First AS cycle - Anavar and Proviron - please comment

[Bsolid2014]

I'm planning on starting my first AS cycle in the next few days. I've run some PH a few times before and did well. Wanted to see what the 'real' stuff can do.

I'm 37 y/o, 220lbs 6’ tall. Been lifting for years. Diet is at 2500 calls/day, with 30/20/50 fat/carb/protein ratios. I think I'm pretty carb/insulin sensitive, so try to keep carbs on lower side.

Here's my plan:
1-6 60mg Anavar ED
1-6 50mg Proviron ED
7-12 20mg Novaldex ED
7-12 50mg Proviron ED

Will be supplementing with:
Liver protection
Joint support
Flax oil


So, how does this look to people? Please don't tell me not to bother w an oral only cycle... This is what I'd like to do for now.


A couple of questions:

- should I run the Proviron all the way through? Or taper at the end and just do some time w Nolva alone?

- should I sup w creatine? I'm worried about counteracting the var getting me lean and looking too soft from it.

Thanks in advance to everyone who may chime in!

 

[RickRock13]

If you are looking to lean out, I would suggest adding GW to your cycle at 20mg per day. You can run it right through PCT as well. You can get it at SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators


Your PCT needs more than just Nolvadex

Liquid Clomid (you can use Nolva instead if you prefer) 50/50/25/25 (AncillaryGuys // AG-Guys.com - The #1 online Natural Ancillary retailer!)
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Ostarine 25mg per day (SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators)


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[Bsolid2014]

Thanks for the reply. In reading and talking to people I've heard many people just run nolva for pct and find it to be quite effective.

Others opinions?

Also, I should have mentioned my goal in this cycle: add some lean muscle mass while dropping body fat. Looking forward to the strength increases too.

 

[Mia305]

I think this is a good structured cycle bro, im running the same plus Clenbuterol. The cycle is structurred good man, if this is what you wanna do, i dont see why not. Nolvadex only for PCT is fine too, i'd would just run it differently 50/50/25/25 and i'd also add some sort of test booster since you're not running any test base, add something like PCT/Unleashed combi to the PCT, and i think it'd be perfect.

 

[RickRock13]

Thanks for the reply. In reading and talking to people I've heard many people just run nolva for pct and find it to be quite effective.

Others opinions?

Also, I should have mentioned my goal in this cycle: add some lean muscle mass while dropping body fat. Looking forward to the strength increases too.

Nolva or any serm alone provides only a temporary boost to test production, and your levels will crash as soon as you come off without a more extensive PCT. