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somedayXLmuscles

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Hey EF brothers I'm excited to run my first cycle with TREN, looking for any advice/input on my cycle.

I'm almost 25, 5'6, 175 lbs, 9.5% bf right now. Bench 350 Squat 455 Deadlift 505. Powerlifted a few years, bodybuilding much longer. I ran my first cycle in March, 500mg test E for 10 weeks, I have run orals before. My diet is very clean 3500-4000 calories, training 6/7 days a week on a 4 day split. Take days off if I feel I need them.

What I'm thinking is:
Wk 1-10 Test E 600 mg a week
Wk 1-10 Tren E (dosage recommendations?)

Optional kickstarter: Day 1-30 anadrol 50mg ED

PCT: Clomid/HCgenerate
On cycle support: n2guard, possible arimidex? input

I do have some letro on hand just in case.
 
Impressive stats!

No need for that much test.

There's a never ending debate over higher tren/lower test or vice versa. I like a lower dose of test, personally.

Test 250 mg's/week
Tren 400 mg's/week

Arimidex is a much better choice than letro. Letro is going to have a slew of negative sides & is really for someone way far gone.

Caber or prami is typically run with tren as well.

Nicely set up and nice job paying your dues.
 
I highly rec Tren A for first go around with tren, if you need to abort its out much quicker. it can be very harsh on some.

good luck
 
Start with The acetate ester..as mentioned this is your first run with a hormone that's considered to be the harshest steroid you can take. If you run into some serious sides you can drop it and it will be out of your system in no time. Start at 200mg ew or 50mg EOD ans up from there if needed.
 
somedayXLmuscles said:
Arimidex and caber both you're saying or just most people run caber? Thanks I'm pumped to start up hopefully today or tomorrow
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Both, they do different things.

A-dex is to keep estrogen under control. You don't want too much OR TOO LITTLE estrogen.

Caber or prami is used to keep prolactin @ bay.
 
EZ_E said:
Both, they do different things.

A-dex is to keep estrogen under control. You don't want too much OR TOO LITTLE estrogen.

Caber or prami is used to keep prolactin @ bay.
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great advice here. exactly! : )
atleast have some prami on hand, but deff use the AI during
 
400 mg a week Mon and Thurs, I had great results , i had no serious sides till week 16 ,started getting pretty mean , sides for me were heavy sweating , little broken sleep , I was pissy and hungry all the time
 
somedayXLmuscles said:
What are your thoughts on running both at 300 mg/wk? Will that be enough tren to still see solid results?
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Absloutely! Less is more, I'm about your size and have had success with doses like that. Diet & training will be the determining factor.
 
Diet and hard work is everything , I agree 100%, if I leave the gym and can still hold my water jug to my mouth , I didn't work hard enough. Diet , don't eat anything processed and that isn't easy in this day and age, juice is great but its nowhere near magic. Get the most out of your gear by working hard and pump till you puke bro , heavy weight won't get you what you want , especially on tren , start moderate weight first set then go light and rep out till you think your skin is gonna tear
 
Thanks fellas first week ended up falling around 350 350 need to get larger cc syringe or I'll have to pin each separately which is just dumb if I can do both at once. I'll keep a post of how things turn out!
 
somedayXLmuscles said:
Thanks fellas first week ended up falling around 350 350 need to get larger cc syringe or I'll have to pin each separately which is just dumb if I can do both at once. I'll keep a post of how things turn out!
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Tren A is EOD meaning 350 a week of Tren A is 100mg (1ml in a normal TrenA bottle) every other day. As most Tren A comes 100mg/ml

Tren can be done in a 27 g needle with no problem. Test C you need more like 24g.
So you could do something like Test C once per week in a 24g needle and Tren A eod in a 27g needle.
That would make it so you only have 1 fat needle per week.
 
I'm pinning twice a week test E and tren e. Last weekend ended up at 350 mg each but this week I want to move to 400 mg each. I need larger syringe because mine are only 1 cc so a 2 or 3 cc would allow me to do both test and tren simultaneously instead of separately
 
somedayXLmuscles said:
I'm pinning twice a week test E and tren e. Last weekend ended up at 350 mg each but this week I want to move to 400 mg each. I need larger syringe because mine are only 1 cc so a 2 or 3 cc would allow me to do both test and tren simultaneously instead of separately
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How far in are you on your tren? Any quick temper sides? And what is your age?
 
