First cycle - What should I take?

[dylangemelli]

there's no sense in putting extra stress on yourself with too many orals when you could simply run sarms and proviron and get better gains, higher keepability, run them longer and have FAR less side effects... read my articles on sarms at Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMS) - Evolutionary.org here is an excellent first cycle for you...

1-12 test cyp 350 mg week

1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod AncillaryGuys // AG-Guys.com - The #1 online Natural Ancillary retailer!

1-14 proviron 50 mg day

1-14 GW-501516 20 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators

1-12 s4 50 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators

1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators

1-12 n2guard n2bm.com

5-12 HCGenerate n2bm.com

13-14 Hcg 1000 ius week



PCT 15-18



clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com

nolva 40/20/20/20 ag-guys.com

aromasin 12..5 mg eod AG-guys.com

n2guard n2bm.com
mk-2866 25 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators

 

[stevesmi]

I agree with Dylan, why put your body though that?

do 1 oral like oxandrovar only

then make sure you have n2guard on cycle. less sides

GW an hour before your workouts and you are g2g

 

[RickRock13]

I think Oxandrovar or Primoboldex would be a Mich better option to run solo than Anavar. They also would give better results.

For PCT run the following:

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
Test Stack 3 caps per day (pm me or see thread in my Sig for info and discounts)
Ostarine 25mg ED

Check out www.sarms1.com and www.ag-guys.com for your ancillaries and sarms

 

[Supercomputer]

Wow so many experts replying but so many different opinions How about just sticking to only simple test for the first time, I've heard one should always take only one compound for the first cycle. The only concern I have with test alone is the supposed low keepability of the gains associated with test only. Is it true you need to stack more than just test to keep more gains? How much can I expect to maintain with test only, assuming PCT & everything is proper?

 

[RickRock13]

Wow so many experts replying but so many different opinions How about just sticking to only simple test for the first time, I've heard one should always take only one compound for the first cycle. The only concern I have with test alone is the supposed low keepability of the gains associated with test only. Is it true you need to stack more than just test to keep more gains? How much can I expect to maintain with test only, assuming PCT & everything is proper?

Test only is perfect for a first cycle honestly. You don't need anything extra with it all, and gains are easier to keep than an oral only cycle. Those tend to come easy and go easy

 

[Supercomputer]

Test only is perfect for a first cycle honestly. You don't need anything extra with it all, and gains are easier to keep than an oral only cycle. Those tend to come easy and go easy

Yes, I've heard injectables are better than orals, but what about this chart?

(can't post links - google "steroid rating chart")

I was looking for something low in sides and high in keepability

I've heard test only cycle gains is almost all water retention, but stacking it for example with deca & d-bol lets you keep almost all If done right of course. Is there any truth to this?

 

[dylangemelli]

Yes, I've heard injectables are better than orals, but what about this chart?

(can't post links - google "steroid rating chart")

I was looking for something low in sides and high in keepability

I've heard test only cycle gains is almost all water retention, but stacking it for example with deca & d-bol lets you keep almost all If done right of course. Is there any truth to this?

your overthinking, your making it too complex and by doing this your going to end up with more issues... you heard this and you heard that... the fact is that no matter what you run, it all depends on YOU... it depends on your consistencies in and out of the gym with diet and training... its all bull shit... yes, dbol is a wet compound and you will absolutely lose some water when your done but what you "heard" about test is complete and utter bull shit in ever regard... you know how you lose gains? by not running an extensive pct and not recovering properly, not controlling estrogen, not having the proper ancillaries, not having a strong bridge in between cycles, not staying consistent... etc... your going to "read" yourself to death and end up making a poor decision... let me put all this in leymans terms for you...

test and dbol... huge gains, less probability of keeping, high toxicity amongst other estrogenic sides

test and anavar... much cleaner gains, higher probability of keeping but high toxicity

test, sarms and proviron... no methylation, little to no sides, cleanest gains, much higher probability of keeping...

 

[Supercomputer]

Thanks for the replying, I'll just stick to test only for the first cycle just as an experiment on myself and then add things like sarms the next time around.

One more question I have is regarding gyno; I had it in my teens when I was obese (just a bit hard part in my nipple) Does that prove I am gyno prone to the point I will certainly get gyno on a test cycle? Also when to start taking AIs (or serms) and how do I know when it is necessary? Thnaks!

 

[dylangemelli]

Thanks for the replying, I'll just stick to test only for the first cycle just as an experiment on myself and then add things like sarms the next time around.

One more question I have is regarding gyno; I had it in my teens when I was obese (just a bit hard part in my nipple) Does that prove I am gyno prone to the point I will certainly get gyno on a test cycle? Also when to start taking AIs (or serms) and how do I know when it is necessary? Thnaks!

start aromasin from the start of your cycle at 12.5 mg eod and assess from there... AncillaryGuys // AG-Guys.com - The #1 online Natural Ancillary retailer!

 

[RickRock13]

Always start your AI from day 1. You can adjust your dose as needed