Now I've never cycled before but I got 3 close friends who have years under there belt. And none of them recommend any over the counter pct, but now only 1 has used post cycle and unleashed and he stills says no bueno. From what I hear you need something more potent then these products. Not to mention this site is the only site that promotes these product as enough to run a proper pct. Another thing if one method has been working for years for many ppl why go a different route. I say if it ain't broke don't fix it. Just my opinion. Do some more research look other places for your info. You cannot gather intel from one source that is called an opinion.