For the Evening vs AM trainers......

[JKurz1]

What does your meal plan look like for each of these plans? Some days I train late, so I get 5 meals in and then two shakes postworkout...no real meals, but oats are in one of my shakes and then cottage cheese is in the prebed...seems to work ok, with a mix of carbs and protein in each of the 4 meals prior

But when I train in the am, first thing, there is no way I can eat first. Do you typically taper off carbs as the day progresses?

 

[cityhick]

What does your meal plan look like for each of these plans? Some days I train late, so I get 5 meals in and then two shakes postworkout...no real meals, but oats are in one of my shakes and then cottage cheese is in the prebed...seems to work ok, with a mix of carbs and protein in each of the 4 meals prior

But when I train in the am, first thing, there is no way I can eat first. Do you typically taper off carbs as the day progresses?

I dont think its a good idea to lift heavy without having anything to eat before. Your body NEEDS carbs and calories to lift. Now cardio is great in the AM without food because youll only be burning fat instead of calories. I notice if I dont eat enough during the day how much weaker I will be. Get some muscle milk and drink it in the morning beofre a workout. I often have plenty of ANPB and Whey for meals.... long as your getting in your vitamins/Cals/Protien/Carbs/Fiber/etc your fine.

 

[JKurz1]

Couldnt imagine a mm before training....fats and mcts would destroy me....when do you typically incorporate it? What does your overall meal plan look like?

 

[cityhick]

Really a muscle milk with some skim and ice in a blender would smooth my stomach in the morning after taking some T-Rex. And my overall meal plan changed recently because of me starting AS. So its basiccly eat clean 6 times a day with high protien. its pretty easy. Back when I was being real strict I would sometimes wake up a hour early eat some eggs and go back to sleep for another hour then hit the gym. I hate AM training. I workout out no early then 6 now.

 

[jpt]

when you wake up your muscles are starving for nutrients...the worst thing you can do is lift on an empty stomach first thing in the morning...wake up like 30 minutes earlier then normal and drink a shake...

 

[JKurz1]

Really a muscle milk with some skim and ice in a blender would smooth my stomach in the morning after taking some T-Rex. And my overall meal plan changed recently because of me starting AS. So its basiccly eat clean 6 times a day with high protien. its pretty easy. Back when I was being real strict I would sometimes wake up a hour early eat some eggs and go back to sleep for another hour then hit the gym. I hate AM training. I workout out no early then 6 now.

SO WORKING OUT AT 6PM, HOW do you structure you meals? 4 before, 2 after?
What are your stats?

 

[cityhick]

I dont really plan my meals around my workout. Its the other way around for me. I eat every 2-3 hours. Perporitonally to my diet. For example. I need to get in approx 4000 cals a day, thats approx 670 cals a meal. So I go to the fridge and start picking out things that are high protien/carbs/Cals. So I would pick out maybe a half pound of lean beef, wheat buns, and maybe have some whey with it. Then when it comes around 6 the meal before I eat plenty of carbs and high in protien. ANPB sadwich and whey works well. Then when I feel that I am ready mentally and my stomach is chilled I leave. That might be 6 Might be 7 might be 9 if I have to take a nap.

My stats. are 194 lbs. About 16-17%BF 5'8 And workin on it. This is not for someone that is wanting to go in competition....

 

[cwick0]

What does your meal plan look like for each of these plans? Some days I train late, so I get 5 meals in and then two shakes postworkout...no real meals, but oats are in one of my shakes and then cottage cheese is in the prebed...seems to work ok, with a mix of carbs and protein in each of the 4 meals prior

But when I train in the am, first thing, there is no way I can eat first. Do you typically taper off carbs as the day progresses?

Whats up kurz?

I see your still focusing on that diet. Havent u mastered it already, lol.

Its been a while since ive been on or hitting the weights, just started destroying them again.

wick

 

[cityhick]

Well it could be for competition I guess if you cut down the cals about 1700 and ate real clean. Thats just how I do it..... some people work better on strict routines. I work better on how I feel and what I feel that I need.

