lets throw in T3 cause that is what zyzz did. a lot of guys run T3 then get nada out of it.. all it does is speed up metabolism, it doesn't give you an 8 pack so you can impress the 15 year old girls on chat roulette
i'm not giving you shit bro but you see what i'm getting at here? this is a marathon, not a sprint. you want overnight results, not gonna happen!