First Cycle Test E Dosage?

[Roofus]

I've been looking into Test E dosages for a 10 week cycle across 4 different boards and there is no consensus. I've seen everything from a suggested 200mg to 1000mg, and the so called average ranging from 400-700mg.
Is there any consensus here?
5'10 182lbs 15%bf, diet is currently in check, been back in the gym 20 straight months and getting my final prep in for my first cycle, but I'm trying to sort through a lot of the misinformation around the net as well. Thanks for the help.

 

[frankmasterpiece]

how old are you and how long youve been working out for?test e is always a good choice for a first cycle you can do 500mg for 10 weeks .just have an ati-e and have your pct before you start your cycle have a good diet set up and you're good to go bro...

 

[Watson]

It's unbeleivable that someone would say a gram, but I've seen the fucks do it! If you have T250 it's gonna be easier to get an even 500 per week with 2 cc's. Seems more first cycles start out with 500 mg/wk now that Brovel, and Tornel aren't on the scene. To be honest bro, you will grow like a weed on just 250mg per week for your first cycle, but everyone is gonna tell you to go for the higher dose! Diet....Get your diet right! It's the most important step.

 

[MR. BMJ]

I've been looking into Test E dosages for a 10 week cycle across 4 different boards and there is no consensus. I've seen everything from a suggested 200mg to 1000mg, and the so called average ranging from 400-700mg.
Is there any consensus here?
5'10 182lbs 15%bf, diet is currently in check, been back in the gym 20 straight months and getting my final prep in for my first cycle, but I'm trying to sort through a lot of the misinformation around the net as well. Thanks for the help.

How old are you?

What are your goals?

If you are just wanting to gain 5-15-lbs of bodyweight or to get that 'look good' feel like most here, then 500mg/wk of Test enanthate will be fine.

However, if you are dead serious on obtaining maximum amount of muscle and to take advatage of your very first virgin cycle, then I am one of the "fucks" who advocate 1gm per week.

Depends on your goals and what you are looking to obtain.

Prior gym experience and age are also factors to add in.

Take an Aromatase Inhibitor such as Aromasin or AIFM with your test cycles.

BMJ

 

[dal022]

Well heres my 2 cents i have done 2 cycles 500mgs sus for 10 weeks and my second was 400mg test e and 300 mg deca i gained 8lbs the first time and this time my weight stayed the same but i got leaner and harder looking and strong as an ox but the second 1 i was on calorie deficent diet to lose some bf and it worked.my next cycle in april will consist of 750-1grm of test maybe test E or cyponate EQ and deca i think i am 1 of thoes people that needs alot of test it will prob be my best gains who knows .....

but just start at 500mg that will be plenty eat good and you will be happy


just chiming in

 

[Watson]

How old are you?

What are your goals?

If you are just wanting to gain 5-15-lbs of bodyweight or to get that 'look good' feel like most here, then 500mg/wk of Test enanthate will be fine.

However, if you are dead serious on obtaining maximum amount of muscle and to take advatage of your very first virgin cycle, then I am one of the "fucks" who advocate 1gm per week.

Depends on your goals and what you are looking to obtain.

Prior gym experience and age are also factors to add in.

Take an Aromatase Inhibitor such as Aromasin or AIFM with your test cycles.

BMJ

I'd say on average, when people do thier first cycle the gains are somewhere between 20 to 30 pounds, depending on your training intensity, and your diet. That's on the normal recommended dose of 400 to 500 mg/wk for someone doing a first cycle. So what would he expect to gain on 1 gram? Cause it doesn't get much better than 25 or 30 pounds. Then where do you go from there? Up in the dosage for your 2nd cycle? A gram is a bit ridiculous.

 

[ole farte']

I'd say on average, when people do thier first cycle the gains are somewhere between 20 to 30 pounds, depending on your training intensity, and your diet. That's on the normal recommended dose of 400 to 500 mg/wk for someone doing a first cycle. So what would he expect to gain on 1 gram? Cause it doesn't get much better than 25 or 30 pounds. Then where do you go from there? Up in the dosage for your 2nd cycle? A gram is a bit ridiculous.

there's a great forum on this exact same discussion over at anabolic fitness. changed my mind about the whole 1gr test/wk dosage. that said, i'm am just starting my first cycle on 500mg cause that's all i got. 10wks and i'm sure i'll be pleased with it.

 

[Watson]

there's a great forum on this exact same discussion over at anabolic fitness. changed my mind about the whole 1gr test/wk dosage. that said, i'm am just starting my first cycle on 500mg cause that's all i got. 10wks and i'm sure i'll be pleased with it.

I'm totally up for new ideas. I've tried posting a couple about GH, and some recent articles, but I get absolutely nothing back. Honestly, if I could go back and do my first cycle over, I would do 4 to 6 months of GH with a minimal amount of test, maybe 250 mg. per week. You could easily gain 30 or more pounds and keep every bit, which is the reason we all do steroids in the first place. Correct? The juice is a never ending cycle. Your gonna eventually lose what you gain if you stop training, give or take 5 or 10 pounds. Why not create new muscle cells the first go around, and keep the all the weight? That's my opinion.

