First Cycle Help?

[Joewilson23]

Started first cycle two days ago. Pinning 450mg test cyp ew. Basically need to know everything I need for pct. Yes stupid i have heard to start without it. But I have plenty of the test so I can stop and start another time if absolutely necessary.

What should I be taking? When should I be taking it? How much should I be taking? and how attainable are such items? etc.

I was told by my source that I could just use nolva for a couple weeks when im done and I would be fine. After some research and questioning I'm guessing thats not all I will need. On top of that not sure how attainable nolva or anything else is really. Didnt have any types of trouble attaining the test so I would guess the pct stuff should be fairly easy to get if I just knew for sure what I needed.

Need Help!!
Thamks in advance!

 

[therugger]

OK, I'm not tryin to be a dick but somethings I have to say first it was a VERY bad idea to start without having PCT on hand! Also sounds to me like you did not do anywhere enough research before you just dove in blind. But that said I'm gonna help you get it right cause you're gonna run the cycle either way. First we need alot more info.

1 First we need age/weight/training history
2 Idea on your diet
3 How is your cycle set up, what are you taking and for how long.

Post this info and I'll try to help you out bro

 

[Joewilson23]

I realize how dumb it is and no I dont have to run it. I can stop and pick up items and start again. Just dont really want to if I dont have to.
I am 25 I am 5'11" I weigh 185 pretty lean i.e. decent muscle seperation.
I have been training 5 years off and on. Pretty steady for 2 and 6 days a wk for the last year.
I eat between 3500 and 4000 calories a day not perfect but pretty clean as I try to get 1.5-2 gms of protein per pound of bw and around 1 gm of fats per pound and not really a carb counter.
I have taken multiple otc prohormone cycles and stacks and tired of not so awesome results. But never had many problems with any sides and not a lot of gain loss as I do bust my ass in the gym.
Didn't do a lot of research but did do some. Guess i just wasn't as worried about pct as I should have been.
Just figured I would pick something up shortly into the cycle and that would be good.
As for what I am doing. I am pinning 450mg test cyp/week for 10 weeks. as it seems test only is advised for first cycle. I am sticking to my delts I believe because thats what i pinned first and that was just two days ago. No pain whatssoever with 1.5cc small bruise the next day but still able to push my lifts with my shoulders just fine so i like that spot.

 

[joe d]

this is what i would do now.

drop the test down to 150mg ew until you get the following.

adex in case you get estro sides from 4rx.com
clomid 25mg e3d while on cycle from 4rx.com if you chose ems shipping it will come pretty fast.

pct: start 1 weak after your last shot
nolvadex 40mg ed for 3 weaks then 20mg ed for 1 weak from 4rx.com
also get pp trs from primordialperformance.com to run during pct

once you have all of this then bump your test back up for your cycle.

 

[Dominator Human]

First thing you need to do is to read the Sticky Taking Steroids 101.
You will find some very useful information there regarding cycles and PCT.

If you have enough Test for 10 weeks and have access to the stuff you need for PCT than I would say you shouldn't stop now.
Even thought you just took one shot I think it would be enough to suppress your natural production of Test and right now you don't have any Nolva or Clomid.

 

[therugger]

Ok, well seems like you could have still went for some more gains naturally, but that's true of most peopple. That you went for test only on your first cycle was a good idea. This way you know how you react to test. As you add other compounds on later cycles only add one new compouns at a time. that way you will always know whwere new unexpected side effwcts come from. 450 a week split into 2 shots a weeks is the way to go. Pct you need to get you hands on ASAP though. At least you should have HCG as well as Nolva. This will propably be enough. I prefer to run small doses of HCG throughout, but you can also go with using it half way through then torwards the end. But if you do it that wat run HCG at the back end of you cycle but not afterit while your on Nolva because HCG keep natty test production down as well. You need to allow a couple weeks for test to clear your system before you start nolva. When I used to do HCG the split way I ran it the last week of test shots and then during the 2 weeks I was letting test clear.

 

[therugger]

But in an optimal world if it were me I would run clomid as well as nolv. Also I would keep Adex on hand in case of bloat, I run a small dose thoughout to avoid it. Also have extra nolv on hand in case gyno shows up to crash the party.

 

[Joewilson23]

All the help is very appreciated. I understand the more natural gains but I am a very hardgainer if you believe that term. I have a very high natural metabolism which is why I believe i have some of the trouble gaining. So if I have this right I need adex just in case. And would the nolva and or clomid not be fine to use afterwards. as far as it suppressing my natural test with one shot I'm not that worried about because my understanding of cyp is it is slow acting esters and wouldnt really be in effect until a few weeks in. SO if i get this stuff asap which is the plan as soon as i have a solid list of items I will be fine anyway.

tHANKS AGAIN.

 

[therugger]

I honestly would stay on and get nolv, clomid, and hcg Asap. You messed up out of the gate not researcxhing but your gonna be fine, there is a lot of knowledge on this site to help you out. Also feel free to PM me as well if you have more questions,. And get real familiar with the search feature. It's all gonna be good happy growing!!!

 

[Joewilson23]

Thanks again