Gear and Death?

[Canadian_Beef_eh]

Guys,
I just read a post that stk died although I dont know who he is. Does anyone know how this poor guy past away? Was it confirmed if it was the gear?

Wow, makes you think? I have never heard of anyone (who didnt hard core abuse) die from a heart attack because of gear, I wonder if there were signs or pre existing conditions have any of you guys heard stories like this before cause of gear?

 

[satchboogie]

long term abuse of any drug can lead to health complications and death.

enlargening of the heart and high blood pressure are #1 and #2 accusees of steroid related deaths.

 

[bumpo]

yep

 

[drrman]

i have heard STK had a inherited heart condition, the juice may have speeded up the process......he was a damn good bro too

 

[bigerisbetter]

Sooo sad. Gotta be safe.

 

[dzuljas]

what would you consider "hardcore use"?

 

[Latamier]

long term abuse of any drug can lead to health complications and death.

enlargening of the heart and high blood pressure are #1 and #2 accusees of steroid related deaths.

Satch is right on. The heart is a muscle as well, so it is growing the same way the rest of your muscles are. You also need to watch the cholesterol while on a cycle. The biggest problem for me is my blood pressure. I may have to back off from doing these longer 6-8 month cycles if my blood pressure stays this high.

 

[satchboogie]

Satch is right on. The heart is a muscle as well, so it is growing the same way the rest of your muscles are. You also need to watch the cholesterol while on a cycle. The biggest problem for me is my blood pressure. I may have to back off from doing these longer 6-8 month cycles if my blood pressure stays this high.

tell me more about your cycle dosages from day 1.
also, whats your BP at?

 

[psychedout]

tell me more about your cycle dosages from day 1.
also, whats your BP at?

Bump for this. Interested to know as well.

 

[thelegacy]

a guy at my gym died a few weeks ago from poor insulin use--his friends walked in and he was dead with blood coming out the mouth---makes ya think if its worth it!

 

[satchboogie]

insulin is one drug that should NOT be taken period!!

 

[psychedout]

insulin is one drug that should NOT be taken period!!

I agree. Unless you are competing at a national level and are willing to sacrifice everything for a better physique, slin should not be taken.

I do not condemn it, but it's not for me.

 

[Zyglamail]

The problem we face is that gear use can exacerbate many conditions and can even occasionally be fatal and as stated these conditions would have manifested over time anyway, gear use just just expidited the process and in turn gets the bad wrap more often than not. One more reason Doc supervision is a great idea when activly cycling.

 

[Canadian_Beef_eh]

Ok though, (and I know everyone is different) but if your not a hard core user and keep your cycles moderate lasting no more than 12 weeks, you watch your diet and blood pressure ect, how can a healthy user just go to bed and die in his sleep like that without any previous signs?

I mean, I know monkey's even fall from trees but surely there are signs to warn you? You cant just boom die like that like STK did?

I can understand if your a slin user and even useing recreational drugs while on a cycle will greatly increase your chances of death. I work in an office and I see fat fucking pigs stuffing there faces with Mc'ds and such while puffing on a pack of cig's a day, are they healthier than a guy who's on gear, watches his diet, does his cardio? I mean come on, what ya thing eh?

 

[~ThaGame~]

^^^^^^^even though i hate the guy i have to agree....

bump for more info on this

 

[Zyglamail]

Ok though, (and I know everyone is different) but if your not a hard core user and keep your cycles moderate lasting no more than 12 weeks, you watch your diet and blood pressure ect, how can a healthy user just go to bed and die in his sleep like that without any previous signs?

It happens to nromal, healthy appearing people who arent on AAS either. Not often but it does happen. I have heard of people who had friends, brothers sisters blahblah blah that had no apparent problems yet died in their sleep, driving or what not, so it does happen. There will usually be signs, but not always and often times the signs are ignored or the person wont tell anyone thinking it nothing to worry about.

 

[Canadian_Beef_eh]

Thats fucked eh?....

Hey Zy, do you agree if you calculate the odd's though, more people or dying from car accidents than from gear?

Hell, there are probably more people dying from rec-drugs with od's than people on gear? What do you all think?

 

[Rio 2001]

a guy at my gym died a few weeks ago from poor insulin use--his friends walked in and he was dead with blood coming out the mouth---makes ya think if its worth it!

I hope it was not that Jimmy Jones Junior guy who was giving bad advice on slin until he got banned.
Anyway, I have seen that before. Just to clear things up, an insulin shock causes violent seizures, which usually causes the subject to bite his or her tongue, and that explain the bleeding from the mouth.
Discussion boards like that are saving lifes and preventing premature deaths, since misinformation and neglect are the real causes of morbidity and mortality associated with AAS use. The more informed and aware you get, the less chances to get sick from AAS use you get. Knowledge and prevention.

 

[Canadian_Beef_eh]

yep...wise words rio...

 

[Zyglamail]

Thats fucked eh?....

Hey Zy, do you agree if you calculate the odd's though, more people or dying from car accidents than from gear?

Hell, there are probably more people dying from rec-drugs with od's than people on gear? What do you all think?

Im sure there are more traffic deaths, but also more drivers so its a tough comparison. I do feel that very few if any deaths can have AAS as the sole cause of death though. Most who have used AAS and died were into other things OR had preexisting conditions etc. Its a shame uncle sam criminalized their use because if they didnt more docs would be involved, people would be more likely to seek medical supervision, less chance of fakes/infection etc.

 

[Canadian_Beef_eh]

Yeah I can name a few WWF wrestlers here in Canada that died from what the media called "Steroid Abuse" like the British Bull Dog if you remeber him, the guy died while fucking Bret the Hit man hearts ex wife here in Kelowna BC, which is like 3 hours from Vancouver, small town. Anyways, the guys was hooked on morphine because of a spinal injury he sustained while doing a stunt in the ring. Plus he was taking uppers....anyways everything was balimed on gear...

 

[Zyglamail]

Yeah I can name a few WWF wrestlers here in Canada that died from what the media called "Steroid Abuse" like the British Bull Dog if you remeber him, the guy died while fucking Bret the Hit man hearts ex wife here in Kelowna BC, which is like 3 hours from Vancouver, small town. Anyways, the guys was hooked on morphine because of a spinal injury he sustained while doing a stunt in the ring. Plus he was taking uppers....anyways everything was balimed on gear...

Its kind of sad, but a lot of professional athletes feel forced into medications for pain etc because they have a realaticely small window(in years) where they perform to the peak of their ability and have the ability to make the kind of money they do. Its thi pressure along with the alure of the lifestyle, fame etc. Most cant give it up and turn to more than just AAS to help them compete. Its this long term abuse that overall does them in. I would bet that if the gov allowed it and people could goto a doc,just like they can for plastic surgery, get full supervision and prescriptions there would not only be less side effects for AAS users, but less deaths, more jobs and likely more money in uncle sams pocket as well.

 

[BigAndy69]

Wrestlers are known to live the "fast" life, year round AS use, pain medication, Alcohol, cocaine...