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Four Reasons To Olympic Lift

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Four Reasons To Olympic Lift



It was January in Utah and as I looked out my garage door, I saw another blanket of snow layer my driveway. As soon as I finished lifting, I would march back into the house, change shoes and scrap the path clean again.

I have been banging plates and lifting weights since the first Nixon administration. When I started lifting, the sport of Olympic lifting was king and all the other lifting sports were snickered at for attracting “oddballs.” Then came the machine age and these expensive and profit heavy behemoths slowly elbowed out barbells and dumbbells out of the gyms (now spas, fitness centers, and “heavens”) and into the cellars and garages. So, that is why, in snowstorms, my neighbors peer out their frosted windows, look at the steam roaring out of my nose, shake their heads, and go back to watching “Must See TV.”

What are the advantages of Olympic Lifting? Why do the Clean and Press, variations of the Snatch, and the Clean and Jerk provide not only a complete workout but complement any training program? Let’s look at four reasons:

First, the most surprising aspect of Olympic Lifting is its effect on the cardiovascular system. A few years ago, Doctor Michael Stone studied the cardiovascular benefits of Olympic Lifting. He was shocked to find the improvements made by this form of training. But why? It is a simple matter of the length of the movement of the bar. In a wrist curl, the bar may move four inches. In a Clean and Jerk, the bar moves from the floor to overhead, upwards of seven and a half feet! Every muscle in the body is used, including all the support system. A tough set of Snatches leaves the lifter heaving for breath, sweating in streams, and the heart racing. All this without even having to go the track!

Second, the human body is built in one piece. By lifting the bar from the ground to overhead, the entire body is called into act. As one begins the slow process of adding weights to the Olympic Lifts, the entire body compensates by getting bigger and stronger. One of the first areas most novices to Olympic Lifting discover is the whole chain of muscles from the gluteus and the spinal erectors to the trapezius. Shirts begin to fit funny as the muscles of the upper back grow to accommodate the pulling movements. What muscles do the Olympic Lifts build? All of them.

Third, it is difficult to overtrain or go too heavy on the Olympic Lifts. Certainly, it is possible, but because of the movement from floor to overhead, there is little room for forced reps, overload techniques, or any form of cheating. There is no bench, no rack, no supports. A lifting partner can’t stick his hand on the bar and make you squeeze out an extra rep. Olympic Lifting demands discipline in choosing weights within your abilities. But, the payoff is worth it. The feeling of hoisting bodyweight from floor to overhead for the first time remains a treasured memory years later.

Fourth, Olympic Lifting workouts don’t take very long. A solid workout of 5-4-3-2-1 or twenty singles can take less than half an hour. Working the entire body, as well as the cardiovascular system, the Olympic Lifts are very taxing. It would be hard to imagine ten sets of ten with bodyweight in the Olympic Lifts. It is hard to imagine one set. If time is pressing, take a warm up weight and Clean and Press it for ten. Add some weight, and do five. Add some more and do three. Then, keep adding smaller plates and knock off as many singles as you can, until you can’t. Workout over.

When your garage is warming up to freezing because of the steam off your body, you will understand the importance of short, quick workouts. When you can do bodyweight in all three of the lifts, look in the mirror. You will understand the importance of the Olympic Lifts.
 
Indeed

A lot of people who haven't tried OL don't realize how taxing the lifts can be on the cardiovascular system.

A couple of sets of 10 in just a simple power clean reeeeeally gets that heart rate up.

Olympic lifting. Nuthin' betta.
 
b fold the truth said:
http://danjohn.org/page55.html

Four Reasons To Olympic Lift



It was January in Utah and as I looked out my garage door, I saw another blanket of snow layer my driveway. As soon as I finished lifting, I would march back into the house, change shoes and scrap the path clean again.

I have been banging plates and lifting weights since the first Nixon administration. When I started lifting, the sport of Olympic lifting was king and all the other lifting sports were snickered at for attracting “oddballs.” Then came the machine age and these expensive and profit heavy behemoths slowly elbowed out barbells and dumbbells out of the gyms (now spas, fitness centers, and “heavens”) and into the cellars and garages. So, that is why, in snowstorms, my neighbors peer out their frosted windows, look at the steam roaring out of my nose, shake their heads, and go back to watching “Must See TV.”

What are the advantages of Olympic Lifting? Why do the Clean and Press, variations of the Snatch, and the Clean and Jerk provide not only a complete workout but complement any training program? Let’s look at four reasons:

First, the most surprising aspect of Olympic Lifting is its effect on the cardiovascular system. A few years ago, Doctor Michael Stone studied the cardiovascular benefits of Olympic Lifting. He was shocked to find the improvements made by this form of training. But why? It is a simple matter of the length of the movement of the bar. In a wrist curl, the bar may move four inches. In a Clean and Jerk, the bar moves from the floor to overhead, upwards of seven and a half feet! Every muscle in the body is used, including all the support system. A tough set of Snatches leaves the lifter heaving for breath, sweating in streams, and the heart racing. All this without even having to go the track!

Second, the human body is built in one piece. By lifting the bar from the ground to overhead, the entire body is called into act. As one begins the slow process of adding weights to the Olympic Lifts, the entire body compensates by getting bigger and stronger. One of the first areas most novices to Olympic Lifting discover is the whole chain of muscles from the gluteus and the spinal erectors to the trapezius. Shirts begin to fit funny as the muscles of the upper back grow to accommodate the pulling movements. What muscles do the Olympic Lifts build? All of them.

Third, it is difficult to overtrain or go too heavy on the Olympic Lifts. Certainly, it is possible, but because of the movement from floor to overhead, there is little room for forced reps, overload techniques, or any form of cheating. There is no bench, no rack, no supports. A lifting partner can’t stick his hand on the bar and make you squeeze out an extra rep. Olympic Lifting demands discipline in choosing weights within your abilities. But, the payoff is worth it. The feeling of hoisting bodyweight from floor to overhead for the first time remains a treasured memory years later.

Fourth, Olympic Lifting workouts don’t take very long. A solid workout of 5-4-3-2-1 or twenty singles can take less than half an hour. Working the entire body, as well as the cardiovascular system, the Olympic Lifts are very taxing. It would be hard to imagine ten sets of ten with bodyweight in the Olympic Lifts. It is hard to imagine one set. If time is pressing, take a warm up weight and Clean and Press it for ten. Add some weight, and do five. Add some more and do three. Then, keep adding smaller plates and knock off as many singles as you can, until you can’t. Workout over.

When your garage is warming up to freezing because of the steam off your body, you will understand the importance of short, quick workouts. When you can do bodyweight in all three of the lifts, look in the mirror. You will understand the importance of the Olympic Lifts.


Great read!

Just one question, who much muscle mass do OL are supposed to build? They may be great for cardio and pure strength, but where are my muscles.

A skinny guy like me needs to put on some more serious muscle weight... And OL's might not do it as good or better than normal bbing. That is a big downsize.

hehehhehehehehehhehehehehehe

:) :) :)
 
Aye, I do 2 sets of OL bar only Jump snatches from the hnag position ( bar just above the knee where and my feet actually leave the ground) at the start of my workout, and boy is it tough ! Great body warmup though

The bar by istelf feels damn heavy when you have to move the bar explosively enough for you body to leave the ground! Makes squats feel tame in comparison :D
I can't imagine how anyone does this lift with 100kg and still be able to jump into the air as read in my vert thread !!!
 
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O lifting is so hard though. It's not something you can pick up off the internet, someone has to teach you correct technique. Well that's my excuse for the moment. I'm still trying to do overhead squats with an empty bar, can't even break parallel. I'm gonna get them though. Doing 10 reps with bodyweight held overhead would be awesome.
 
Re: Re: Four Reasons To Olympic Lift

SSAlexSS said:



Great read!

Just one question, who much muscle mass do OL are supposed to build? They may be great for cardio and pure strength, but where are my muscles.

A skinny guy like me needs to put on some more serious muscle weight... And OL's might not do it as good or better than normal bbing. That is a big downsize.

hehehhehehehehehhehehehehehe

:) :) :)

yeah, olympic lifting may not be great for size, but it could help you w/ your overall fitness level.. That couldnt hurt. And im sure it would help develop your upper back and traps too.
 
Re: Re: Four Reasons To Olympic Lift

SSAlexSS said:



Great read!

Just one question, who much muscle mass do OL are supposed to build? They may be great for cardio and pure strength, but where are my muscles.

A skinny guy like me needs to put on some more serious muscle weight... And OL's might not do it as good or better than normal bbing. That is a big downsize.

hehehhehehehehehhehehehehehe

:) :) :)

if its an overload to your body and its stimulating fast twitch fibers (it is) you will get the proper stimulus to grow.

good post bfold. OL lifts are really good to mix it up and get your body in a new mode of training for a while. hang cleans, power cleans, or hybrids of those movements are good.

high pulls, power shrugs, front squat and press, etc. very good for building a nice strong foundation. since we dont live in a smooth controlled 8 rep 3/3/0 world, exercises like that make you a more functionally strong individual.

peace.
 
Doktor Bollix said:
It's not something you can pick up off the internet...

I would beg to differ. from site like this one , and people like b fold posting up their workouts, pictures, and clips of their workouts, anything is possible. I have just started doing cleans, myself, and I find those to be very taxing. you just got to have the drive to try out new things. who cares if you look like an ass trying to overhead squat, or do a hang clean? its all about learning and reaching the point where you know you are doing something that is going to benefit you, rather than just questioning it forever and deciding not to do it because, for squat's sake, it is BAD for you knees. :rolleyes:

if it wasn't for this site, I wouldn't have learned how to lift properly.
 
