Frontloading or kickstarting with prop / oral

[njmuscleguy]

Hey folks,

Been reading alot about frontloading, particularly with test enth and EQ.

If running long esters, and you want higher blood-levels faster, is it best to:
1) Frontload with test enth for the first 2 weeks at double the dosage
2) Throw in prop for the first 4 weeks - if so, at what ratio to enth?
3) Just use an oral

Never done the first two, wondering which is most effective.

Any thoughts?

 

[OMEGA]

Just use Sus 2 times a week or once E 3 D , its close enough to the goal your trying to achieve and also sustainable throughout the cycle

 

[D_Mac]

Hey folks,

Been reading alot about frontloading, particularly with test enth and EQ.

If running long esters, and you want higher blood-levels faster, is it best to:
1) Frontload with test enth for the first 2 weeks at double the dosage
2) Throw in prop for the first 4 weeks - if so, at what ratio to enth?
3) Just use an oral

Never done the first two, wondering which is most effective.

Any thoughts?

I like to backload as well. I always did it with transdermals, but sus is basically the same thing as trans base test right?

 

[DonCorleone562]

I always kick start with an oral. Never frontloaded.

 

[SLAYER69!]

I like to get things started with drol or dbol

 

[alcatraz1662]

I like to get things started with drol or dbol

I like this...however, i blew up when i switched from enth to suspension.....hmmmmmmmm, suspension.

 

[Mac173]

I tried frontloading eq last cycle and it didn't seem to speed up the process.
I doubled the dosage for the first 2 wks.
I would stick w/ and oral.

 

[njmuscleguy]

Ok... well, one of my options was to start off the cycle with tren ace... is that an ok kickstart without Prop? I'd be running test enth and EQ also.

Otherwise I'd move the tren ace to the end of this cycle and use an oral, but I'm not sure if running tren at the end is a great idea?

Thoughts?

 

[drdug27]

Tren ace is one great kickstart.

 

[SLAYER69!]

I like this...however, i blew up when i switched from enth to suspension.....hmmmmmmmm, suspension.

Love suspension too

 

[njmuscleguy]

Tren ace is one great kickstart.

Ok, that's one vote... this is what I am leaning towards:

Wks 1-6 Tren Ace 75mg ED
Wks 1-16 EQ 400mg / wk (first time with EQ!)
Wks 1-18 Test Enth 500mg / wk
Wks 16-20 Tbol 80mg ED

I was originally thinking of 600mg EQ throughout and 750mg Test... 750mg test is the "norm" for me... but now all this talk of running lower doses is making me re-think.

 

[advanced-stealth]

That one looks good.

Ok, that's one vote... this is what I am leaning towards:

Wks 1-6 Tren Ace 75mg ED
Wks 1-16 EQ 400mg / wk (first time with EQ!)
Wks 1-18 Test Enth 500mg / wk
Wks 16-20 Tbol 80mg ED

I was originally thinking of 600mg EQ throughout and 750mg Test... 750mg test is the "norm" for me... but now all this talk of running lower doses is making me re-think.

 

[drdug27]

Ok, that's one vote... this is what I am leaning towards:

Wks 1-6 Tren Ace 75mg ED
Wks 1-16 EQ 400mg / wk (first time with EQ!)
Wks 1-18 Test Enth 500mg / wk
Wks 16-20 Tbol 80mg ED

I was originally thinking of 600mg EQ throughout and 750mg Test... 750mg test is the "norm" for me... but now all this talk of running lower doses is making me re-think.

that looks great, i also like to run an oral at the end up until pCT, and i Fin love tbol!

 

[alfuhmale]

Ok... well, one of my options was to start off the cycle with tren ace... is that an ok kickstart without Prop? I'd be running test enth and EQ also.

Otherwise I'd move the tren ace to the end of this cycle and use an oral, but I'm not sure if running tren at the end is a great idea?

My last cycle I kicked it off with an oral and this current cycle (one week in) I'm doing both prop and oral. I'm really psyched about this cycle.

500mg test e / week 1-12
600mg EQ / week 1-11
100mg prop eod week 1-5
anavar 60mg ed week 1-4
winny 50mg ed week 8-12
aifm 2 pumps/day
clomid & hcg for my pct

 

[alfuhmale]

hello

 

[cadey]

i frontloaded my test at double dose for the first 2 weeks. didnt notice any difference. (it was cyp)

 

[702daswoll1]

Ok, that's one vote... this is what I am leaning towards:

Wks 1-6 trenbolone Ace 75mg ED
Wks 1-16 Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - 400mg / wk (first time with EQ!)
Wks 1-18 Test testosterone enanthate 500mg / wk
Wks 16-20 Turanabol 80mg ED

I was originally thinking of 600mg EQ throughout and 750mg Test... 750mg test is the "norm" for me... but now all this talk of running lower doses is making me re-think.

This is almost identical to what Im running at the moment... I also kicked it off with not only Tren but Dbol too...