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First cycle of dianabol!

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Conquistador

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Hello,
I m 24 years old, height is 174 cm, weight is 155 lbs and my body fat is 11.38%. I have been working out for a very long time and it took me alot of dedication, hard work and cardio to finally get my six pack.
Now, i'm thinking about starting my first cycle of dianabol. I did alot of research and found that the best option would be to take 50 mg per day for 6 weeks. I will use nolvadex as my post cycle so i can keep my gains and prevent any major side effects.
My goal is to reach 170 lbs with a 10% body fat
I was wondering if this goal is realistic? also will i loose my abs if i take dianabol?
or what can i do to keep my abs and reach my goal?

any advice will be very appreciated!!

thank you all in advance :)
 
OK, @ 155lbs 50mg is way too much. start with 20mg and if you feel ok bump it to 30mg. 4-6 weeks max.
Forget about the nolvadex..you dont need it and its garbage.
Take N2GUARD from start of cycle right thru PCT.
forma stanzol,unleashed+post cycle and a natty test booster would be a better PCT.

your goal is to be to gain 15 lbs and drop body fat ? it wont happen with 6 weeks of dbol., your gains will be mostly water weight ( which will soon disappear after you finish the dbol ) but eat clean and train hard with the extra strength and you can definitely make some solid gains too.
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Your abs will still be there...only a shitty diet will mess that up.
 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ great advice from my man columbo... I HIGHLY doubt you have done a lot of research because everything you say is the complete opposite of what you want... nowhere would you have read to run dbol to gain weight and lose body fat... your dosage is too high... your pct is shit... you are just off in all of your thinking so there is no way you have done any sort of research... you need to run a test cycle with an oral to get where you want to be... dbol is not what you want for your goals...
 
U need to do more research. If you had, you would know a dbol only cycle is not reccomended. And as stated above, sounds like you should put some focus on diet/training before you start a cycle.

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Thank you all for all the important information you have shared
I've realized i still have a lot to learn!
i still have a few more questions :
1- why is nolvadex so bad?
2- could I just only use dianabol + n2guard without taking anything else?
or
3- test + dianabol + n2guard + anything else?? could nolvadex be used for this or there's no need still?
 
Conquistador said:
Thank you all for all the important information you have shared
I've realized i still have a lot to learn!
i still have a few more questions :
1- why is nolvadex so bad?
2- could I just only use dianabol + n2guard without taking anything else?
or
3- test + dianabol + n2guard + anything else?? could nolvadex be used for this or there's no need still?
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I also have a question. Why cant you read about nolvadex on your own? Search engine here, google ect.. Everyone wants an answer to questions they can search for themselves. Does the fact that Nolva can cause blood clots peak your interest in reading more?
 
Why don't you do more research to see why dbol is not going to give you what you want. It take your time improve your diet and workouts then do some juice. I don't think you are ready for aas, your body sure isnt and your lack of understanding of the basic drugs tells that mind isn't ready either.
 
how tall are you bro?

this is your 1st cycle..but how much experience do you have with proper diet and workout routine? without that no cycle will get to where you are looking to go brother

fuck dbol alone.. if its your first cycle, run test e or c alone, eat proper and train proper and you will gain like a champ.

if you must add an oral do test/dbol.. or test/superdrol/if you want to skip the bloating ..
 
dude from 155 lbs to 175 lbs is pretty easy to do without juicing. That being said, I would wait a year or so until you're 25 before you start juicing.
 
I think people really got the wrong idea about me but i really appreciate all of your posts.

I ve been training for maybe 4 years but only started training really seriously about one year now.
I used to weight 168 lbs and managed to cut down to 155 lbs in six months to get my six pack. I train 6 times a week, I bench 235 lbs , squat 295 lbs (which I find is really good considering I only weight 155 lbs and i mesure 174 cm) and I do cardio altleast twice a week. I have a low carb diet, count all my daily calories and i watch what i eat (no junk food, no sugar, no white bread, no white rice, etc).

I re did some research and came to the conclusion that dianabol alone with nolvadex was a stupid idea ! :S

I want to start test e with oral dianabol maybe 30 mg/ day for 6 weeks and add n2guard.. but which post cycle should i use? to be honest i already bought nolvadex :(
And do you guys think this cycle would be good?
i want to gain atleast 15 pounds of muscle (without counting the water or fat) and i'm willing to put all the effort neccesary to it
 
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Conquistador said:
I think people really got the wrong idea about me but i really appreciate all of your posts.

I ve been training for maybe 4 years but only started training really seriously about one year now.
I used to weight 168 lbs and managed to cut down to 155 lbs in six months to get my six pack. I train 6 times a week, I bench 235 lbs , squad 225 lbs (which I find is really good considering I only weight 155 lbs and i mesure 174 cm) and I do cardio altleast twice a week. I have a low carb diet, count all my daily calories and i watch what i eat (no junk food, no sugar, no white bread, no white rice, etc).