:mad: :mad:

I really want to start doing OL's, because after my knee surgery I'm going to start fighting again, and I know these are lifts will benefit me greatly. But, I can't find anyone who knows shit about them to help me do them properly. I have too many injuries(back, knee, shoulder, neck) to teach myself from pictures and books.
 
You have to see the lifts in motion.

I suggest you goto to my vertical leap thread and download the 2 vids there.
 
This thread motivates me to incorporate some OLs into my next training routine. I'll have to check my gym out first though to make sure they have decent enough facilities for these lifts.

I'm interested in the Clean & Jerk and the Push Press, but how would you incorporate these into a standard bodybuilding routine? Back day? I'm not a powerlifter, nor do I want to be one, but I do see the benefit of these type movements; to help develop core strength and conditioning (as well as build mass).
 
frorider6 said:
This thread motivates me to incorporate some OLs into my next training routine. I'll have to check my gym out first though to make sure they have decent enough facilities for these lifts.

I'm interested in the Clean & Jerk and the Push Press, but how would you incorporate these into a standard bodybuilding routine? Back day? I'm not a powerlifter, nor do I want to be one, but I do see the benefit of these type movements; to help develop core strength and conditioning (as well as build mass).

I look at a lot of these exercises as "fun" and for a variation only. I do not have a desire to build a routine out of them...so I try to find a way to include them into my routine for "fun" from time to time.

Back day...maybe dome some heavy cleans.

Shoulder day...maybe do some heavy clean and presses/jerks

It can't hurt...just start out slow.

Surely if I can do a set of flyes from time to time...anyone can do a set of clean and jerks. :)

B True
 
the People's Champ said:


I would beg to differ. from site like this one , and people like b fold posting up their workouts, pictures, and clips of their workouts, anything is possible. I have just started doing cleans, myself, and I find those to be very taxing. you just got to have the drive to try out new things. who cares if you look like an ass trying to overhead squat, or do a hang clean? its all about learning and reaching the point where you know you are doing something that is going to benefit you, rather than just questioning it forever and deciding not to do it because, for squat's sake, it is BAD for you knees. :rolleyes:

if it wasn't for this site, I wouldn't have learned how to lift properly.

I agree. That's an excellent site you linked to.

I've never been taught how to do hang cleans, power cleans, and push presses (the three OLs I've tried and use). I learnt from online videos and reading about the lifts. I've never injured myself or had any problems. To be safe, I started out using the bar and perfected the technique. After I was confident with my technique, I gradually started loading weights, but not too quickly at all - again, just to be sure.

OLs are some of the most enjoyable exercises to do, and also some of the most punishing and difficult. Their athletic applications are amazing, and if you're at all involved in sports, neglecting them is arguably highly detrimental to your performance.
 
I've been watching an OL video...got me fired up...

B True
 
CoolColJ said:
You have to see the lifts in motion.

I suggest you goto to my vertical leap thread and download the 2 vids there.

Someone else has to be able to watch you and correct your form as well. I thought I had good form in the Olympic lifts, till I met Chad Ikei. After he ripped apart my form, and made me feel like a total fool, I then began to learn the proper way to perform the lifts. The differences are subtle, but the amount of weight I use now is quite different.
 
Yeah, but after a while you start to know what is right and wrong

granted I had my lifts filmed and then critqued by other people on the net - Coaching by proxy :)

Mine is getting better - they are pretty much like athletic moves, so you have to drill over and over again. I film most of my attemots and review my form between sets, and adjust from there since I know what good form looks like. It helps if you train alone

I find mentally shoving the ground away while shrugging as hard as you can while fully extending the hips and arching back does the trick
 
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CoolColJ said:
Yeah, but after a while you start to know what is right and wrong

granted I had my lifts filmed and then critqued by other people on the net - Coaching by proxy :)

Mine is getting better - they are pretty much like athletic moves, so you have to drill over and over again. I film most of my attemots and review my form between sets, and adjust from there since I know what good form looks like. It helps if you train alone

I find mentally shoving the ground away while shrugging as hard as you can while fully extending the hips and arching back does the trick


I would not rely on just letting my body learn the patterns. Serious injury could result from trying to do that. I've found, that at times I feel as though I am doing the movement correctly, but in actuality the movement is nothing close to what it should be. And i have a good backround in the olympic lifts. Some of my lifting parteners, have absolutely reched form if they take to long a breakfrom these exercises.

For athletes, I generally recomend working with a coach at least once a month. I've found that this time bracket can really help to benefit the average individual.
 
"When you can do bodyweight in all three of the lifts"

What exactly are the "three lifts" he is referring to?


Thanks,
Joker
 
skaman607 said:
How would I go about incorporating this into WSB as accessory work? ME exercise? DE exercise?

You can do it on either day, but since the point of the movement is to keep accelerating the bar, I would do it on maximal effort day.
 
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