First cycle - Test E

[mariussmg]

Hello,

I am new to elitefitness and I first like to congratulate you all for the hard work. This is by far the best forum out there.
I learned a lot reading all of your posts and I like to ask for your help ...

I'm 29 years, 210 lbs(96kg), 6.10 feet (1.86m).
I have a 10 years experience in training natural and want to start my first Test E cycle that will look something like this :

Test E : 500mg/wk 1-12 wk
Arimidex 0.5 eod 3-14 wk


I'm thinking to also use Dutasteride to combat some of the sides at 0.5 e3d but i don't know if necessary. Any idee ?
My concern here is acnee and hair loss.
Vitamin C also 3g/day + Vitamin E 1-2g/day beside the vitamin pack.

I don't know if i should use HCG 500mg - 1000mg / wk divided in two shots during the cycle ...
Will be ok the cycle without it ?

Least but not last (maybe the most important) the food :
- 350g / day protein
- 250g - 300g / day carbs
- 50g - 100 g / day fats

As PCT i will use (starting two weeks after my last pin):

Clomid - 100/50/50/50
Tamoxifen - 40/40/20/20


What do you think ?

thx

 

[mariussmg]

Nobody has any opinion?

 

[mariussmg]

I could use some opinions of people who have tried a similar cycle.

Thanks in advance

 

[bonacris]

I ran a similar cycle with the only exception being I ran dbol aswell..

Test E 500mg week 1-12
Dbol 30mg daily week 1-4
Hcgenerate week 4-10
Hcg 500iu week 10-12
Hcg 1000iu week 12-14

Pct
Clomid
Unleashed
Forged post cycle
Formastanzol
DAA

Gained and kept 10lbs and lost 2% bf

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[burnthiscorpse]

I ran a similar cycle with the only exception being I ran dbol aswell..

Test E 500mg week 1-12
Dbol 30mg daily week 1-4
Hcgenerate week 4-10
Hcg 500iu week 10-12
Hcg 1000iu week 12-14

Pct
Clomid
Unleashed
Forged post cycle
Formastanzol
DAA

Gained and kept 10lbs and lost 2% bf

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Almost^^^^^^

The PCT is a real PCT and solid and proven. As it pertains to the OP....drop the Dbol. HALF the test dose. Yes half. It will do the same thing on a first cycle.

Change the Adex to .25mg E3D and increase if or as needed.

 

[bonacris]

I should have added that I ran forma on through out the cycle but had to switch to adex as I was bloating very badly and nips were getting puffy..

But I agree with BTC above I would lower the test dose.. i will be doing that my next cycle.. I think I could have similar results and less sides.. its also easier to work upward rather than backward but I've made my mistake

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[burnthiscorpse]

I should have added that I ran forma on through out the cycle but had to switch to adex as I was bloating very badly and nips were getting puffy..

But I agree with BTC above I would lower the test dose.. i will be doing that my next cycle.. I think I could have similar results and less sides.. its also easier to work upward rather than backward but I've made my mistake

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Not even so much with sides from my perspective. 500mg is too much for a first cycle. Not "too much" but more than necessary. You could do 3 cycles and stack before ever getting to 500mg. Learn to get as much as you can out of as little as you can.

 

[mariussmg]

Thank you all

Ok, I'll change the cycle with 250 mg / wk and adex 0.25 e3d.
Dutasteride (avodart) will help in this case with something (avoiting the androgenic sides ... acnee, hair loss) ?

Any opinion on using HCG (Pregnil) on cycle ? Test E at 250 mg / wk, I don't think will be needed ...

I know how important the PCT is, but I don't have from where to buy anything else beside Tamoxifen and Clomid.
Will it be ok to only use Clomit and Tamoxifen ?

 

[redheat7]

U can buy unleashed/post cycle combo from needtobuildmuscle.com and formastanzol from mrsupps.com

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

Hello,

I am new to elitefitness and I first like to congratulate you all for the hard work. This is by far the best forum out there.
I learned a lot reading all of your posts and I like to ask for your help ...

I'm 29 years, 210 lbs(96kg), 6.10 feet (1.86m).
I have a 10 years experience in training natural and want to start my first Test E cycle that will look something like this :

Test E : 500mg/wk 1-12 wk
Arimidex 0.5 eod 3-14 wk


I'm thinking to also use Dutasteride to combat some of the sides at 0.5 e3d but i don't know if necessary. Any idee ?
My concern here is acnee and hair loss.
Vitamin C also 3g/day + Vitamin E 1-2g/day beside the vitamin pack.

