth to this? And if it is, how long does it take before i can ease a little up on my diet?

Easing up on your diet is wasting your GH. Keep diet clean so you become healthier and stronger. GH is a very poor investment for weight management.

 

[bigpat]

im agree, eat properly

 

[ed2005]

im agree, eat properly

Totally agree with Nsash and Bigpat, if your prepared to make the investment into GH then you want the best return for your buck...Would you buy a race horse and feed it McDonalds all day?..similar scenario...Eat bucket loads of protein, good quality carbs are a must, good fats are needed and if you want have a down day where you can have things you crave from time to time...it's all about balance.the more crap you eat the less protein you'll want and the less results you'll get....
Cheers
Ed

 

[sinnsbip]

Totally agree with Nsash and Bigpat, if your prepared to make the investment into GH then you want the best return for your buck...Would you buy a race horse and feed it McDonalds all day?..similar scenario...Eat bucket loads of protein, good quality carbs are a must, good fats are needed and if you want have a down day where you can have things you crave from time to time...it's all about balance.the more crap you eat the less protein you'll want and the less results you'll get....
Cheers
Ed

I always eat healthy, i just want to eat more! And i have heard that you can eat all you want, without gaining fat on gh. And that would be great. Besides, more food (healthy of course) equals more protein, right?

 

[nsashbl01]

I always eat healthy, i just want to eat more! And i have heard that you can eat all you want, without gaining fat on gh. And that would be great. Besides, more food (healthy of course) equals more protein, right?

More healthy foods does not mean more protein or foods that will make ya grow. Eat clean / complex carbs and good lean protein. Limit carbs to leafy green veggies, yams, brown rice, grains, etc.

Over the long run with GH, you will see a positive body comp change if you eat clean. I have really not gained much size in the last 8 months, but I look way bigger because I'm much harder and leaner. I have been as high as 4 iu, but I still get good results at 2iu and my doc is happier then!

 

[Jroxxx]

ok i have bin on hgh for 9 weeks ,3 iu ed 1.5iu in the am and 1.5iu in pm .i used it with winny 50mg tabs ed .i am off the winny for about 3 weeks now(6 week cycle) and droped the hgh to 2 iu ed ,1iu am and 1iu pm and i got really weird 2 days ago .really tired and snappy then stressed out .i needed to go home and take a nap .i also noticed a week be4 that i was getting tierd later in the day and couldnt keep my eyes open .is this because of the hgh blocking my insulin production ,iam i becomeing hypoglycemic or worse .plz help jroxxx

 

[will b huge]

ok i have bin on hgh for 9 weeks ,3 iu ed 1.5iu in the am and 1.5iu in pm .i used it with winny 50mg tabs ed .i am off the winny for about 3 weeks now(6 week cycle) and droped the hgh to 2 iu ed ,1iu am and 1iu pm and i got really weird 2 days ago .really tired and snappy then stressed out .i needed to go home and take a nap .i also noticed a week be4 that i was getting tierd later in the day and couldnt keep my eyes open .is this because of the hgh blocking my insulin production ,iam i becomeing hypoglycemic or worse .plz help jroxxx

hey Jroxx---sounds strange....but it cant be HGH blocking insulin to become hypoglycemic-----if you blocked your insulin---your blood glucose would continue to rise making you Hyperglycemic.......HGH can make you tired.......and yes, hgh does have effect on insulin, not blocking it, but more easily putting you in a hypoglycemic state---blood sugar too low------if you felt like that---did you eat anything???? That should of immediately cleared it up....

If you suspect that you are in a HYPOGLYCEMIC state---the absolutely LAST thing you want to do is take a nap!!!!_------Please get some food in you and see how you feel in 15 minutes.........

If its more than this----its probably Doctor time and get all of your levels checked......

 

[Outtlaw]

hey Jroxx---sounds strange....but it cant be HGH blocking insulin to become hypoglycemic-----if you blocked your insulin---your blood glucose would continue to rise making you Hyperglycemic.......HGH can make you tired.......and yes, hgh does have effect on insulin, not blocking it, but more easily putting you in a hypoglycemic state---blood sugar too low------if you felt like that---did you eat anything???? That should of immediately cleared it up....

If you suspect that you are in a HYPOGLYCEMIC state---the absolutely LAST thing you want to do is take a nap!!!!_------Please get some food in you and see how you feel in 15 minutes.........

If its more than this----its probably Doctor time and get all of your levels checked......

Yeah, gh can cause an insulin resistance which could indeed make you hypo. But 1iu at a time is hardly enough to cause such an effect under normal circumstances. It's beyond me why anyone would shoot 1iu in the 1st place.

 

[gymratforlife]

There are a lot better things you can use for fatloss than gh.Not to mention a LOT cheaper.

 

[will b huge]

Yeah, gh can cause an insulin resistance which could indeed make you hypo. But 1iu at a time is hardly enough to cause such an effect under normal circumstances. It's beyond me why anyone would shoot 1iu in the 1st place.

I agree, GH cause a little insulin resistance (which can be very good) but not insulin blocking----you would still pump out what you were going to---but GH simply lets us be a touch numb to it..........

Here read this from the GH GURU Himself-Dr. SPEER----

The other effect of GH is that it makes us insulin resistant to glucose concentration. The beauty of this insulin resistance is that it allows us to have a high insulin levels without profound hypoglycemia, and together with the IGF-1 this then gives us a maximum anabolic effect.

But prolonged elevated insulin and insulin resistance could lead us in the wrong direction, and Type II diabetes. So in the week off GH, the very low carbohydrate levels causes very low insulin levels, which hopefully reestablishes normal insulin sensitivity. This restores certain enzyme concentrations back to levels that support the burning of fat, instead of glucose and amino acids (catabolic burning of muscle) to cover the energy requirements.

Growth hormone, however, causes A.D.H. (Anti-Diuretic Hormone) to go up. ADH is a very potent coronary constrictor which also constricts veins. It is produced starting in the hypothalamus. The nerve endings of certain neurons in the hypothalamus reach into the posterior pituitary, and ADH and oxicitocin come from the posterior pituitary. ADH can go up to 20 times normal levels with fear, or anger, and stress. This can cause coronary constriction within minutes, and this can cause a massive heart attack.

Growth hormone makes ADH go up, and as a direct effect of this, water retention goes up, which causes higher blood pressure. ADH is dose dependent of GH, which is why you have to drop the dose if blood pressure goes up too high, until your circulatory system adjusts to handle it. This is the only bad side effect of an otherwise very good dose of growth hormone.

"Clonidine" is the safest high blood pressure medicine. It causes no side effects, and no impotency of any kind. It is indicated if you have high blood pressure due to ADH.

 

[thelion2005]

I would guess this is true. Certainly no expert.

However, I'm lead to believe that there are many other health related
positives from the supplementation of HGH.

LOL ... anyway ...that's what I want to believe as I spend my money.