First time tren advice

[Oliol]

Okay guys, here we go:

Age: 23 years
Height: 6feet 2, (188cm)
Weight: 200 pounds (90kg)
BF: 10-11%
Diet: Balanced diet, a lot of fish and meat
Training history: Done weightlifting last 6 years, workout daily with some rest days. Got a pretty good physique going but I want more (dont we all?).

Last cycle: 500mg test a week for 10 weeks, gained some, but not as much as expected. Got no side effects on that cycle. (Blood tests before, during and after cycle, everything is ok)

What I have aquired for this cycle:
20ml Tren Ace
20ml Test Enth
90 20mg Nolvadex
A good amount of Arimidex

My goals with this cycle:
Gain some size, but no need for massive gains as I am also looking to cut some fat. Aiming for a good diet with around 3000 calories a day, but everything will be clean for the sake of burning fat!

This is how I planned my cycle this far:

8 weeks of Tren ace 50mg injected EOD
8 weeks of test enth with 50-100mg injected every 6 day


Thank you very much for comments and feedbacks, I greatly appriciate it

 

[digit0x]

You need caber/prami for Tren

 

[Mr. Chicago]

It's not an absolute must, but many will agree that it's good to at least have it on hand. I find that if I keep my estro in check I have no problem with prolactin, maybe I'm just lucky too though, and I still think your test is a bit low bro but I already told you this so do whatever you think is best.

 

[Oliol]

Thank you for the respond guys, how much test would you guys reccomend?

 

[TheKid7]

I personally like running 200-250 mg of Test a week on a 400-500mg tren cycle but can fluctuate based on your tren dosage. Take the advice of caber or prami just in case man Tren can do crazy ass things

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

week 1-6:
2 caps oxandrovar/day
250mgs test enan/week
50mgs TA EOD
20mgs cardarine/day
12.5mgs aromasin/day
N2Guard - 2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM

week 7-10:

500mgs test enan/week
50mgs TA EOD
20mgs cardarine/day
12.5mgs aromasin/day
N2Guard - 2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM

 

[25homes]

I think I'd up test to 300mg min imo

 

[Oliol]

I was thinking about only doing a 8 week cycle due to other reasons. I was looking for doing small amounts of the test enth due to I do not want that much of a bloat.

What do you guys think about:

Week 1-8
50mg Tren Ace EOD
150mg Test enan once a week
Arimidex 0.5mg E3D
N2Guard - 2 caps 3 times a day

I appriciate all the great feedback! Thanks a lot guys!

 

[MaxxReps]

Regardless of how much test you decide on, I would consider it twice a week - especially since you are injecting tren EOD. Just add the test to the syringe twice during the week.

 

[Mr. Chicago]

Regardless of how much test you decide on, I would consider it twice a week - especially since you are injecting tren EOD. Just add the test to the syringe twice during the week.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[fizzisnumerouno]

Some things I've noticed one other logs and from personal experience: have T3 on hand and Ron at 25 µg to keep your thyroid activated at normal levels. Run n2 guard, run glutamine at 25 g, run GW to counter the endurance side effects, try to keep your carbohydrates no lower than 100 g on non-lifting days and no lower than 200 g on lifting days that's minimum and try to get. As much food in you earlier compared to later you want to have that mostly digested when you are laying down otherwise you could be looking for trouble those are just my experiences and a few of the things I have noticed on other blogs. And I would not run test any higher than 200 per week

 

[Oliol]

Week 1-8
50mg Tren Ace EOD
100mg Test enan twice a week
Arimidex 0.5mg E3D
N2Guard - 2 caps 3 times a day


What do you guys think about it now? The dosages, does this seem like a good first time tren cycle? Thanks

 

[fizzisnumerouno]

Week 1-8

50mg Tren Ace EOD

100mg Test enan twice a week

Arimidex 0.5mg E3D

N2Guard - 2 caps 3 times a day





What do you guys think about it now? The dosages, does this seem like a good first time tren cycle? Thanks

I would recommend test prop over the e it will be more convenient and you will have a Nother short as they're in there. Also I would have some Dostinex from www.ag-guys.com in there. You do not want prolactin gynecomastia. Other than that I am a fan of your cycle brother. You could always start pinning your test four weeks prior to your trend. That is if you already have it on hand.

 

[Wizzbike]

Asumung you are using slin pins for the tren? Hence only test through big needle once a week?
If not and you worried about bloat then go test prop and do together EOD
That's quite a low tren cycle really but a very safe first time trial. caber is great I love it but prob not essential on that low dose. It's only the test that will aromatise so arimi 0.5mg E2D or E3D will be fine
I always keep test less than tren def helps reduce sides. But if your only pinning 50mg EOD that's only 175mg tren a week!! Not a lot

 

[coach.net]

8 weeks of test enth with 50-100mg injected every 6 day ???? first that not enough why are you want to inject the same amount that your body produce ? its worthless, second 8 weeks its not enough on test-e.TREN WILL SHUT YOU DOWN AS HELL you need at least 700mg of test per week. And you need some caber in hand. If you decide to go with something like 100 or 300 mg of test per week you can say bye to your dick for a long time

 

[Mr. Chicago]

^^^ You're an idiot!

 

[wootoom]

8 weeks of test enth with 50-100mg injected every 6 day ???? first that not enough why are you want to inject the same amount that your body produce ? its worthless, second 8 weeks its not enough on test-e.TREN WILL SHUT YOU DOWN AS HELL you need at least 700mg of test per week. And you need some caber in hand. If you decide to go with something like 100 or 300 mg of test per week you can say bye to your dick for a long time

Ya and adding way more test will help everything....terrible advice


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[Wizzbike]

Test is only used alongside tren to maintain sexual function and health it's not the the muscle builder in this mix.
At 5 times the power of test u want to let it have all the receptor space possible not clog up receptors with a weaker compound.
All extra test will do it heighten estrogen and so increase possible sides gyno risks from progestin based tren!
TRT dose is adequate with tren caber will fix any libido issues by lowering prolactin if they arise or even proviron to further enhance bedroom fun and aid estro control but not extra test.