First cycle!! Test E, Win, Tbol and HGH!!

[trt]

Hi, I´m going on my first cycle in January, and have been planning everything for a while now. I want to show you the cycle so more experienced people can comment if you have anything on your mind. Positive, negative and constructive comments, everything is good!


Stats:
200 lbs heavy

Training for 5 years,

Almost 20 years old.

Eat and sleep good.



What do you think of this cycle?


Week
1-12 Test E 400 mg/w
1-4 Turinabol 40 mg ed
8-12 Arimidex 0,25 mg ed
10-13 Winstrol 50 mg ed

PCT
14-19 Nolvadex 40, 20, 20, 20, 20 mg
12-15 Clomid 50 mg

I will also run GENOTROPIN like this
Month 1, 2, 3: 2 Units 5 days on, 2 days off.
Month 4, 5, 6: 2 Units ED.

I will start with Genotropin about 1 month before I start my AAS cycle.

Will consult my doctor and take blood tests before cycle, in week 4, in week 9 and after PCT.

Check blood pressure every morning.


What do you guys think of this setup?
How much do you think I can gain (and maybe loose body fat from HGH) if I train very hard and eat very good?

Thanks for all comments guys.

 

[thelocal]

first im no expert this is just info form what i been reading and learned

man what is Turinabol?

and i would just do test e for a first cycle but if you get it stuck in your mind to do winne i would do

1-12 test 500
9-12 winny 50ed(im not a fan of orals i use ineluctable only)

 

[C.K.]

I think the orals are being ran wayyyyy too short

 

[therugger]

You're to young for HGH, and definately not experienced enough to start running HGH. You should run Test only, but there is nothing wrong with using TBol as a kickstart. I like Tbol but haven't done it in a long time

 

[burnthiscorpse]

A) you are too young for AAS
b) HGH at your age is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
c) you will not get AAS advice on this site if you are under 21

 

[trt]

I am under 21, yes.
But it is so much better that I get these advises istead of ruining my body ffs.
I am running AAS and HGH to get a shot at pro BB.
Why excactly is HGH such a stupid thing at my age? Plese explane more then that I am to young.

I say thanks to all replies! This is helping me big time.

 

[trt]

first im no expert this is just info form what i been reading and learned

man what is Turinabol?

and i would just do test e for a first cycle but if you get it stuck in your mind to do winne i would do

1-12 test 500
9-12 winny 50ed(im not a fan of orals i use ineluctable only)

The point of taking winny 10-13 is that I can run winstrol, that is quick, while the test that is slow is going out of my body. In that way I can be on AAS much closer to the PCT. In that way I will not have 2 weeks of "dead time" before PCT, but only a couple of days. Much better in my opinion

 

[therugger]

I saw 20 and thought you were about to turn now I reread and see you are under 20. You can push torwards being a pro bodybuilder but for the next couple years you need to work on your base naturally. Your test and HGH levels are still very high.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Because your body is still growing and your pituitary is pumping out the HGH daily. You want to throw more synthetic on top of it.
You want advice to not fuck yourself up....but yout 20 and you want to do a 4 drug stack for a first cycle. That in itself is irresponsible.
You dont want to fuck yourself up? Then dont shove a bunch of AAS in your body while your natural systems are running at peak levels because of your age.
You ask for advice and then when you get it you dont like the answer.

 

[trt]

No, no. Please, do not misunderstand me.
I know you are the experienced guys here.
The HGH will be but on hold I guess.
But the low dosed test on 375 or 400 for 10-12 weeks will substand I think. I am not a average teenage lowlife that works out once in a while and eats bad. My training and dieting is very good, the reason I wanted the HGH was because of an back injury that I want to heal well.

 

[ALIN]

Thats a big cycle with too many compounds for your 1st cycle.
Your only 20. Any idea on what your natural hormone levels are like?

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Aside from the fact that the ONLY smart choice for a first cycle is TEST ONLY.
The board rules are no assistance for people under 21. If you actually have been commited for 5 years and you actually have the right genetics to be a pro which is extremely rare....then with the work and diet you say you have done you should actually already look like you have been juicing even though you havnt been. Is that how you look???????????????????

 

[joe d]

Hi, I´m going on my first cycle in January, and have been planning everything for a while now. I want to show you the cycle so more experienced people can comment if you have anything on your mind. Positive, negative and constructive comments, everything is good!


Stats:
200 lbs heavy

Training for 5 years,

Almost 20 years old.

Eat and sleep good.



What do you think of this cycle?


Week
1-12 Test E 400 mg/w
1-4 Turinabol 40 mg ed
8-12 Arimidex 0,25 mg ed
10-13 Winstrol 50 mg ed

PCT
14-19 Nolvadex 40, 20, 20, 20, 20 mg
12-15 Clomid 50 mg

I will also run GENOTROPIN like this
Month 1, 2, 3: 2 Units 5 days on, 2 days off.
Month 4, 5, 6: 2 Units ED.

I will start with Genotropin about 1 month before I start my AAS cycle.

Will consult my doctor and take blood tests before cycle, in week 4, in week 9 and after PCT.

Check blood pressure every morning.


What do you guys think of this setup?
How much do you think I can gain (and maybe loose body fat from HGH) if I train very hard and eat very good?

Thanks for all comments guys.

give me an idea if your height, weight, bf%, diet, training and i bet i can help you grow a bit more. i will not give aas advice either though. send it in a pm if you want.

 

[cy23]

I just ran my first cycle and only ran 350 mg test a week. That is way too much shit man. Hgh? You are joking right? At 20? I grew an inch from 20 to 22... Don't go fucking your body up man. You better post some pics if you are trying to convince anyone you are shooting to become a pro and use that as a justification for such an absurd first cycle. It takes about five seconds to google "first steroid cycle" and twenty plus websites will all tell you test only 250- MAYBE up to 500 mg a week. You should read the recent thread about the guy with fucked up vision from hgh use and let reality sink in. These are DRUGS and have side effects.

 

[kdc1023]

None of us are here to keep you from your dreams or something you like to do but we all do care about our fellow juicers, lifters etc. You need to realize that you are too young at the moment for something like this. I read on these forums very often and I have never even seen a veteran poster/juicer post a cycle that extreme and you want to do it for ur first cycle. I just turned 21 and am still waiting on my first real injectable cycle which will not be for a while. You need to be patient and listen to what these people are trying to tell you. You will fuck up your body permanently and for good if you start doing this stuff too early. Now I do not recommend this at all but you can atleast wait until you turn 21 and then do a 10 week cycle of test to see how your body reacts to it. I promise you that the longer you wait to do this the happier you will be in the future. I myself have made dumb decisions with pro-hormones at a young age of 18 and learned first hand what can come from AAS without education.

 

[trt]

Ok, guys. Thanks for all the feedback.

I am serious: thank you all!

You have a very different opinion on this cycle then the guys here in Norway. I respect and admire people like you guys, because you know so much more then what I do.
I want you to know that I will NOT run HGH or the three compund cycle. I will keep on training hard and eating right, even if I (like most guys) want to grow big in a hurry.
And if I decide to juice in the future, my first cycle will be 375 test E and tbol for 4 weeks as a kicker.

Thanks for all the help, guys. You just might saved my health there.
I owe you.

 

[Nelson Montana]

If you need steroids at 20 you'll always need them. Prepare to be on HRT at age 25.

 

[C.K.]

If you need steroids at 20 you'll always need them. Prepare to be on HRT at age 25.

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