First cycle test amounts.

[thx9000]

I had pretty much decided to do 500mg/week test enanthate and 400mg/week Eq but now I am wondering how low I can go on the test and still expect decent results.

From what I've read 500/week isnt too high, but it might not be necessary as I am seeing people doing as low as 250/week. Any thoughts?

 

[scout420]

I got good results off of 500 mg a week of test.But remember that it's going to take a good 4 weeks for that shit to really kick in.

 

[Dr.Big]

first cycle was 1 sust250 and 200mg deca every 7 days was great and only 5 weeks I belive mabey 6. I would use the 400mg EQ and 250test

 

[Diesel3d]

i think 250 test/ week is good for a first cycle.

 

[bigAragorn]

i did 375 a week of test only and gained alot of mass.....eating and training like you cant overtrain was the key.....but there are gonna be some who say mass increase correlates with amount of gear but whaddaya gonna do....i say 500 is good.

 

[Axe]

My first run I did 500 test/wk and was VERY happy. I would go with that.

 

[Golden_Muscle]

me, 250/wk, 8 wks. up 23lbs, kept all using clomid. Its now a yr later and im bigger stronger and leaner than ever before. Next starts next sept. 500mg sust + anavar.

 

[thx9000]

Thanks everyone. I am thinking since I will be doing test and EQ, that maybe I'll go with 400EQ and 300 to 400 Test each week. I still have a few weeks to decide, and I guess I can always up the amount as I go along if I dont like my progress...

 

[Diesel3d]

Thanks everyone. I am thinking since I will be doing test and EQ, that maybe I'll go with 400EQ and 300 to 400 Test each week. I still have a few weeks to decide, and I guess I can always up the amount as I go along if I dont like my progress...

be aware that if you do that your total AS / week will be the EQ grams + test. So if you do 400 test and 400 eg, that's a total of 800mg of AS per week. Thats the same is doing 800mg of test ( in theory). I would keep you dosages at a max of 500mg/week of total AS for a first cycle. 200 of test + 250eq. Something like that.

 

[thx9000]

be aware that if you do that your total AS / week will be the EQ grams + test. So if you do 400 test and 400 eg, that's a total of 800mg of AS per week. Thats the same is doing 800mg of test ( in theory). I would keep you dosages at a max of 500mg/week of total AS for a first cycle. 200 of test + 250eq. Something like that.

For some reason I have the impression that EQ is basically useless at less than 400mg/week. Not sure where I read that, but I think it was on a few posts here.

 

[FatChops]

Well I did 500mg/wk SUS and gained 30lbs and kept 25 and 5 months later I am stronger and leanerthen I was. i would go with 500.

Chops

 

[ireekofawesomeness]

Actually im curious about this too cuz i just decided to go with an all test cycle of omnadren vs test and fina, and this will also be my first cycle. I have heard 250ml a week is too small of an amount a few places including on here, does everyone agree 500ml a week is a sure bet without being overboard?

 

[Pacesetter]

Actually im curious about this too cuz i just decided to go with an all test cycle of omnadren vs test and fina, and this will also be my first cycle. I have heard 250ml a week is too small of an amount a few places including on here, does everyone agree 500ml a week is a sure bet without being overboard?

250ml? 500ml? Man at those dosages, even @ 50mgs/ml, you will e-x-p-l-o-d-e!!

 

[Diesel3d]

From what I know, EQ is less androgenic than Test. So it can't necessarily be said that "Thats the same is doing 800mg of test."
The bonus of adding EQ is you get an good anabolic with less androgenic potency, so you don't overload on the androgenic effects/sides.

I’m not going to disagree with you, but i am mainly talking about this in terms of shutdown and the total amount of drugs you are pumping into your body per week for you FIRST cycle. even though its EQ, it's still and extra 400mg/week of a hormone that you body is not familiar with.

I agree with what you said, and that would apply to the people who are beyond their first cycle, but for I first cycle I believe it’s too many mg that are not necessary. A lot may not agree with me, but I don’t' compete so I take a very moderate approach to drug use.

thx9000 :

I would keep it low dosage with only one drug so you can see how it affects your body.
You could do 250mg of test/week for 8 weeks. And save the rest of the drugs for another cycle down the road.

 

[Diesel3d]

For some reason I have the impression that EQ is basically useless at less than 400mg/week. Not sure where I read that, but I think it was on a few posts here.

You would be better of using more test. 250/week EQ might do something though because it would be your first cycle. I think to see big cosmetic results from 250mg eq you would need to be on for a very long time.

 

[Dr.M]

250-500, I gained 14 lean pounds from 250 @ 10 weeks sust alone, nothing else. Not as great as I hoped (of course you hope your one of those freaks who gets 20), I will admit that I got tired of eating, my best weeks were 3 and 4, after that things slowed down. When I at like A PIG, I gained, when I curtailed that, so did the gains. Makes me think I'm one of those people who will do best with a pizza style diet + protein.

 

[IronFist]

I personally wouldn't run the test under 400mg a week...

 

[Judo Tom]

250-500, I gained 14 lean pounds from 250 @ 10 weeks sust alone, nothing else. Not as great as I hoped (of course you hope your one of those freaks who gets 20), I will admit that I got tired of eating, my best weeks were 3 and 4, after that things slowed down. When I at like A PIG, I gained, when I curtailed that, so did the gains. Makes me think I'm one of those people who will do best with a pizza style diet + protein.

one of the benefits of adding eq is the increase in appetite.. that might help you the most

im thinking of doing 500mg of test E a week but i am the same way w/ eating so i am thinkin of using the eq to help w/ the appetite...

 

[darkvader111]

My first cycle was 350mg of test and i had great gains and after 3 or 4 weeks (omg) let me just say it was outstanding. Big and strong.

 

[Dr.M]

Yep, I started around 215 and did fine with 250 my first cycle, would have been nice to have more but you don't know how you'll react your first time, didn't want people at work to freak out too much, yada yada.

 

[BIZ]

The key factor......

Diet!!! Eat quality whole foods...
Chicken
lean meat
Low fat Milk
Carbs....
Rice
potatoes
Water at least 1 gallon and a half...
Multivitamin
Cranberry seed extract
Glutamine
Creatine...
whey protien powder

Keep your dosages minimal first cycle.....Intense workout's You will grow like a weed...

BIZ!!

 

[Racer-X99]

I had pretty much decided to do 500mg/week test enanthate and 400mg/week Eq but now I am wondering how low I can go on the test and still expect decent results.

From what I've read 500/week isnt too high, but it might not be necessary as I am seeing people doing as low as 250/week. Any thoughts?

Well, I am new to the dark side and I am mid-way through my first cycle. I don't like to play around and I knew that if I didn't get decent results than I would never do it again. I am doing 75-90mg fina EOD and test enanth 500mg/week. I love it and very happy in the sixth week.

You can front load the test (do a search there are some very good articles on this here) or you can inject prop to get things going faster. The test didn't really starting hitting me until a few days before the forth week. You also need to run the test and the EQ at least ten weeks unless you front load them.

Everyone obviously has different opinions about this. The hard thing to gauge your first time is how well your body will react to the gear. My friend doesn't see much benefits unless he runs 1.5g+ per week of test, but others gain off of 250-300mg/week. You could be lucky, or not. I think 400-500mg is a good starting point. I am running EQ the next time and 400mg is the bottom of that. It is not as strong as the enanth from what I read. If you start low and it doesn't work out, you can always increase the does the next time. Good luck and keep anti-estrogens around.

 

[bigAragorn]

it seems alot of guys got relatively good gains of small amounts of test!!!