First Cycle

[Newbie_]

Age 21
wt 229
ht 6'2
BF% I don't know.. Still a bit chubby lol
diet
training split
years training

Hello Ive got 6 days left of oral winstrol.. 25mg at 2 a day 100 tabs... Now I got Deca & Test... Im new to this so im not sure how much I should be taking of each.. Also I use to be about 350 a year ago dropped down to 220.. Then went on vacation.. Went up to 268 and as of today im 229.. My goal is to lose fat and get a nice defined look going.. For the record this is all new to me... Any help would be greatly appreciated..

 

[Superman_777]

You confused me bro. How long have u taken winny & when are u taking the test/deca?

Winny would be much more useful if you are already lean to begin with. Not a good choice to run with high bf. Also winny & deca will cancel some of eachothers benefits out..poorly laid out man

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[hulkamainia 119]

Not a good idea bro

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[Newbie_]

You confused me bro. How long have u taken winny & when are u taking the test/deca?

Winny would be much more useful if you are already lean to begin with. Not a good choice to run with high bf. Also winny & deca will cancel some of eachothers benefits out..poorly laid out man

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I apologize for the confusion.. Got it from a buddy next to nothing he told me try try it.. It worked really well actually.. Was quite surprised.. I started winny at the beginning of january.. So 6 days from now I will be done the winny. I was thinking of starting test&deca tomorrow when I pick it up.. Never used pins this would be the first... Also im dedicated.. No half ass shit.. I work out 6 days a week 2 - 3 times a day..

 

[Sherk]

Age 21
wt 229
ht 6'2
BF% I don't know.. Still a bit chubby lol
diet
training split
years training

Hello Ive got 6 days left of oral winstrol.. 25mg at 2 a day 100 tabs... Now I got Deca & Test... Im new to this so im not sure how much I should be taking of each.. Also I use to be about 350 a year ago dropped down to 220.. Then went on vacation.. Went up to 268 and as of today im 229.. My goal is to lose fat and get a nice defined look going.. For the record this is all new to me... Any help would be greatly appreciated..

If I were you this is how I'd lay everything out:

Diet
Training
Diet
Diet
Diet
Training
Diet
Training

Forget about aas. You don't know what you're doin, how to eat (obviously), haven't been training long enough, too over weight and too young. Oh yeah, you're also wasting your time and money with running this cycle. Train hard and keep to a good strict diet even harder for a couple years, then do a whole heck of a lot of research on aas then do a cycle.


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[SofaGeorge]

It is always smart to start your first cycle before you have a clue what you are doing.

 

[Nelson Montana]

It is always smart to start your first cycle before you have a clue what you are doing.

SOFA! How you been bro! Long time.

 

[Newbie_]

If I were you this is how I'd lay everything out:

Diet
Training
Diet
Diet
Diet
Training
Diet
Training

Forget about aas. You don't know what you're doin, how to eat (obviously), haven't been training long enough, too over weight and too young. Oh yeah, you're also wasting your time and money with running this cycle. Train hard and keep to a good strict diet even harder for a couple years, then do a whole heck of a lot of research on aas then do a cycle.


When we do right nobody remembers, when we do wrong nobody forgets. H.A.M.C

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Thats my reason for wanting to do this now not waiting years... Also reason for gaining that weight was a poor diet ( obviously ) but its hard to eat healthy when on a family vacation and all your family wants is fast food ( for a whole month btw ) and no access to a gym ( tried hotel gyms but they would always be closed by the time Id get back.. Also didnt help smoking chron all the time haha. but I stopped smoking now.. As for my diet Now I would think its pretty good... Lost 125 pounds in 6 months.. Determination and good diet.

 

[live large]

Bro..

You should seriously be listening to what everyone is saying forget about aas. Your bf is way too high ( not trying to offend) to be running the cycle you have layed out. The higher ones bf the higher the risk of side effects. Plus you just finished winny you shouldnt just jump from cycle to cycle your hormone levels will be fucked before you know it. Were you taking any supports while taking the winny like liver support etc ???


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[SinisterUproar]

Age 21
wt 229
ht 6'2
BF% I don't know.. Still a bit chubby lol
diet
training split
years training

Hello Ive got 6 days left of oral winstrol.. 25mg at 2 a day 100 tabs... Now I got Deca & Test... Im new to this so im not sure how much I should be taking of each.. Also I use to be about 350 a year ago dropped down to 220.. Then went on vacation.. Went up to 268 and as of today im 229.. My goal is to lose fat and get a nice defined look going.. For the record this is all new to me... Any help would be greatly appreciated..

You really should do some more research. Deca is the complete opposite of what you want. It's going to blow u up like a water balloon and if I don't have any muscle base right now which it sounds like you don't your just going to look fat

 

[Newbie_]

Bro..

