First day of my new "short cycle"

[Nelson Montana]

Yes Nelson, the purpose of Helladrol is to kickstart things, plus I have injectable anavar as well as quite a high dose of Test. So would you suggest that I extend this to 6 weeks, based on my goals above? Wouldn't 6 weeks shut you down as hard as an 8 week cycle? I have read a few reasonable claims that with a 4 week cycle, shutdown is minimal and I could recover without the use of SERMS, or at least just Clomid.

No, 6 weeks shouldn't shut you down but it will suppress you -- even a 2 week cycle will suppress a little but you can bounce back from it with the right supplmeents. Another reason for short cycles is to hold onto the gains. You can't hold 20 pounds of enhanced muscle while "natty." But you can solidify 5 pounds of muscle with natural training. That's why I'm bigger than I've ever been and I don;t cycle any more. (Okay, I did a little 6 weeker before the show in my pic). Whereas most guys who cycle hard, go off and can't hold it and get disgusted and quit.

If you go to 6 weeks, take 12 weeks off before your next cycle. Yeah, that's a long time but the idea is to make gains naturally and just have a little taste of enhancement now and then. It's a very different philosophy from what most guys do today.

Best of luck. And enjoy!

 

[silentrevolver]

^^ Thanks Nelson, appreciate the advice

 

[Russianbear_NY]

Not putting anyone down, I respect what Nelson Montana had accomplished, I am 46 been doing gear for about 20 years off and on, I started doing short cycles like Bill Roberts suggests for a year already 2 weeks on and 3 weeks off, I love it Gaining a solid pound and keeping it, been using prop only, sometimes only ostarine. And I tell you I still shut down, but rebound so quick. So from my honest experience the 2 weekeners do work.