I don't know if i should use HCG 500mg - 1000mg / wk divided in two shots during the cycle ...
Will be ok the cycle without it ?

Least but not last (maybe the most important) the food :
- 350g / day protein
- 250g - 300g / day carbs
- 50g - 100 g / day fats

As PCT i will use (starting two weeks after my last pin):

Clomid - 100/50/50/50
Tamoxifen - 40/40/20/20


What do you think ?

thx

First, you should consider going with the bulking version of the Anabolic diet instead of doing a low fat/high carb diet. The results are going to be night and day.

Second, I would redo your cycle a bit (along with PCT):

Test E : 500mg/wk 1-12 wk
Arimidex 0.25mgs EOD
d-spark 1cap/day
HCGenerate ES 3 caps AM/2 pre-workout
N2Guard - 2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM


Bridge between cycles (needed before start of PCT): 1 week after last shot
HCGenerate - 2 caps AM/1 post workout


PCT: 4 weeks
kick start (2 weeks): HCGenerate - 2 caps AM/1 post workout/1 PM
+ d-spark 1cap/ED
Clomid 50/25/25/25
arimidex 0.25mgs EOD week 1-2, E3D week 3, none week 4
N2Guard - 2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM

 

[dylangemelli]

whether or not you run an oral on this cycle depends on your goals... i always prefer aromasin to arimidex but i always recommend running an ai on cycle... it will not hurt your gains as long as your run it properly... i am putting anavar on the back of this cycle to finish it off nicely and really clean up your gains from it...

1-12 test e 350 mg week
1-14 arimidex .5 mg eod
4-10 hcgenerate
11-12 hcg 500 ius week
13-14 hcg 1000 ius week
9-14 anavar 60-80 mg day
9-14 n2guard

pct 15-18

clomid 25/25/25/25 AGguys.com
Methyl EAA and Test Infusion mrsupps.com
forma stanzol mrsupps.com
Keto burn MRSUPPS.COM
ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com

 

[dylangemelli]

I think you would be get better results on 250mg e5d for 20 weeks without ari.

Why would you advise someone to run their first cycle for 20 weeks? Thats not good advice at all

 

[wootoom]

He's been trolling constantly in the aas pics section also...

 

[mariussmg]

Thx you all for helping !

I was thinking taking Dianabol only 10 mg/day for two months, only for protein syntesis.
Anyone tried this ?

This was actualy the first cycle that I was consider doing but I changed my mind.
Was this a good first cycle considering that I don't want much mass ?

Thx

 

[mariussmg]

And another thing about the diet:

I was thinking on switching on keto diet after my last pin of test e ... hy fat, moderate protein, low to very low carbs.
Is this a good idea ? anyone tried this ?

 

[the_alcatraz]

First, you should consider going with the bulking version of the Anabolic diet instead of doing a low fat/high carb diet. The results are going to be night and day.

Second, I would redo your cycle a bit (along with PCT):

Test E : 500mg/wk 1-12 wk
Arimidex 0.25mgs EOD
d-spark 1cap/day
HCGenerate ES 3 caps AM/2 pre-workout
N2Guard - 2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM


Bridge between cycles (needed before start of PCT): 1 week after last shot
HCGenerate - 2 caps AM/1 post workout


PCT: 4 weeks
kick start (2 weeks): HCGenerate - 2 caps AM/1 post workout/1 PM
+ d-spark 1cap/ED
Clomid 50/25/25/25
arimidex 0.25mgs EOD week 1-2, E3D week 3, none week 4
N2Guard - 2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM

I disagree with waiting 4 weeks to run PCT. I think you should run PCT 1 week after last shot of test. HCGenerate alone will not be sufficient for 4 weeks....however running HCGenerate along with his PCG will be much better.

When you say kickstart 2 weeks, do you mean you only start the clomid after 6 weeks of last shot of test? That's a little extreme IMO

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

I disagree with waiting 4 weeks to run PCT. I think you should run PCT 1 week after last shot of test. HCGenerate alone will not be sufficient for 4 weeks....however running HCGenerate along with his PCG will be much better.

When you say kickstart 2 weeks, do you mean you only start the clomid after 6 weeks of last shot of test? That's a little extreme IMO

a) You misread my post a bit . The PCT itself is 4 weeks.

b) You start clomid from day 1 of PCT. The kickstart is with HCGenerate only.

 

[the_alcatraz]

a) You misread my post a bit . The PCT itself is 4 weeks.

b) You start clomid from day 1 of PCT. The kickstart is with HCGenerate only.

I see, makes more sense. Why the bridge with HCG though?

Why not just start PCT right after the cycle and include HCGenerate?