#1DIGGER said:
How far in are you on your tren? Any quick temper sides? And what is your age?
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I'm almost 25. I'm 3 pins in, temper hasn't been an issue yet but I would say my tension is higher than normal so temper may come later, but I think as long as I hit the gym at my Normal times I'll be able to workout the rage that builds all day
 
somedayXLmuscles said:
One side though. Insomnia. Even though I'm completely exhausted and tired, sleep eludes me
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That is something I always used to experience with tren.

Somotomax helps.
 
What dosage should I be running this adex at? I've never ran it before with other cycles but I'd rather be safe than sorry with tren. .25-.5 mg ed or eod?
 
somedayXLmuscles said:
One side though. Insomnia. Even though I'm completely exhausted and tired, sleep eludes me
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I have ran many tren cycles... Quit due to age...lack of sleep and night sweats are the worst part of using tren... But I have to admit...now that I am a firm member of tren anonymous TA ..lol.. There were a lot of anger and anxiety issues as well that I did not recognized until I stopped. Whatever you do don't combine with alcohol or you will wake up in jail... I plead the 5th...lol

Good luck


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depotgang said:
I have ran many tren cycles... Quit due to age...lack of sleep and night sweats are the worst part of using tren... But I have to admit...now that I am a firm member of tren anonymous TA ..lol.. There were a lot of anger and anxiety issues as well that I did not recognized until I stopped. Whatever you do don't combine with alcohol or you will wake up in jail... I plead the 5th...lol

Good luck


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I agree , I didn't notice my anger and attitude while on tren , I got off , now I'm back on , just gonna try to be careful this time , use up the few weeks I have left of it
 
Has anyone added GW to their cycle to try and combat the cardiovascular endurance side effects? If so what was your experience, I'm thinking about trying it out
 
somedayXLmuscles said:
Has anyone added GW to their cycle to try and combat the cardiovascular endurance side effects? If so what was your experience, I'm thinking about trying it out
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I believe that higher doses of tren is when you should start to see cardio issues. I'm running 400 a week and have no carido issues. However, I am running clen.
 
Just wanted to post a quick update while I've got some time. While normally anything inside of 4 weeks I wouldn't relate to an enanthate like my test E, I must say tren E has been an experience for me. Is 2.5 weeks plausible in your experiences for tren E to have an effect already? A little over 2.5 weeks in (actually 3rd week starts tomorrow) and I feel as if tren is really starting to take hold. I'm down right around 1% bf, up 5 lbs, and strength is already increasing significantly. I hit 425 squat yesterday for 3 reps, while not impressive I've been struggling the last month to hit 405 more than once, and it was after sets of 15-20 up until 365. Not only that on incline bench press I managed to throw up 275 which has always been a weak area for me even on test, 245/250 is the most I've ever accomplished incline, yet I did 245 3 times also after sets of 10-15 up to 205#'s. So what I'm getting at here is tren E and test E has been unreal and its only just beginning! I've been building up dosage week by week to assess my tolerance with the new chemical and this week I will finally be up to 400 tren e/400 test E which is what I was planning on running the rest of the cycle. Thanks for the advice so far EF members! No sides so far besides definitely irritability, and insomnia (getting better). Been running adex for the last 6 days. .5mg eod to prevent any gyno proactively. On test E only I was pretty sensitive and had small gyno problem but not until week 5 and I was running 500-600 mgs wk. Anyways, all is good on my end so far. Thanks again EF bros
 
Adex is not cutting it for AI. Got some gyno starting to set in pretty good. Recommendations? I've been doing adex at .5 eod. Letro? Or would prami/caber knock it down since idk if it's from the tren or test. Test is what I assumed as test can do it to me at even 500 wk. Tren is associated with different form of gyno though right?
 
As you have had previous gyno issues with test it could be a flare up of this or prolactin levels are high. .5mg dostinex e3d alongside your adex .5mg eod should serve your purpose
 
Hey guys wanted to update my results. First my weight fluctuated down as well as my bf% I got down to 165lbs and 7%bf. Then even with calories sitting at around 2500-3000 (nothing extreme) I gradually climbed up to currently 180 lbs with bf% being 5.5%. Few weeks into my pct, holding strength and weight very well. My strength has actually continued to climb even being a little into my pct and my weight has remained very consistent at 180 with now eating only 2400 calories the last 2 weeks, very low carb, cutting up very nicely and not losing size so no complaints. Ended up running most of the cycle at 450 tren E and 300 test E and had almost no sides once I found that dosage. Overall tren E/test E has been a fantastic experience and I recommend it for sure. I haven't tested my maxes since pre cycle but I can hit my previous maxes for 3-6 reps each on all of them and do it with better form. The biggest benefit besides strength has been the bodyfat loss and the amount of size I've packed on everywhere while losing that fat. Great experience!
 
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