Mortalitis
New member
Hi guys, first post on here, and just needed some first cycle help/advice.
I've always been quite a well built guy and since starting to play american football and switching to linebacker I've just wanted to get some serious size.
Before the cycle I had been going to the gym regularly for about 8 months, on a goo 4 day split routine:
*each exercise is 4 sets of 8 reps. At the weight which would almost make me fail on the last set, when I can get through the last set I go up another 5/10kg on everything*
Mon: Chest & Biceps
Bench Press
Incline Bench
Bench fly
Incline fly
Single arm press
Bar curl
seated curls
hammers
Tues: Back & Triceps
Lat pull down
Seated row
Lat pull down (close grip)
Tricep rope pull down (machine)
Tricep bar push down (machine)
Seated tricep press
Weds:
American football practice, (mainly going through the playbook and formations, no more than 20mins cardio)
Thurs: Shoulders & traps
Military press
Seated Lateral raise
Seated row (top grip)
Lateral raise
Shoulder raise
Shrugs
rear shrugs
face pulls
Fri: Legs
Squat
Leg press
Leg extensions
Lunges
Calf raises
Sat: rest/gameday
Sun: Gameday/Training (conditioning)
Diet
Breakfast
2 Tablets - My Protein Thermopure
50g – Granola/Muesli = 4g Protein / 35g Carbs
¼ - Greek Yoghurt = 9g Protein / 6g Carbs
Assorted Fruits
1 Tablet – My Protein CLA
5g serving, 2 scoops – My Protein BCAA
1 Tablet - Nutisport Creatine = 1g Creatine
30g serving, 1 spoon - My Protein Hurricane Evo = 16.5g Protein / 1.25g Creatine / 7g Carbs
30g serving, 1 spoon - Body Supreme Whey Protien = 20g Protein / 2.5g Carbs
40g serving, 1 spoon - Nutrisport Shake = 36g Protein / 2g Carbs
Protein/Creatine/Carbs intake = 76.5g / 2.25g / 52g
Lunch
1 Tablet – My Protein Thermopure
1 – Egg = 6g Protein / 0.5g Carbs
¼ Cup – Peas = 2g Protein / 14g Carbs
Handful – Rice/Pasta = 2.5g Protein / 20g Carbs
3 – Broccoli Florets = 3g Protein / 6g Carbs
1 – Chicken Breast = 42g Protein
Protein/Creatine/Carbs intake = 61.5g / na / 40.5g
Pre Workout
1 Tablet – Nutrisport Creatine = 1g Creatine
30g serving, 1 spoon - My Protein Impact Whey Deluxe = 22g Protein / 2g Carbs
Protein/Creatine/Carbs intake = 22g / 1g / 2g
Post Workout
2 – Eggs = 12g Protein / 1g Carbs
¼ Cup – Peas = 2g Protein / 14g Carbs
Handful – Rice/Pasta = 2.5g Protein / 20g Carbs
3 – Broccoli Florets = 3g Protein / 6g Carbs
1 – Chicken Breast = 42g Protein
1 Tablet – My Protein CLA
5g serving, 2 scoops – My Protein BCAA
5g serving, 2 scoops – My Protein Creatine Mono = 5g Creatine
30g serving, 1 spoon - My Protein Hurricane Evo = 16.5g Protein / 1.25g Creatine / 7g Carbs
40g serving, 1 spoon - Nutrisport Shake = 36g Protein / 2g Carbs
Protein/Creatine/Carbs intake = 130.5g/ 6.25g / 9g
Tea
¼ Cup – Peas = 2g Protein / 14g Carbs
Handful – Rice/Pasta = 2.5g Protein / 20g Carbs
3 – Broccoli Florets = 3g Protein / 6g Carbs
2 – Fish Fillet = 44g Protein / 2g Carbs
30g serving, 1 spoon - Body Supreme Whey Protein = 20g Protein / 2.5g Carbs
Protein/Creatine/Carbs intake = 71.5g / na / 58.5g
Supper
50g – Granola/Muesli = 4g Protein / 35g carbs
¼ - Greek Yoghurt = 9g Protein / 6g Carbs
Assorted Fruits
Protein/Creatine/Carbs intake = 13g / na / 41g
TOTAL Protein/Creatine/Carbs intake = 445g / 9.5g / 203g
(works out at about 3,500 calories a day)
The cycle I am on is
[4 weeks] "Pro Pharma Test Enanthate 300" injecting 1ml on the monday, 0.5ml on the thursday
[8 weeks] "Pro Pharma Tri Test 400, test ethanate 120mg, test cypionate 120mg, test deconate 120mg" injecting 1ml on the monday, 0.5ml on the thursday
Wanted to get peoples advice on the above.
Also
When I started the new year I was 11.11 stone 155lbs, but going to the gym and sticking to this diet I was 14 stone 196lbs by mid April (I used to be 188lbs so I'm guessing a lot of that was muscle memory)
I'm only on my 3rd week in the cycle and I keep floating around 14 stone 196lbs and 14.3 stone 200lbs, and have been doing so since April. But I seem to be loosing about a lbs a week on this cycle, is this due to me taking the CLA/Thermopure (fat burners) and I'm loosing fat faster than I am putting on muscle? or is there something I'm doing wrong?. (I am looking a lot more defined since taking these fat burners, and I'm guessing I'm burning fat faster than I am putting on muscle, even though I am getting bigger.
I do realise my steroids will only start to physically show this week, just wanted to get some advice on my diet/routine and the fact I seem to be loosing weight, yet eating like a fucking rhino.
