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For an Short Burst Cycle what steroids would you recomend?

primo.carnera

primo.carnera

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Hi I'm looking for steroids to do a short burst cycle.

Length of cycle: only 30 days / 4 weeks

I planned do include 2 weeks of dbol 60mg
and 2 weeks 80mg turinabol

but I need a injectable to stack this with.. whos got a short ester.. what would you recomend?
 
ohh damn sorry I knew that.. I'm just abit tired hehehe

24years old
trained 5 days a week since I was 16 years old..
length ca 175
weight 98kg

have done some cycles before but not on high doses..
 
test suspension. but your wrong about needing an inject. dbol is a damn good steroid alone. so is tbol.
 
I just want to gain muscle and build up some parts of my body that is not in proportion to the rest of the body :)
ohh Ive heard that even if it should be short cycles like 3-4 weeks i should include injects... but you say its great with an oral only when its just a short cycle? :)
what do you think about the first 2 weeks on dbol 60mg ed and the last 2 weeks on tbol 80mg ed? any thoughts on that

and ofc I have a proper pct with both nolva and clomid included..
 
Id just run the T'bol for the 4 wk length , you can get alot done with t'bol .


Brad.
 
Thanks guys for help!!
Im thinking of splitting the tbols to 40mg at morning and another 40 before the eavning gym... I know the halflife is like 16 hours but im looking for that extra edge and pump while hiting the weights..

I'm doing 1000mg of ala everyday :)
drining berrys etc.. and also for pct im taking LIV 52 toghether with ALA..

taking ala during cycle is not going to reduce the effect of the steroids right?? thats my i will wait with the liv52 cause i read it will reduce the take of the steroids..
 
Tbol or Dbol are great for a short cycle, but adding an injectable is fine too.

The thing is... the body parts that are normally less responsive will still be less responsive even while "on."
 
Nelson Montana said:
Tbol or Dbol are great for a short cycle, but adding an injectable is fine too.

The thing is... the body parts that are normally less responsive will still be less responsive even while "on."
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yep. steroids wont bring up lagging body parts. depending on the reason their lagging it could get worst.

running test with it, just tbol, just dbol, half and half with both will all work fine no matter how you do it.

you proposed plan in your last post would be fine.
 
primo.carnera said:
Thanks guys for help!!
Im thinking of splitting the tbols to 40mg at morning and another 40 before the eavning gym... I know the halflife is like 16 hours but im looking for that extra edge and pump while hiting the weights..

I'm doing 1000mg of ala everyday :)
drining berrys etc.. and also for pct im taking LIV 52 toghether with ALA..

taking ala during cycle is not going to reduce the effect of the steroids right?? thats my i will wait with the liv52 cause i read it will reduce the take of the steroids..
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You will need a better PCT than that mate , is that all your going to run ?



Brad.
 
No man I will run Nolva and Clomid for like 4 weeks as a pct like i wrote before :) but I also take liv52 during pct instead of during cycle..
but the ALA I will run year around.. like ala very much :)

Thanks Joe D I really appreciate it!
 
PCT needs to be stronger is what he is saying. Would include Post Cycle and HCGenerate aswell. Would drop the dbol IMO not worth it for 2 weeks although others might disagree. Stick to the tbol for 4-5weeks. tbol at 80mgs will see you wonders, with some test in there even better.
 
HarryHarry said:
PCT needs to be stronger is what he is saying. Would include Post Cycle and HCGenerate aswell. Would drop the dbol IMO not worth it for 2 weeks although others might disagree. Stick to the tbol for 4-5weeks. tbol at 80mgs will see you wonders, with some test in there even better.
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Can't I just take higher doses of Clomid and Nolva after the last oral tab and fallowing 4 weeks after that as a pct together with Tribulus Terretris, ALA, Liv52, Omega3, Aminos and protein?
 
Each product does different things to the body. During your cycle your body will change alot of factors. Clomid and nolva are good but just the two will not get every factor back to normal.
 
my trainbuddy says that cycles shorter than 6 weeks doesn't need the hcg
that clomid and nolva will be fine for a short cycle.. is there any other supplement I could put in the pct then? maybe ANIMAL STACK 2 or something I can find in the stores?
because I don't think I would be able to get hcg for a time..
 
If you decide on your cycle it will be easy for us to recommend the products you need and where best to buy them. Let us know mate
 
I'd stick with tbol alone at 80mg. That'll give you great results, at 4 or 6 weeks. And nolva by itself CAN be enough for PCT. I've never done a PCT that was longer than 3 weeks or anything other than just clomid and nolva, even after heavy, 6-month cycles, and I've always fully recovered within those 3 weeks. But everyone is different. If you've recovered fine on that PCT before, keep using it... otherwise, take these guys advice and add in what they suggest. As for the cycle... it's fine with just tbol, but you could add test prop if you're looking for more mass, tren or masteron if you're looking for strength and hardness. I would probably go with test prop if you go for anything, it's cheap, simple, and will complement the tbol and keep your test levels high. 50-100mg/ed. Stop it about a week before you stop the orals.
 
HarryHarry said:
Each product does different things to the body. During your cycle your body will change alot of factors. Clomid and nolva are good but just the two will not get every factor back to normal.
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plenty of people have successfully recovered with nolva and clomid on larger cycles than yours. i personally think adding a few of the otc's makes it better. if you dont want to wind up on trt i would run a better pct and stay off for a while after the cycle.
 
what are otcs.. sorry language problems :)

I'm planning of staying off for at least 3 months but I guess it will be 4-5 months off until next cycle..
thanks for your help and opinions!
 
primo.carnera said:
what are otcs.. sorry language problems :)

I'm planning of staying off for at least 3 months but I guess it will be 4-5 months off until next cycle..
thanks for your help and opinions!
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OTC= Over The Counter ,legal and for sale at your local vitamin Sup or I hate to say it places like GNC .

Good question mate I'm glad you asked .

Brad.
 
Ohh thanks hesnobradpitt for clearing that up :) I was asuming that but you have to be sure ;)
I will take all the tips and do something creative with it! thanks again everybody for helping a mate out!
 
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