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First Cycle / Complication

Johnny R

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Hey guys, hope this is the right place for this as it's my first time posting! Sorry for the novel but I feel like it's better that you get all the facts.

I started my first cycle 20 days ago, injecting 250mg of tren e and 200mg of test every four days, however I learned last week that the test I got wasn't 100% legitimate; bottle read 200mg of propionate, 100mg of enanthate and 100mg of cypionate. The person that gave it to me said it's still test, it's just not as strong as it claims to be.

Upon learning that this fucking mystery potion wasn't as potent as it should be, I decided to finish off the remainder of the vial quicker and get some real test cypionate from a trusted source, so that's what I did.

I know this seems like a gong show for a first cycle and I probably should have asked for advice sooner from the people here, but fuck it, what's done is done.

I logged all my injections / dosages;

Every four days from June 04 to June 19th: Trenbolone E 250mg & "Mystery" Testosterone 200mg. Then I finished off the sketchy test.

June 21: "Mystery" Testosterone 200mg
June 22: Trenbolone E 250mg
June 23 "Mystery" Testosterone 200mg

I take my tren tomorrow as scheduled and now I have 100% legitimate test cypionate, should I dose it with the tren or should I wait? Any helpful advice would be GREATLY appreciated! :confused:
 
Bro there are a lot of things wrong here. First of all, we need your stats, it's forum rules here when looking for advice. Why are you running Tren for your first cycle? Tren is nothing to be taken lightly and is the strongest AAS out there with the worst side effects, and it's reserved for advanced users. Injecting all of that Test you thought was bunk isn't very smart either. You are not 100% certain what you have is legit! underdosed or what but you finished it off "quicker"? Doesn't make sense to me to do that

I didn't see any supports listed. Are you running an AI on cycle to control estrogen? Are you running an anti-prolactin with your Tren? These are things you NEED unless you want gyno.

I really hope you have a solid PCT lined up if you want any chance at recovery. You need to run a solid PCT as soon as your cycle is over

Optimal PCT for best recovery:

Liquid Clomid 50/50/25/25 (AncillaryGuys // AG-Guys.com - The #1 online Natural Ancillary retailer!)
Liquid Aromasin (AncillaryGuys // AG-Guys.com - The #1 online Natural Ancillary retailer!)
Test Stack 17 or Phytoserms (PM me or see threads below for info and discounts) http://w3.teststackrx.com/102.html
Ostarine 25mg per day (SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators)


http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...17-not-your-average-test-booster-1257533.html

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...hytoserms-347-347-beyond-natural-1260633.html
 
I would suggest stopping everything your doing, run the pct that Rick laid out which is perfect and reboot, if you find out your shit is no good don't just keep using it especially running it up with tren , if your using full strength tren and under dosed test your going to go into a tail spin my friend with horrific side effects. Stop everything, pct and when and if you do start back, always always have everything on hand before you start and don't buy shit your not sure about and lastly you need some support on a cycle like this AI is a must and I would stick with test for a while, good luck
 
Everyone speaks so negatively of the side effects, and I'm fully aware they're real, but don't you think shit would be starting to hit the fan by week 3 (which is what I'm on) if something were going south? I'm gaining 1 - 1.5 lbs a day right now and my body is changing in a very positive way. Mentally I feel fantastic and physically I've never looked better. The only side effects that I'm getting so far have been some sleepless nights because I've been getting hot and shortness of breath when doing cardio.

It's hard to just stop something that has been going so incredibly well.

Obviously this was a poorly planned out experiment but I was lead on by someone who I thought knew what they were talking about and since I've learned that person doesn't know as much as I thought, I've been having to do my own research and wing it a bit.
 
You shouldn't be taking tren first cycle. .. stop tren now just run the cup at 500mg for 10-12 weeks..I'd add gw and s4 from sarms1 and Def get aromasin from Agguys. .I'd take n2guard and hcgenerate through out.. could add Oxandavar last 4 weeks to
 
Everyone speaks so negatively of the side effects, and I'm fully aware they're real, but don't you think shit would be starting to hit the fan by week 3 (which is what I'm on) if something were going south? I'm gaining 1 - 1.5 lbs a day right now and my body is changing in a very positive way. Mentally I feel fantastic and physically I've never looked better. The only side effects that I'm getting so far have been some sleepless nights because I've been getting hot and shortness of breath when doing cardio.

It's hard to just stop something that has been going so incredibly well.

Obviously this was a poorly planned out experiment but I was lead on by someone who I thought knew what they were talking about and since I've learned that person doesn't know as much as I thought, I've been having to do my own research and wing it a bit.

Depends of if it's tren eth or tren ace, the enanthate ester will be just starting to work while the ace need injecting 3 times per week and sides from tren will occur the question is when, sometimes everything is good until the end of the cycle then shit hits the fan. This was not a steroid recommended for a first cycle.
 
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