You should seriously be listening to what everyone is saying forget about aas. Your bf is way too high ( not trying to offend) to be running the cycle you have layed out. The higher ones bf the higher the risk of side effects. Plus you just finished winny you shouldnt just jump from cycle to cycle your hormone levels will be fucked before you know it. Were you taking any supports while taking the winny like liver support etc ???


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Not easily offended haha so None taken. The cycle that I layed out was actually suggested to me by a body builder lol... I will try and find out my bf%.. What would be a good % to start at..? Yeah Ive been taking liver support 3x a day, multis 2x a day, fish oil +joint support 2x a day.

You really should do some more research. Deca is the complete opposite of what you want. It's going to blow u up like a water balloon and if I don't have any muscle base right now which it sounds like you don't your just going to look fat

I got muscle base... Im a bigger framed guy... I use to unload 53 foot trailers of tires by hand then throw ( not lift actually throw ) 100's of tires up a flight of stairs.. Not to mention tractor tires i would also unload out of 53 footers.. Again all by hand... Did that for 5 years... Recently dissmissed so just been working out 3 times a day since..



Also got really good results from the winny alone..

 

[live large]

Not easily offended haha so None taken. The cycle that I layed out was actually suggested to me by a body builder lol... I will try and find out my bf%.. What would be a good % to start at..? Yeah Ive been taking liver support 3x a day, multis 2x a day, fish oil +joint support 2x a day.


15% would be the absolute minimum I wld have before running a cycle. Like sinister said deca can bloat you and you will be looking like a puffer fish. Just stick to a solid diet and keep getting ya workouts in. Maybe try low carb cardio days in between your weight days.



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[hulkamainia 119]

2 words... DECA DICK.

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[RADAR]

you need to get your Body fat down more and start with just one injectable compound (test) to see how your body reacts to steroids, deca will kill your libido and linger in the body up to 18 months.Not a good choice.

 

[Newbie_]

you need to get your Body fat down more and start with just one injectable compound (test) to see how your body reacts to steroids, deca will kill your libido and linger in the body up to 18 months.Not a good choice.

After hearing about the deca.. Im gunna get rid of that... I've got test.. Would it be safe to do test with another cycle of winny.... Considering Im almost done my previous bottle of winny.. ( 2 25mg tabs a day ) or would that cause problems... Or should I just stick with the test for now.. If so how much of that should a beginner be taking...

 

[hulkamainia 119]

Sell the test and get a treadmill, lol just kiddin, but seriously you need to get that Bf% down bro!

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[johnham]

Start with just Test E 500mg a week, pinning twice a week (Monday and Thursday 250mg per pin). Stay away from Deca because it will blow you up and you should get your bf down to at least 12% before you decide to bulk.

But try to lose some BF before you start the cycle. It really makes a big difference and you will thank everyone here for the advice.

No idea why your body builder friend suggested Deca. Stay away from winny tabs. Anavar will do the trick and it's milder on side effects.



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[Newbie_]

Start with just Test E 500mg a week, pinning twice a week (Monday and Thursday 250mg per pin). Stay away from Deca because it will blow you up and you should get your bf down to at least 12% before you decide to bulk.

But try to lose some BF before you start the cycle. It really makes a big difference and you will thank everyone here for the advice.

No idea why your body builder friend suggested Deca. Stay away from winny tabs. Anavar will do the trick and it's milder on side effects.



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Alright thank you.

 

[SinisterUproar]

After hearing about the deca.. Im gunna get rid of that... I've got test.. Would it be safe to do test with another cycle of winny.... Considering Im almost done my previous bottle of winny.. ( 2 25mg tabs a day ) or would that cause problems... Or should I just stick with the test for now.. If so how much of that should a beginner be taking...

If you can get your hands on some anavar you could throw that in at the beginning or end. Or even some epistane. I think those would work really well for you

 

[kfriesen]

Age 21
wt 229
ht 6'2
BF% I don't know.. Still a bit chubby lol
diet
training split
years training

Hello Ive got 6 days left of oral winstrol.. 25mg at 2 a day 100 tabs... Now I got Deca & Test... Im new to this so im not sure how much I should be taking of each.. Also I use to be about 350 a year ago dropped down to 220.. Then went on vacation.. Went up to 268 and as of today im 229.. My goal is to lose fat and get a nice defined look going.. For the record this is all new to me... Any help would be greatly appreciated..

How long were you on holidays to gain 48 pounds?

 

[Newbie_]

How long were you on holidays to gain 48 pounds?

A month with a diet consisting of just fast food.. But as of today down to 225.

If you can get your hands on some anavar you could throw that in at the beginning or end. Or even some epistane. I think those would work really well for you

Alright sounds good.