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First Cycle Help?

if you stay on 450 and it takes a month to get the adex which it could you may grow tits. if this happens you may need surgery. its a bad idea.
 
this is what i would do now.

drop the test down to 150mg ew until you get the following.

adex in case you get estro sides from 4rx.com
clomid 25mg e3d while on cycle from 4rx.com if you chose ems shipping it will come pretty fast.

pct: start 1 weak after your last shot
nolvadex 40mg ed for 3 weaks then 20mg ed for 1 weak from 4rx.com
also get pp trs from primordialperformance.com to run during pct

once you have all of this then bump your test back up for your cycle.

Dont forget the HCG!

JoeD, why run clomid E3D "during" ?? Just curious?
 
Dont forget the HCG!

JoeD, why run clomid E3D "during" ?? Just curious?

keeps your nuts full and makes recovery easier. no need for hcg. no negative sides either. as with everything dosage may vary from person to person. that worked verry well for me.
 
keeps your nuts full and makes recovery easier. no need for hcg. no negative sides either. as with everything dosage may vary from person to person. that worked verry well for me.

No shit! Hmmm. Thats interesting. I have actually never used clomid. The talk of the sides actually scare me. This was back when the clomid PCT was advised at 300/150/50 or whatever it was.
 
No shit! Hmmm. Thats interesting. I have actually never used clomid. The talk of the sides actually scare me. This was back when the clomid PCT was advised at 300/150/50 or whatever it was.

i pct'd with clomid 50 ed from the start and hated it. i had a 24-7 head ache and was depressed. normally i am always happy and seldom get headaches. doing the 25mg e3d was always with no sides at all.
 
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