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First Cycle and want to make sure I'm doing it right

RichV

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Hi Everyone,
I'm brand new to this forum and also to Steroids, and found by reading various other forums that people here really takes things seriously and know what they are talking about.

I'm sure I am not the only who's come knocking and looking for advice, but like I mentioned...this will be my first cycle. I am a little nervous about doing everything right. Which means: trying to get the most out of cycle, while observing the fewest side-effects and hopefully not accidentally causing problems for my body.

I have read the stickies, especially the 101 of steroid use.

A little about myself:
I'm 24, 6'4" and weigh 222 lbs. I currently have about 15% body fat and have no health issues.
I consume about 4500 calories daily (200grm Protein, 600grm Carbs, 161grm Fats)
This will be my first cycle. Wanted to go for 12 weeks.

I currently got a hold of Nandrolone Decanoate (300mg/ml) and Sustanon (250mg/ml).

My Questions were as follows:
1)I was planning on taking 400mg/wk of Deca and 250mg/wk of Sustanon. I came to these amounts by reading through blogs and pages on-line. Has anyone had experience with stacking these two and would that be a suggestible amount to get the best results from my cycle?

2)I was planning on taking Deca on Monday, and then Sustanon every Monday and Thursday (total of 250mg/wk) so that my testosterone levels don't fluctuate too much from the specific blend of Sustanon. Should I be spreading out the Deca as well?

3)Since it is my first cycle, should I start at lower dosages of both...so my body can adjust to it? or simply jump in starting the first week? like 200mg of deca and 150mg of sustanon for the first week?

4)In the 101 Stickie...I should be using a different needle to draw from the bottle, then when injecting? and if so...25G needle can be used for both?

5)Can I use the same Syringe for taking the Sustanon and Deca? and how long can I keep a Syringe for?

6)I was also planning on starting to take Arimidex after about the 4th week to fight of estrogen and increase testosterone. When should I stop? when starting with an HCG?

7) What HCG would be recommended to take with this particular stack ? and from reading...should be started 6 weeks before the end of the cycle?

8)Lastly, I'm kinda having trouble wrapping my head around the PCT in the stickies. If I'm using the HCG...all I will need is a TRS in my pct?

Sorry to Blast you guys with all these questions, but I have all these concerns running through my head. If there is anything I forgot to mention...please feel free to ask.

And thanks again for any help you guys can give.
 
1)Those dosages are perfect for a first cycle.
2)Thats fine to inject like that, dont have to spread out the deca its a long ester so once a week is fine.
3)Keep the doses the same, dont ramp up or down
4)You dont have to use a different needle to draw and inject, I dont and its no big deal. but if you must use a 22 or 23 gauge, a 25 is pretty small and will be hard to get the oil through
5)Yes, but throw the syringe away after you use it, dont reuse syringes or preload them and let them sit around before you inject.
6)You probably wont need arimidex with a cycle that light, but I would say if you think youre getting gyno use the Adex. just make sure to use HCG for PCT when your done
7)For this cycle, start the HCG a week after your last injection and run for 2-3 weeks
8)For PCT all you will need is HCG and possibly nolvadex but your pretty big and this cycle is low dose so it probably wont shut you down as hard as it would a guy whos 185.
 
looks like you're asking for deca dick if you ask me. Drop the deca atleast 2 weeks before the sust

i'd probably drop the deca down to 300mg/wk as well.
 
For your first cycle I wouldn't use any deca. I would simply run your sust at 500mg per week for ten weeks divided into two shots one Monday one Thursday. The Deca will not get old or anything just store it and use it later on down the road. 500mg/week of test is the perfect first cycle!
 
For your first cycle I wouldn't use any deca. I would simply run your sust at 500mg per week for ten weeks divided into two shots one Monday one Thursday. The Deca will not get old or anything just store it and use it later on down the road. 500mg/week of test is the perfect first cycle!

why is deca not good for a first cycle? its safe and mild
 
Its way overboard in my opinion. If taken wrong like stated above this guys poor dick wouldnt work. Imagine taking 400mg deca and 250mg sust. 300mg of deca is plenty per week for someone that hasnt juiced much. Another thing the sust would need to be upped to at least 500mg per week to offset the deca dick. Not to mention the sust will need to be ran two weeks longer than the deca!
 
Thanks for the feedback and help guys. I did read about deca-dick and I guess its based on people not stacking it with any testosterone. Or at least not enough.

300mg/week deca and 500mg/week sust would be recommended for the first cycle?

Is it also true that with deca's half-life is about 3 weeks and takes 5-6 weeks for it to fully build up in your body? Would that mean I would only noticed real results once the deca has sufficiently build up in my system? or would the sust give me more immediate results?

And please do understand, I'm not looking for a magic cure or a way to 'cheat'. I understand that diet and working-out is jst as important as if not taking anything (if actually not more important) ....but I simply want to have an idea of what to expect.
 
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you'll notice results from the sust. Even once you stop deca you'll still benefit from it for a while afterwards because it stays in your system for so long.


I would personally just run test at 500mg/wk for 10 weeks for a first cycle. I know a few guys taht added deca their first go around as well. If you decide to add the deca i'd run 500 mg/wk test and 300mg/wk deca. Drop the deca 2 weeks prior to the test.
 
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