[EDIT] My target weight is 16/17 stone about 230lbs
I've always been quite a well built guy and since starting to play american football and switching to linebacker I've just wanted to get some serious size.
Before the cycle I had been going to the gym regularly for about 8 months, on a goo 4 day split routine:
*each exercise is 4 sets of 8 reps. At the weight which would almost make me fail on the last set, when I can get through the last set I go up another 5/10kg on everything*
Mon: Chest & Biceps
Bench Press
Incline Bench
Bench fly
Incline fly
Single arm press
Bar curl
seated curls
hammers
Tues: Back & Triceps
Lat pull down
Seated row
Lat pull down (close grip)
Tricep rope pull down (machine)
Tricep bar push down (machine)
Seated tricep press
Weds:
American football practice, (mainly going through the playbook and formations, no more than 20mins cardio)
Thurs: Shoulders & traps
Military press
Seated Lateral raise
Seated row (top grip)
Lateral raise
Shoulder raise
Shrugs
rear shrugs
face pulls
Fri: Legs
Squat
Leg press
Leg extensions
Lunges
Calf raises
Sat: rest/gameday
Sun: Gameday/Training (conditioning)
Diet
Breakfast
2 Tablets - My Protein Thermopure
50g – Granola/Muesli = 4g Protein / 35g Carbs
¼ - Greek Yoghurt = 9g Protein / 6g Carbs
Assorted Fruits
1 Tablet – My Protein CLA
5g serving, 2 scoops – My Protein BCAA
1 Tablet - Nutisport Creatine = 1g Creatine
30g serving, 1 spoon - My Protein Hurricane Evo = 16.5g Protein / 1.25g Creatine / 7g Carbs
30g serving, 1 spoon - Body Supreme Whey Protien = 20g Protein / 2.5g Carbs
40g serving, 1 spoon - Nutrisport Shake = 36g Protein / 2g Carbs
Protein/Creatine/Carbs intake = 76.5g / 2.25g / 52g
Lunch
1 Tablet – My Protein Thermopure
1 – Egg = 6g Protein / 0.5g Carbs
¼ Cup – Peas = 2g Protein / 14g Carbs
Handful – Rice/Pasta = 2.5g Protein / 20g Carbs
3 – Broccoli Florets = 3g Protein / 6g Carbs
1 – Chicken Breast = 42g Protein
Protein/Creatine/Carbs intake = 61.5g / na / 40.5g
Pre Workout
1 Tablet – Nutrisport Creatine = 1g Creatine
30g serving, 1 spoon - My Protein Impact Whey Deluxe = 22g Protein / 2g Carbs
Protein/Creatine/Carbs intake = 22g / 1g / 2g
Post Workout
2 – Eggs = 12g Protein / 1g Carbs
¼ Cup – Peas = 2g Protein / 14g Carbs
Handful – Rice/Pasta = 2.5g Protein / 20g Carbs
3 – Broccoli Florets = 3g Protein / 6g Carbs
1 – Chicken Breast = 42g Protein
1 Tablet – My Protein CLA
5g serving, 2 scoops – My Protein BCAA
5g serving, 2 scoops – My Protein Creatine Mono = 5g Creatine
30g serving, 1 spoon - My Protein Hurricane Evo = 16.5g Protein / 1.25g Creatine / 7g Carbs
40g serving, 1 spoon - Nutrisport Shake = 36g Protein / 2g Carbs
Protein/Creatine/Carbs intake = 130.5g/ 6.25g / 9g
Tea
¼ Cup – Peas = 2g Protein / 14g Carbs
Handful – Rice/Pasta = 2.5g Protein / 20g Carbs
3 – Broccoli Florets = 3g Protein / 6g Carbs
2 – Fish Fillet = 44g Protein / 2g Carbs
30g serving, 1 spoon - Body Supreme Whey Protein = 20g Protein / 2.5g Carbs
Protein/Creatine/Carbs intake = 71.5g / na / 58.5g
Supper
50g – Granola/Muesli = 4g Protein / 35g carbs
¼ - Greek Yoghurt = 9g Protein / 6g Carbs
Assorted Fruits
Protein/Creatine/Carbs intake = 13g / na / 41g
TOTAL Protein/Creatine/Carbs intake = 445g / 9.5g / 203g
(works out at about 3,500 calories a day)
The cycle I am on is
[4 weeks] "Pro Pharma Test Enanthate 300" injecting 1ml on the monday, 0.5ml on the thursday
[8 weeks] "Pro Pharma Tri Test 400, test ethanate 120mg, test cypionate 120mg, test deconate 120mg" injecting 1ml on the monday, 0.5ml on the thursday
Wanted to get peoples advice on the above.
Also
When I started the new year I was 11.11 stone 155lbs, but going to the gym and sticking to this diet I was 14 stone 196lbs by mid April (I used to be 188lbs so I'm guessing a lot of that was muscle memory)
I'm only on my 3rd week in the cycle and I keep floating around 14 stone 196lbs and 14.3 stone 200lbs, and have been doing so since April. But I seem to be loosing about a lbs a week on this cycle, is this due to me taking the CLA/Thermopure (fat burners) and I'm loosing fat faster than I am putting on muscle? or is there something I'm doing wrong?. (I am looking a lot more defined since taking these fat burners, and I'm guessing I'm burning fat faster than I am putting on muscle, even though I am getting bigger.
I do realise my steroids will only start to physically show this week, just wanted to get some advice on my diet/routine and the fact I seem to be loosing weight, yet eating like a fucking rhino.
[EDIT] My target weight is 16/17 stone about 230lbs