 

[JKurz1]

I dont really plan my meals around my workout. Its the other way around for me. I eat every 2-3 hours. Perporitonally to my diet. For example. I need to get in approx 4000 cals a day, thats approx 670 cals a meal. So I go to the fridge and start picking out things that are high protien/carbs/Cals. So I would pick out maybe a half pound of lean beef, wheat buns, and maybe have some whey with it. Then when it comes around 6 the meal before I eat plenty of carbs and high in protien. ANPB sadwich and whey works well. Then when I feel that I am ready mentally and my stomach is chilled I leave. That might be 6 Might be 7 might be 9 if I have to take a nap.

My stats. are 194 lbs. About 16-17%BF 5'8 And workin on it. This is not for someone that is wanting to go in competition....

so, gimme an example....say yesterday

 

[cityhick]

Well what are your goals?
What are your stats?
I rember seeing you in the AS forum a while back?

 

[JKurz1]

6'2, 175lb, 8%

Cardio Every Am 3.5 Mph, 8.0 Incline - Just To Ramp Hunger

Train 5-6 Days Per Week,


Meal Food Amount Calories Protein Carbs Fat

630-700 Oats 1/2 Cup
1 Scoop Protein
Egg Whites 1 Cup

10-1030 Whole Wheat Bread 2 Pieces
Tuna 2 Cans


1230-130 Chiken 4oz
Beef 4 Oz
Ww Pasta 2oz
Greens Large

5:30 Train

7:30:00 2 Scoops Whey, 1/2 Cup Oats

900
1/2 Cup Dry Curd Cottage Cheese
1 Scoop Casein
1/2 Cup Skim
1 Sf Jello Cup

 

[cityhick]

Diet looks clean bt what are the goals? Do you want to get massive? Stronger? Leaner?

 

[JKurz1]

Hell, I weight 175 soaking wet........I need some mass......but hate to lose the good ol abs!!!! Cant be enough food, now that I look at it.....

 

[cityhick]

Yea... not enough food is right. Well depending how much mass you want to put on will also effect your abs. I mean eat 4000 clean cals a day and you most likely will loose strong definition but still have a strong outline. It depends how your body reatcs to food. I know a kid that can eat 4000 cals and barely put on a pound. But yea. I would up the cals. Try getting in 3500 and see how your body reacts.

 

[JKurz1]

can I see a sample of your diet???

 

[cityhick]

haha The one I am on right now? Or the one when I was strict.

 

[JKurz1]

Both...and at 15% or higher, why arent you STRICT!

 

[cityhick]

Cause my goal is not to have a 6 pack. My goal is to be powerful and solid. Maybe 10-14%. People lift and diet for different goals... ill get my old diet asap. My new diet like I said is not planned out. 6 Meals High in protien. Clean as possible. Im putting on as much mass as possible on my first cycle.

 

[JKurz1]

Just curious what a typical day......like what was yesterday?????

 

[bigdho]

Damn bro dont worry about abs, you can always get lean after you gain 20-30lbs of mass. starving kids in africa have abs......so what. If you pack on another 30lbs of pure mass and you are 200+ lb guy with abs think of how much better that would look.....IMO youd graduate from cardio bunny to BBer.

 

[Anthrax Invasion]

What does your meal plan look like for each of these plans? Some days I train late, so I get 5 meals in and then two shakes postworkout...no real meals, but oats are in one of my shakes and then cottage cheese is in the prebed...seems to work ok, with a mix of carbs and protein in each of the 4 meals prior

But when I train in the am, first thing, there is no way I can eat first. Do you typically taper off carbs as the day progresses?

Is there a reason you're still asking the same, moronic fucking questions from years and years ago?

Do you ever learn?

Do you understand how to fucking gain weight? My little cousin weighs more than you.

CALORIES IN VS. CALORIES OUT SMALL FRY

 

[CrazyK]

When cutting I just focus the carbs around my training. Low GI Carb/Protein 1-2 hours before work out, Dextrose/Whey right after my last set, and Low GI Carb/Protein 1-2 hours after work out. Rest of the day it's Fats/Egg-Casien Protein.