I re did some research and came to the conclusion that dianabol alone with nolvadex was a stupid idea ! :S

I want to start test e with oral dianabol maybe 30 mg/ day for 6 weeks and add n2guard.. but which post cycle should i use? to be honest i already bought nolvadex :(
And do you guys think this cycle would be good?
i want to gain atleast 15 pounds of muscle (without counting the water or fat) and i'm willing to put all the effort neccesary to it
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You bench more than you squat? At 168 why would you want to cut? IMO you're nowhere near ready for steroids. Like Traz said, 155-175 can be done naturally. Post up your diet (don't bullshit us) so we can help you. Either way, if you run a cycle without proper diet you won't reach your goals.
 
sorry that was a typo, i meant 295 lbs instead of 225 lbs for squats
and my diet consist of high quality protein from meat, chicken, eggs and i aslo take alot whey protein. It also contains high quality carbs such as oaths, beans, quinoa and etc. My calories intake was at 1940 per day to cut down and get my six pack which i never had before due to belly flab. Now that i have achieved that goal i will raise my calorie intake to about 3000 calories per day when i start my new cycle.

I want to start test e with oral dianabol maybe 30 mg/ day for 6 weeks and add n2guard.. but which post cycle should i use? to be honest i already bought nolvadex :(
And do you guys think this cycle would be good?
 
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okay
i will start my cycle this week
it will consist of
Test e 500 mg/week for 4 weeks
dianabol 30 mg/day for 6 weeks
N2guard as a cycle support from day 1 through post
nolvadex 2 weeks of pct

I will post pictures of before and after and a review of my cycle
if there's any suggestion or advice please let me know!
 
Conquistador said:
okay
i will start my cycle this week
it will consist of
Test e 500 mg/week for 4 weeks
dianabol 30 mg/day for 6 weeks
N2guard as a cycle support from day 1 through post
nolvadex 2 weeks of pct

I will post pictures of before and after and a review of my cycle
if there's any suggestion or advice please let me know!
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Test for only four weeks??? Still gonna use that pct after everyone told you not to??? Wtf
 
This is not looking good at all lol

Ok, seriously need to research A LOT MORE! Dbol should really be run for 4 weeks. Test e should be run for 10-12 weeks, not four! It takes four weeks just to kick in lol. And seriously stop talking about nova, it sucks.

But honestly, you don't need dbol or test at your size. You need to eat and train. 168 is very small and getting any smaller would just make you look like a little boy. Work on gaining 10 or 15 pounds and then ask about aas.

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I would drop the dbol. I tried it one time when I was in college. Yea, I blew up from it. But damn man... Its some tough stuff. And basically u won't keep any of what you see. Especially if you don't do everything right.

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Conquistador said:
okay
i will start my cycle this week
it will consist of
Test e 500 mg/week for 4 weeks
dianabol 30 mg/day for 6 weeks
N2guard as a cycle support from day 1 through post
nolvadex 2 weeks of pct

I will post pictures of before and after and a review of my cycle
if there's any suggestion or advice please let me know!
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No No No.

Listen take some advice but if you're going to do it regardless i'd probably say -

Test e - 500mg/ew 10wks.
Dbol - 30mg/ed - 4wks.
Get some clomid for PCT.
 
I spent countless hours looking at different sites on the internet and asked many of my friends who have done AAS before... people's opinions changes every time... Some say clomid, others nolva, nolva + clomid and others say unleashed...
i did my research and i have tried clomid before...and its shit! gave me mutant pimples..
The best pct depends really on personal opinion.

DONT WRITE ANYTHING IF YOU ARE GOING TO SAY READ MORE AND NOT GIVING ANY USEFUL ADVICE!!!!!

now in the other hand, thanks to the people who gave me constructive criticism and at least gave me some hints, useful info or ideas.

I will do more research to find different cycles for test e and dianabol
 
how about this cycle?

test e - 500mg/ew 10wks. (week 1- 10)
Dbol - 30mg/ED - 5wks. (week 1-5)
N2guard - 8 wks. (week 2-9)
pct: Nolva - 2 wks. (week 12-14)
 
Conquistador said:
how about this cycle?

test e - 500mg/ew 10wks. (week 1- 10)
Dbol - 30mg/ED - 5wks. (week 1-5)
N2guard - 8 wks. (week 2-9)
pct: Nolva - 2 wks. (week 12-14)
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Listen up junior..... Nolvadex is fucking garbage? Why? It has a laundry list of side effects. The best one is that it can give you blood clots in the legs/lungs. Guess what AAS does? It increases blood volume and in most cases blood viscosity. Does that soound like a good combination? Does it? Thicker and more blood combined with a drug that can cause blood clots? Use your fucking head. That not enough?
Do you understand that your body NEEDS estrogen? Estrogen balances everything. It lubes our joints. it keeps us from feeling like shit. Nolvadex will kill all of it. Sound like a good idea?
So your going to take NO HCG or an equivilent right....and have nuts the size of raisins. Then your going to go into PCT with raisin nuts that are shut off. Now your going to take nolva and kill all your estrogen. Great fucking idea. What does nolva do to help turn your natural test production back on? Oh yeah...NOTHING. So on top of feeling like shit because you will have no natural test booster happening your going to make yourself feel even worse by murdering all your estrogen. Smart. Then...your going to ask your raisin nuts to magically on their own...somehow turn themselves back on after they magically come back to full size.....because you didnt help them with HCG or an equivilent.
You have no idea wtf your talking about. You want to listen to these fucking morons on other boards that your reading then fine. Enjoy yourself. You want to run a proper PCT that will let you retain the most gains AND not make you feel like dog shit?

1) You need a natty test booster. I would recommend Phyto347 cause it works. But it has magically tripled in price. So you'll have to find another one.

2) you need HCG or Hcgenerate they do the same thing. So your nuts can be full size going into PCT. Do you understand that its a thousand times easier for your nuts to start working again when they are FULL SIZE!!

3) Running something to increase your free test levels. Like Unleashed. Yes its a supp. It works. How do i know? I use it. I dont sell it, buy it wherever the fuck you want.

4) HMG. Read about it. If you can get it it will be a big big weapon in a very successful PCT

5) DAA.... Some guys love it. If you want to run it then read about it and run it.

6) clomid. if you dont like it...leave it out. Your not missing anything.

7) something to control estrogen during the first week or two on PCT. COntrol...NOT KILL. Arimidex at .25mg EOD or E3D. That would be my last choice. Aromasin would be a better choice. Or you could go with Forma...its natty but it works.

You dont even make any mention of having an AI on hand incase you bloat or get gyno symptoms while on cycle. Piss poor planning. Oh and guess what....the PCT is going to cost alot more than the cycle. I would bet thats a big factor in you wanting to run a shitty PCT is it not? Thats usually the case.

You really need to get your shit together before you get into this cycle or you may as well throw it in the garbage.
 
Thank you for all the information about a good pct
I will drop the nolva and try clomid again since is easier for my to purchase and add hcg before pct
i have to admit this cycle is costing a lot of money( around 500$)

What do you guys think about this cycle? hopefully is better

test e - 500mg/ew 10wks. (week 1- 10)
Dbol - 30mg/ED - 6 wks. (week 1-6)
N2guard - 8 wks.(week 2-9) cycle support
HCGenerate - 2 wks (week 10 - 12) before pct
PCT: clomid - 2 wks. (week 12-14)

Any suggestion?
 
Conquistador said:
Thank you for all the information about a good pct
I will drop the nolva and try clomid again since is easier for my to purchase and add hcg before pct
i have to admit this cycle is costing a lot of money( around 500$)

What do you guys think about this cycle? hopefully is better

test e - 500mg/ew 10wks. (week 1- 10)
Dbol - 30mg/ED - 6 wks. (week 1-6)
N2guard - 8 wks.(week 2-9) cycle support
HCGenerate - 2 wks (week 10 - 12) before pct
PCT: clomid - 2 wks. (week 12-14)

Any suggestion?
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NO....what the fuck do you not get? Clomid will not restart your natural test. Nor will it be enough for PCT. 2 weeks os not pct. 4 weeks minimum!!! You have no natural test booster either. Still no AI for PCT or on cycle??? WTF...
Hc generate....if your going to bother buying it...should be run right through PCT. 6 weeks from cycle end til end of pct. It doesnt suppress like HCG and it has many many other benefits towards good blood work and a successful PCT that HCG doesnt have.
This isnt a game to play if you want to be cheap about it.
 
Hey corpse. Very New to posting here. Just want to ask and maybe help clear things up for the OP. What would your cycle look LIKE, trying to use the same base he is going for. I agree with you 100%. Just trying to make it more informative from your posts. HELP CAN ONLY BE GIVEN. they will in the end do as they wish.

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boostnsubaru said:
Hey corpse. Very New to posting here. Just want to ask and maybe help clear things up for the OP. What would your cycle look LIKE, trying to use the same base he is going for. I agree with you 100%. Just trying to make it more informative from your posts. HELP CAN ONLY BE GIVEN. they will in the end do as they wish.

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The cycle itself is fine. If it were me personally and my first cycle then I would run 250-300mg test not 500 for 12 weeks not 10. If I had access to it all then I would run N2guard on cycle or lipid stabil. I would not run an AI on cycle because i am not gyno suceptable. But being my first cycle I wouldnt know that si I would have aromasin or adex on hand.
I would blast large pins of HCG in the two weeks prior to pct. Then I would run HCgenerate during the 4 WEEK not 2 week PCT. Everything else I would run as I said.
 
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