For a First Cycle.....Something "light".

[GrandMaster]

any reccomendations?

looking to gain a little more...
i dont want to pump myself up with alot of shit.

if anyone has a suggestion and link to read up on ,
it would be greatly appreciated
thanks

 

[swordfish151]

any reccomendations?

looking to gain a little more...
i dont want to pump myself up with alot of shit.

if anyone has a suggestion and link to read up on ,
it would be greatly appreciated
thanks

light cycle...test only 250mgs - 500mgs...thats it.

 

[drrman]

light cycle...test only 250mgs - 500mgs...thats it.

agreed, i would run 500mg/week, with a good anti e

i say no need to skimp out on your first cycle as it will always be your best one, your receptors have never seen gear and you alway gain like hell, so might as well make the most of it and gain as much as possible though.

my first cycle was 500mg sust/week, 400mg deca, and 35mg dball/day

i wouldn't change a thing about it, i gained about 30lbs and kept over 20

 

[GrandMaster]

agreed, i would run 500mg/week, with a good anti e

i say no need to skimp out on your first cycle as it will always be your best one, your receptors have never seen gear and you alway gain like hell, so might as well make the most of it and gain as much as possible though.

my first cycle was 500mg sust/week, 400mg deca, and 35mg dball/day

i wouldn't change a thing about it, i gained about 30lbs and kept over 20

thats great!

when u guys talk about a good "anti-e"
what do you mean exactly?

 

[cityhick]

I sure hope you lift consistantly and have a diet in the works.

 

[GrandMaster]

I sure hope you lift consistantly and have a diet in the works.

well obviously!

 

[drrman]

thats great!

when u guys talk about a good "anti-e"
what do you mean exactly?

anti estrogen...

something to block the conversion of testosterone to estrogen, arimidex, letrozole, aromasin, or AIFM

this will keep the water retention off of you, make your gains visible and make you look much better, along with keeping you from getting bitch tits

 

[cityhick]

thats great!

when u guys talk about a good "anti-e"
what do you mean exactly?[/QUOTE]

Thats my problem... it doesnt sound like you have done enough research. Its alright bro just read the stickys and watch the forums for awhile. Dont go injecting shit into muscles without knowing what the fuck they do or how they work.

 

[swordfish151]

thats great!

when u guys talk about a good "anti-e"
what do you mean exactly?

for a cycle that light, a-dex or AIFM will work.

Anastrozole (Arimidex) is the aromatase inhibitor of choice. The drug is appropriately used when using substantial amounts of aromatizing products in rat research. Arimidex does not have the side effects of aminoglutethimide (Cytadren) and can achieve a high degree of estrogen blockade, much moreso than Cytadren. It is possible to reduce estrogen too much with Arimidex, and for this reason blood tests, or less preferably salivary tests, should be taken after the first week of research to determine if the dosing is correct - usually by looking at the rate one can tell.

As an aromatase inhibitor, Arimidex's mechanism of action -- blocking conversion of aromatizable steroids to estrogen -- is in contrast to the mechanism of action of anti-estrogens such as clomiphene (Clomid) or tamoxifen (Nolvadex), which block estrogen receptors in some tissues, and activate estrogen receptors in others.

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AIFM

AI for Men uses ATD, a natural steroidal aromatase inhibitor, that is better suited for men than the most commonly used AI’s like arimidex and letrozole which were designed for women. It provides adrenal and immune supports as well as cortisol suppression through the addition of Dehydroepiandrosterone. This product is designed for men only.

 

[fergie]

for 500mgs of test I would say stay away from the letro....... you wont have much estrogen conversion so maybe use a little bit of arimidex. The only reason I say that is because letro will kill your sex drive and it also thins your hair, its a strong drug

 

[GrandMaster]

thats great!

when u guys talk about a good "anti-e"
what do you mean exactly?[/QUOTE]

Thats my problem... it doesnt sound like you have done enough research. Its alright bro just read the stickys and watch the forums for awhile. Dont go injecting shit into muscles without knowing what the fuck they do or how they work.

thats y im asking bro!

links and read ups on what YOU GUYS think would be best for me!
im not going to shoot up ANYTHING untill i feel my knowledge is adequite!
right now, my knowledge base is minimal.....so im looking for some readups and whatnot.

 

[GrandMaster]

Test-e and AIFM sound ok?

is it in my best intrest to combine the 2? together?

 

[jomi822]

thats y im asking bro!

links and read ups on what YOU GUYS think would be best for me!
im not going to shoot up ANYTHING untill i feel my knowledge is adequite!
right now, my knowledge base is minimal.....so im looking for some readups and whatnot.

the classic first cycle is 500mgs of testosterone cypionate or testosterone enanthate for 10-12 weeks with a dbol jumpstart lasting 4 weeks in the beginning. Since you say youd like to go light, knocking off the dbol might be a good idea.

however if youre not familiar with anti-e's perhaps you should spend a few more weeks doing research just to make sure you have everything in order.

things you might want to consider on the check list are

what are the side effects of the particular drug i am using (all steroids act differently)?
how badly will it shut down my natural testosterone production?
am i familiar with the injection procedure?
what type of anti estrogens will i need (if any) with the steroid i am using?
what will my post cycle therapy look like?
what is an abcesses and how do i treat it if it occurs?
what should my diet be like to get the results that i want?

once you can answer these questions and know what youre doing by all means cycle away, but make damn sure you know whats up as you are calling all the shots.

 

[NickyE3]

I am planning my first cycle to be:
250mg Test En per week for 10 weeks
50mg Winny ED for the last 4 weeks (6-10)
.5mg Arimidex EOD
and of course the proper PCT

 

[GrandMaster]

the classic first cycle is 500mgs of testosterone cypionate or testosterone enanthate for 10-12 weeks with a dbol jumpstart lasting 4 weeks in the beginning. Since you say youd like to go light, knocking off the dbol might be a good idea.

however if youre not familiar with anti-e's perhaps you should spend a few more weeks doing research just to make sure you have everything in order.

things you might want to consider on the check list are

what are the side effects of the particular drug i am using (all steroids act differently)?
how badly will it shut down my natural testosterone production?
am i familiar with the injection procedure?
what type of anti estrogens will i need (if any) with the steroid i am using?
what will my post cycle therapy look like?
what is an abcesses and how do i treat it if it occurs?
what should my diet be like to get the results that i want?

once you can answer these questions and know what youre doing by all means cycle away, but make damn sure you know whats up as you are calling all the shots.

where can i find some read-ups on proper injections?

 

[tin2]

Injections aren't the hard part.. Just make sure u have a good PCT.

 

[GrandMaster]

yes, what is this "PCT" u guys speak of?

 

[swordfish151]

injections:

http://www.howtodoinjections.com/im.html

PCT: (spend some time here)

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=81

 

[GrandMaster]

now does it make a difference what part of your body u inject??

 

[GrandMaster]

bump

 

[NickyE3]

no
intramuscular is the only part that counts
keep up the reading

 

[cityhick]

now does it make a difference what part of your body u inject??

The only thing that is going to make a difference is how much pain will come with the shot. I shoot in my glute.... doesnt feel like anything. Exspect to be sore after your first for a couple days. Then its smooth sailing. PCT=Post Cycle Therapy. Read the post cyce therapy stickys they are long but you will get a good idea on what they are and how they work. Get a platiunum Membership and use the search and READ. It will take awhile but it will be worth it.

 

[GrandMaster]

working on all of that cityhick