Frontloading... worth it or waste of time/gear??

[Outtlaw]

For those of you who frontload with long esters... are your results any better than just running a level dose of the gear?

 

[chefbone]

I front-loaded with EQ the seconf time I used it. It seemed to work faster but I also knew the effects the second time around.

 

[Outtlaw]

I've always sort of seen frontloading as an unnecessary thing. I have 2 reasons for this... 1, because I use too high of doses to make frontloading comfortable and easy; and 2, because I just question it's worthiness. I believe you can do the same thing as a frontload much better with a fast acting compound or an oral.

 

[buttbeater]

i think it's a waste of juice.

 

[cranny]

I've front loaded test e before and didn't really notice any difference. I'll be kickstarting w/ dbol come Jan.

 

[Zyglamail]

Its not about waste of time or gear since you use the same amount of gear and cycle for a shorter period of time.

 

[Outtlaw]

Its not about waste of time or gear since you use the same amount of gear and cycle for a shorter period of time.

But are the results really any better?? And wouldnt you rather just extend the cycle another week or so than to do a frontload?

 

[timtim]

tried it with fast acting esters, test e 600 and test prop for 3 weeks at 450, thought it would kick start alot more. really didn't do much but i did have to add more arimidex which could have affected it. i know it's not the same as frontloading long esters but it wasn't worth it in my opinion.

 

[Outtlaw]

For those voting that frontloading is def worth it, I'd like to hear your reasoning as to why.

 

[string_bean00]

Week 1: 1000mg Test E
Week 2: 750mg Test E
Week 3-12 500mg Test E

I got puffy nips so I dunno if my blood levels shot up too quick or what, but it definitely kickstarted the cycle faster.

 

[monster2929]

I LIKE TO front load with susp at 100 mg ed for the first three weeks till the longer esters kick u can use prop for this too i think its cool if u dont want to hang out and wait for the longer esters to kick i always thought this is referred to as front loading but it seems like you guys are calling this tapering thing front loading with long esters i dont go for it if u want to kick faster than go for prop or susp for the first couple of weeks and thats my opinion

 

[IRONBULL05]

I never agreed with frontloading.Long acting esters are still long acting,no matter how much you inject at once.I always kickstart my cycles with either prop,drol,or d-bol.

 

[Zyglamail]

But are the results really any better?? And wouldnt you rather just extend the cycle another week or so than to do a frontload?

I think they are better, but even if they are the same the results are only part of the reason to front load. One of the biggest benefits to frontloading is that you dont have to be on as long and hence often recover a bit sooner.

 

[DiamondCutCows]

I believe the Shadow had a longish thread about this whole thing last summer/fall, I'll try to find it.

 

[DiamondCutCows]

I believe the Shadow had a longish thread about this whole thing last summer/fall, I'll try to find it.

Here something I read a long time ago and reposted here on elite.

http://www.expertpcsupport.com/forum/showthread.php?t=382686&highlight=frontloading

Was a pretty good thread

 

[The Shadow]

the topic that wont die......

 

[rangermjg]

i have always hit it real hard out of the blocks, while the receptors fresh. i have always seen good results w/this method.

 

[disturbed80]

Frontloading can speed results up, IMO. As an example,250mg testosterone enanthate administration results in testosterone levels above the normal range 24 hours after injection (per a study over at NiH, I can find it if anyone wants)). Part of the reason a long acting compound such as test enth takes 4-5 weeks to "feel", is that you need to reach a certain concentration in the blood for the compound to do its thing - if you frontload, you can reach that concentration much sooner.

Thats my theory anyway - Personally I notice better results when I frontload sust or enanthate.