for those of you that don't read the fina board

[HappyScrappy]

there is an interesting discussion going on over there (on the fina board) saying that injection of sterile water into fat deposits will cause the fat cell to rupture due to the attempt to balance the saline levels and that this is one of the main reasons one sees localized fat loss when using GH.

I'm not saying I know anything about this, I don't even know where to get sterile water

but it makes for an interesting read at least to see them fighting.

anyone here have any thoughts on it (ideally with scientific backing)


*edited to note that they said it was 0% saline sterile water - so basically boilded distilled water? the cells will attempt to draw in more water to balance out the saline levels and then burst... so they are saying.

 

[manny78]

you mean bacteriostatic water ? I think some pharmacies have it. At least one here in Montreal used to have itbefore I guess they still do.

 

[HappyScrappy]

not sure if that is it or not. just know they are saying 0% saline sterile water. which if there are no salts in it, sounds like distilled water - and then if sterile sounds like it is post heat....
other than that, I don't know.

 

[Diesel3d]

there is an interesting discussion going on over there (on the fina board) saying that injection of sterile water into fat deposits will cause the fat cell to rupture due to the attempt to balance the saline levels and that this is one of the main reasons one sees localized fat loss when using GH.

I'm not saying I know anything about this, I don't even know where to get sterile water

but it makes for an interesting read at least to see them fighting.

anyone here have any thoughts on it (ideally with scientific backing)


*edited to note that they said it was 0% saline sterile water - so basically boilded distilled water? the cells will attempt to draw in more water to balance out the saline levels and then burst... so they are saying.

*injects poland springs water into his love handels and dies*
thanks happy

lol

good info though. I think you can make steril water with a .22 filter

 

[tap0621]

It's bacteriostatic water. As far as I know, you can't get it in the US. I remember back during the IGF1 days all of these guys had powder and no water to dilute it. The IGF was easier to obtain than the water. I happen to have a shit load of it. My wife took fertility drugs (pergonal) for over two years and it came packaged like GH with powder in one bottle and water in another. Her dosage was three powders to one water so I kept all of the left overs.

Now as for the real subject, I think its B.S. but I have been wrong before. I am going to wait before I start shooting my love handles (and my wife's ass) with this stuff.

As for boiled, distilled water, no way. That's just nuts.

 

[Badkins21]

Link anyone, I don't have it anymore...!

 

[lilguy7000]

No one is actually saying you can do this. It is just a debate. Everyone is looking to find info on this. Check it yourself:

http://pub24.ezboard.com/ffinaplixfrm1.showMessage?topicID=5611.topic

lilguy

 

[Fonz]

Interesting...

So, injecting 0% saline water.

So, in essence a negative ion charge molecule since
Na is 2+ and K is -1

Anyways,

Cell membranes(INSIDE) are regulated by the
sodium-potassium pump.

So, if you inject a potassium molecule, with a negative
ionic charge and have it REACT with the
sodium and potassium molecules inside,
you create a HYDRATING effect.

BUT, Na is 2+, and K is -1 inside, so if you
inject K(-1) you have 2 negative molecules
being REPELLED by their charge so BOTH
potassium molecules are expelled.

Na 2+ and K(-1) --------repulsion-------- K(-1)

Positive-----------attraction---------negative



The result is Na 2+ being inside the cell instead of
Na and K. So, you will HOLD water INTRA-cellularly
which creates the COMPENSATION effect.

I don't see how the fat cell woud burst though.

I mean, both K(-1's) repell each other BUT the Na 2+
inside the cell attracts both potassium molecules.

Electronegativity speaking, the electrical attraction
is not enough for the Na inside the cells to
bond with the potassium nolecules outside.

But, then there's the sodium-potassium pump
WHICH wants homeostasis back. So, it
will do anything to get the potassium back in
the cell.

Too many variables to give an estimate.

Nice theory though. Interesting.

Fonz

 

[Kahn]

The thing that keeps catching me is that you'd have to inject a single cell. I'm not that good with any guage needle.

 

[Mertz98]

HMMM HTIS IS VERY INFORMATIVE.. AND I SEE THE PIOINT ... FAT CELLS CAN BE DESTRYED THIS WAY BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE AS MENTIONED JUST A LOCAL INJECTION SITE EFFECT...THEY SIMPLE NAME FOR THIS PROCESS CALLED CELL CREANATION.. IT IS WHERE THE CELL INTAKES SO MUCH FLUID TO BALANCE OUT THE SODIUM AND POTASIUM BETWEEN INTERCELLUAR AND EXTRACELLUR FLUID ( TO MAINTAIN THE PERFECT BALANCE) THE CELL WALL BREAKS AND THE CELL IS THE DESTROYED, THE FLUID INSIDE THE CELL IS THEN WASH AWAY BY THE LYMPH SYSTEM AND THEN EXCRETEED BY THE RENAL SYSTEM.. BUT AGAIN I THINBK IT WOULD BE LOCAL EFFECT ONLY AND TAKE MULTIPLE INJECTIONS FOR THIS TO CAUSE GREAT NOTICBLE LOSS OF BF


JUST MY .02