 

[Roofus]

Still reading through the posts, but just to answer the question, I'm 26, and like I mentioned in the OP, I've been back in the gym for the last 20 months. My goal is to continue cutting by way of diet, but to try to add 10-20lbs muscle.
Question though, how much does the average person retain with a good PCT after finishing their first cycle? I guess that is sorta a cost/benefit question. And for a first cycle should I stick with just the Test E, or add something else a few weeks in?

 

[orionstar]

Go with 500 a week

 

[OMEGA]

500 Min

 

[ole farte']

I'm totally up for new ideas. I've tried posting a couple about GH, and some recent articles, but I get absolutely nothing back. Honestly, if I could go back and do my first cycle over, I would do 4 to 6 months of GH with a minimal amount of test, maybe 250 mg. per week. You could easily gain 30 or more pounds and keep every bit, which is the reason we all do steroids in the first place. Correct? The juice is a never ending cycle. Your gonna eventually lose what you gain if you stop training, give or take 5 or 10 pounds. Why not create new muscle cells the first go around, and keep the all the weight? That's my opinion.

Basically , that's what i'm doing. my 1st cycle. over a month now on gh, thrown in some igf and now just started 500mg wk test-e 2 days ago, for 10 wks. will do the gh for a year. really interested in how much lbm i can create and how much i can keep.

 

[palehorse51]

250 2x wk. 500!!!!

 

[ole farte']

250 2x wk. 500!!!!

yeah! i liked ur post about y/g but it sure vanished quickly

 

[BOOEY]

500mg for 10-12 weeks. 1g i think is too high, especially for his first cycle. see how you react this go around and then you can either up the dose for your second or add another compound, like dbol, winny or eq.

 

[Mrpumped]

I'd say on average, when people do thier first cycle the gains are somewhere between 20 to 30 pounds, depending on your training intensity, and your diet. That's on the normal recommended dose of 400 to 500 mg/wk for someone doing a first cycle. So what would he expect to gain on 1 gram? Cause it doesn't get much better than 25 or 30 pounds. Then where do you go from there? Up in the dosage for your 2nd cycle? A gram is a bit ridiculous.

The only time someone gains that much weight the first time is because they hadn't reached their genetic potential and jumped on gear.

To answer your question about how much to use will depend on where you are at right now in terms of genetic potential, age, diet, how long you've been training for and your goals. You are the one that has to chose how much to run. Everyone here and anywhere else is just going to give you the same answers pretty much. The average first cycle of Test is anywhere between 200mg to1000mg per week.

 

[matty420]

perfect test-e only cycle is 1.5 ml (if of course your test-e is rated @ 250mg/ml) monday morning and thursday night.. the first three weeks will be questionable.. you won't really have a whole lot of changes going on, but by the end of week 4 you'll be very happy. grab yourself a stack of d-bol the get yourself jumpsstarted. 60mgs a day split up and taken every 4 hours

 

[Watson]

The only time someone gains that much weight the first time is because they hadn't reached their genetic potential and jumped on gear.

To answer your question about how much to use will depend on where you are at right now in terms of genetic potential, age, diet, how long you've been training for and your goals. You are the one that has to chose how much to run. Everyone here and anywhere else is just going to give you the same answers pretty much. The average first cycle of Test is anywhere between 200mg to1000mg per week.

Yeah, and I would love to see some numbers when it comes to the percentage of people who actually reach thier FULL genetic potential before jumping on gear. I would guess somewhere under 5%. I wouldn't be surprised if that number is DEAD on. If not, then it's lower.

Why can't this question just get answered? Every damn person that has posted knows that 500 mg. per week is a reasonable dose and the most recommended for a first cycle. It has always amazed me how everyone feels the need to know MORE than everyone else, or know something that everyone else doesn't. It's a simple question. Why not just give him a good straight-forward answer, and we can all be on our way. 200 mg. to 1000 mg. is not a good answer. Sorry, but I've never found dosages to be anything close to rocket science. So why make them seem that way?

 

[Roofus]

Ok, I am gonn look at 500mg test e per week in 2 250gm doses.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

most people find low dose cycles, ie 200mg dissapointing. Though there are certainly those that respond to those dosages.

500-750mg of T alone is reasonable for a first cycle and will generally produce the desired result.

the NEJM study used 600mg/week

 

[Roofus]

most people find low dose cycles, ie 200mg dissapointing. Though there are certainly those that respond to those dosages.

