First Cycle of Katanadrol Only

[netwt]

What's good guys!

I am a complete beginner to anabolics and prohormones, but a good friend of mine went through a couple of cycles (hdrol+Kanadrol) and he recommended I run my first cycle with Katanadrol only for 6-8 weeks and post a thread up for advice.

I did as much research as I could for the past week, but Im sure I haven't covered it all, so let me know what you guys think of my plans and see if anything I can implement differently that will ensure that this is the best cycle as it could be. Because I am thinking that this might be the first and only cycle for me due to my family having a history of heart problems (mom had mild heart inf, I have naturally high cholesterol (found this while taking Accutane), my glucose level is prediabetic high, and I take Ritalin 20 mg 1-2x a day. I also smoke marijuana often, sometimes daily or every other day.

So since this might be my only cycle, at least for a while or until I know more of this art and can know for sure all potential problems regarding my family history and conditions, I want to get the most out of it.

Age 27, 5'8.5'' 147 lbs, 10.5% bf
-been working out for 5-6 years
-start to lift more seriously in last 3 years, and focus on nutrition and diet (game changer) in last year or 2.

I bought 4 bottles from an eBay seller because my friend told me the newer versions have different formulas after the ban, so look for the old active ingredients. Well I bought 4 bottles of Katanadrol but only 2 bottles was the old version (3a-hydroxy-5a-androstan-17-one ) dated 2013 and the other 2 was the newer (1-andro, 3b-hydroxy-androst-1-ene-17-one ) w muscle research brand on it date 2015. But then I found a thread saying that Katanadrol was not ban and the 2 versions are the same. IS THIS TRUE?

My plan:

8 week cycle of Katanadrol only
3/4/4/4 4/4/4/4

As for cycle support and PCT I was planning on getting the Katanadrol Cutting Stack package

(for 30days)
1-4 Katanadrol v3.0 - 2 capsules spread throughout the day.
1-4 Keto Burn - 1 capsule 3 times a day: morning, afternoon, and night.
1-4 MHO Poppers - 1 tablet 2 times a day: morning and night.
3-6 Test Infusion (option) - Take 3 capsules 2 times a day: morning and night.
4-8 Forged Post Cycle - 2 capsules 2 times a day: morning and night.
5-6 MHO Poppers - 1 tablet 2 times a day: morning and night

-Do I need to get more of everything else besides katanadrol since im running 8 weeks? or do I just get extra keto and mho for during the cycle and keep pct amount the same?
-I am assuming Test Infusion is recommended?
-is 8 weeks safe considering mrsupps recommend only 4?
-upping the dose to 5 dangerous at all?

-it seems like most ppl used Forma Stanzol in the past but the new formula is frowned upon? Some recommended clomid, Dermacrine, HCGenerate, SARMs, N2shampoo as Katanadrol is known to cause hair loss?
-do I need any of these or the mrsupps package is all I need? I read that Katanadrol is non-methylated and milder..
-what do you think of my health conditions above?
-the weed I can definitely stop, but I don't it's relevant since it's not related to liver or blood pressure or heart at least to what I know
-the Ritalin I don't think would contraindicate but it might race my heart levels too high...I can probably stay off it or try it and stop immediately taking Ritalin if I feel something wrong, what do you guys think?
-I plan on eating a little over maintenance bc Im going to grind hard and do tons of cardio and also I read that eating plenty of fats postcycle is a good idea?

I also plan to take multivitamin, fish oil, and creatine. My plan is to mainly get rid of my belly fat from years of abuse of eating whatever I want and drinking alcohol a ton in college, I let myself go I was always skinny fat. I can feel my abs a little now but the bottom belly fat is what I really want to get rid of by summer for the ladies haha

Any other advice on during cycle and pct? or what else I need to get? lifestyle, training or diet tips?

I asked the same question on another forum and replies indicate that I should try stronger products like sarms and katanadrol...

Appreciate you guys for reading this long post, look forward to hearing bro tips.

 

[jtmdell]

I'd ditch the weed, and if you can stop the Ritalin (if you really don't need it medically) it is very catabolic and it causes the body to release catecholamines which are catabolic and cause lots of oxidative stress.

Given all of your health problems, why do you want to use prohormones?

 

[netwt]

Thank you Jtm

I really do need the Ritalin for work. I will try it to use sparingly on cycle.

The main reason to use for me is to push down the last 2-3% bf to fully reveal my abs. I have been plateauing and I just want to get a boost. Any extra muscle mass would be amazing.

 

[Wolf123]

So, I'm wondering... why all these pro-hormones and not basic AAS's?

I'm old school, I don't trust anything too packaged and slicked up with broken promises. I like to recognize the chemicals I'm getting so I can research them properly.

Is this a price thing or availability?

 

[jtmdell]

Yeah I never cared for prohormones either, too many health problems associated with them. Plus a lot of people feel like shit on them too. Some people like them though.

This guy would probably benefit a lot more from a sarms triple stack, considering his goals

 

[netwt]

Hey wolf123 n jtm

Honestly, I am very new and just took my friend's advice. He said considering all my health concerns, I should try Katanadrol since it is milder than others.

I am assuming that AAS and stronger/methylated PH's would require more cycle support and pct and more importantly more risks.

I did watch a YouTube video Prohormone side effects long term By bios3training and he said PHs have the same side effects but might not work as well as AAS, this is what I'm inferring you trying to get at.

And yes I worry about sources and availability for aas, pricing is not that big of a factor if reasonable, reliability, credibility, safety, n effectiveness are my main concerns.

Another friend did tell me there are doctors who advertise to "low test" patients that I could try so that's one option. The other forum at evolutionary, guys are recommending sarms, but they seem to be reps of the company. I'm also looking into cycling sarms and katanadrol, what do you guys think?
If I get the sarms triple stack from sarms1 and stack it w Katanadrol, what would I need for cycle support and pct? HCGenerate es seem to be a must, clomid? What else? Thanks!