First Cycle

[Abelskeever]

Hey all!

I'm starting my first cycle EVER and im not quite sure if the supplements I want are the supplements I need...

I'm 5'3", 151 lbs and 22 y/o

I was wanting to try Testosterone Cypionate and Dianabol
For the first 4 weeks I was gonna take 400 mgs a week of the test and 20 mgs a day of the dbol
then continue with only 400 mgs of test a week for 8 more weeks...

I heard the first cycle is the best so I wanted to get the most possible out of it...
I realize that I'm pretty young and I do understand the precautions and all but really I just want to bulk up bad!

Edit: Will be taking .5mgs of Arimidex a week
pct will be only Nolvadex going 40mgs a day for 2 weeks then down to 20mgs a day for 2 more weeks

 

[ALIN]

Hey all!

I'm starting my first cycle EVER and im not quite sure if the supplements I want are the supplements I need...

I'm 5'3", 151 lbs and 22 y/o

I was wanting to try Testosterone Cypionate and Dianabol
For the first 4 weeks I was gonna take 400 mgs a week of the test and 20 mgs a day of the dbol
then continue with only 400 mgs of test a week for 8 more weeks...

I heard the first cycle is the best so I wanted to get the most possible out of it...
I realize that I'm pretty young and I do understand the precautions and all but really I just want to bulk up bad!

For a newbie thats not a bad cycle at all. I would use a small dose of an AI (ARIMIDEX,LETROZOLE,AROMASIN) to prevent
any estrogen problems. Also dont forget a solid PCT after the cycle (CLOMID/NOLVA)

 

[Abelskeever]

alright thanx! any advice on how many mgs of arimidex i should take a week?

 

[tical]

I think that is too much Arimidex. Try .5mg E3D and increase if you notice symptoms of high estrogen (itchy / sore nipples). Take it on the days you plan on injecting.

 

[Abelskeever]

will do thanx!

 

[TheN1ghtmare21]

Looks good I prefer beastdrol over dbol as a kickstart though!

 

[Nelson Montana]

Too harsh for a 1st cycle IMO. 12 weeks is too long. 5mgs of dex a day is too much. Nolvadex sucks. Clomid is a crapshoot.

 

[zedhed]

I agree with NM. Dump the dbol too dam toxic for a first cycle bro.
Also go here for your PCT,

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/very-best-pct-2010-right-here-712121.html

Good luck and enjoy!

 

[25homes]

I think that great first cycle I'd just keep adex on hand bro good possibility you won't even need it or may not need til last few weeks to pull off some water. Don't take unless needed can alter gains

 

[Essie]

What is your current diet like? How long have you been training? What does your training routine look like? % Bodyfat? These are all important factors to take into consideration. It is better to tweak your diet and training routine before considering AAS. The cycle you intend on taking doesn't look bad for a 1st cycle, however, you pct plan is of some concern to me. If you are going on a 12 week cycle it means that you are pumping your body full of exogenous testosterone for 12 weeks and then you need to consider the half-life periods of the test you are using, which always extends the period of exogenous steroid build up time to longer than just your cycle. Now this is going to cause a couple of things to happen to you once your cycle has ended and using Nolva as the only PCT is really not advisable. I would also urge you to follow ZedHead's link to the PCT protocol post. Personally I think that 400mg Test / wk is a bit high for a first cycle, I would start at 250 for the first cycle, then PCT. Following PCT stay off AAS completely for 12 wks ... look at Need2BuildMuscle.net for supplements to use while off cycle and then go up to 400mg / wk on your 2nd cycle. 20mg D-Bol is a safe dosage, but if I were a US citizen I would much rather go with BeastDrol.

 

[Abelskeever]

@nelson thats why im doing .5mgs of arimidex a week... and thanx all for the info! my diet is very good i eat very healthy as of now and as soon as i start my cycle im going to be taking in lots of protein... i have been training for 4 years and my routine is pretty harsh... idk my bodyfat %... I will start with 250 mgs of test instead of 400 for my first as essie recommended and will then move on... uploading pics soon...

EDIT- Switching to beastdrol aswell.

 

[Nelson Montana]

@nelson thats why im doing .5mgs of arimidex a week... and thanx all for the info! my diet is very good i eat very healthy as of now and as soon as i start my cycle im going to be taking in lots of protein... i have been training for 4 years and my routine is pretty harsh... idk my bodyfat %... I will start with 250 mgs of test instead of 400 for my first as essie recommended and will then move on... uploading pics soon...

EDIT- Switching to beastdrol aswell.

How are you planning on talking the dex? One dose a week? You're better off splitting it since the half life is 3 days.

 

[Essie]

I agree with Nelson on the Dex ... Mon + Thu is usually a safe split. Also split your Test injections - that way you won't have certain days where your levels are very high, and then 3 days after injection your levels start dropping and by day 7, when you inject again, your levels have dropped significantly and then there's another sudden spike following injection.

Good luck Bro, looking forward to seeing/reading how you progress.

 

[Abelskeever]

Will be splitting the arimidex in half as y'all said and taking E3D's or so... I will split up the test quite a bit aswell but im having trouble deciding between the BeastDrol and D-Bol. Beast sounds like it would be the best choice but im getting quite a few mixed reviews on it...

 

[Essie]

As far as BeastDrol is concerned ... I do not know BeastDrol in South Africa, where as with D-Bol you WILL have sides ... I personally experience fart-bombs OUT OF THIS WORLD, whether I take a little extra fish oil with it or not. I experience heartburn that leaves me weaker than my 7 yo daughter and no matter how much water I take, my urine smells like horse-piss and looks like something even Johnny Bravo wouldn't touch. I wish I had personal experience with BeastDrol to make this a more objective statement.

 

[TheN1ghtmare21]

Will be splitting the arimidex in half as y'all said and taking E3D's or so... I will split up the test quite a bit aswell but im having trouble deciding between the BeastDrol and D-Bol. Beast sounds like it would be the best choice but im getting quite a few mixed reviews on it...

Im a huge proponent of beast it was the first ph cycle I ran and it totally rearranged my figure. What are the negitives your hearing?