500-750mg of T alone is reasonable for a first cycle and will generally produce the desired result.

the NEJM study used 600mg/week

What study was that? Where can I read it?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

http://www.arthurdevany.com/webstuff/SteroidsNEJM.pdf

 

[Roofus]

Thanks. :thumbsup:

 

[Roofus]

Ok, so here is what I have:

1-10 Test E 500mg @ 250mg twice a week (mon/thur)
PCT
10-12 1,000 IUs HCG 3x/wk (mon/wed/fri)
10-12 20mg Novaldex

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Question...Is all that PCT necessary? Would I be going overboard? Could I go Clomid, Novaldex, or HCG alone? Or is it safer to use 2 in conjunction?

Can you get HCG at AG-Guys? Or is that a stupid question.

Thanks guys for helping me knock out my details so that I am doing everything exactly right!

p.s. karma for all those that helped me in this post.

 

[zk7]

You should start with 500mg/week for your first cycle. 1 Shot per week.

Also Macro, the body natural test levels per week are what? 250mg?
So 250 wont do diddly squat?

 

[Roofus]

So in your opinion because the half life if pretty long with Test E, a single injection of 500mg is better? Or was there a different reason?

 

[hesnobradpitt]

So in your opinion because the half life if pretty long with Test E, a single injection of 500mg is better? Or was there a different reason?

The 2 pw is to keep the blood levels more even ,so maybe less sides
I did 500 -750 pw my first and loved it .
Brad.

 

[zk7]

It's unbeleivable that someone would say a gram, but I've seen the fucks do it! If you have T250 it's gonna be easier to get an even 500 per week with 2 cc's. Seems more first cycles start out with 500 mg/wk now that Brovel, and Tornel aren't on the scene. To be honest bro, you will grow like a weed on just 250mg per week for your first cycle, but everyone is gonna tell you to go for the higher dose! Diet....Get your diet right! It's the most important step.

There are lots of dumbass people that recommend ridiculous doses to noobs , even someone in their 5th cycle or more shouldnt take a gram. People are so impatient, they think more roids equals faster growth. WRONG WRONG WRONG

It takes time for the muscle to growth, regardless of your roid intake and the more roids = more estrogen = more bitch tits for you.

 

[Roofus]

Can anyone answer my PCT questions from post #24?
Thanks

 

[camshaft]

500

 

[Beachboy6294]

Ok, I am gonn look at 500mg test e per week in 2 250gm doses.

I think you would do best with that bro!! Also you asked whatelse you could add I took Deca with Test my first cycle and loved it but many people say to take test alone to see exactly how you react to it.

 

[chrisc91490]

Hello im considering on doing a cycle. Where do you guys get it from and in what dosage. Please excuse my inexperience .

 

[Demo024]

I have ran test e 4 times . My first ever cycle I shot 250mg once a week for 12 weeks. Got some pretty solid gains I think I put on around 20 pounds bc diet and trainer were in check. Second and third time I shot 250 2x a week for 500mg. Now remember shooting 500mg of test e isn't really 500 mg test e. More like 375 bc the ester is included in the total mg per ml. My last cycle I front loaded 1250mg the first week then went 750mg per week . I went from 197 at 10.7%bf to 236 lbs at 8% bf after 16weeks. Although I ran dbol 40mg Ed for 5weeks and threw in win you at the end for weeks 11-16...

It's all about how ones body reacts to the test and how you are eating and training. I would start out at 250mg once a week for 3-4 weeks and if you react well to it up it to 500mg a week ( 250 2x a week ) ... Always make sure you are drinking a lot of water and dieting and training right! Good luck sir !

 

[Demo024]

I'd say for a first time user test e is the way to go and I personally started at 250mg once a week for 12 weeks...

However if you react well to it the first 4 weeks you can easily inject 500mg a week ( 250 2x )

I have done 4 cycles with test e. My first go around was 250 a week and I gained around 15 lbs or so. My last cycle I front loaded 1250mg the first week and then 750 a week ( 375 2x/wk ) went from 202lbs at 10.7 %bf to 236lbs and 8% bf. Kick started with 40mg dbol Ed for 5 weeks and needed with oral winny weeks 11-16. Ran the test e 16weeks.

Diet and training must be in total check to take the most advantage. Don't expect it to work without training hard a dieting right! Kitchen is where you build and repair muscle, the gym is where you tear down muscle.

Good luck to you sir!

 

[j_p]

I've been looking into Test E dosages for a 10 week cycle across 4 different boards and there is no consensus. I've seen everything from a suggested 200mg to 1000mg, and the so called average ranging from 400-700mg.
Is there any consensus here?
5'10 182lbs 15%bf, diet is currently in check, been back in the gym 20 straight months and getting my final prep in for my first cycle, but I'm trying to sort through a lot of the misinformation around the net as well. Thanks for the help.

400-600mg ew ( i rec 500mg ew) for no less than 12 weeks IMO, ( i like 14wks) i feel 10 is already hitting a "waste of a cycle and putting your body through a hormonal roller coaster for nothing) zone.
make sure you use an AI during cycle and i rec PCT of 4-5 weeks after cycle of 50mg clomid ed and 20mg tamox ed.

good luck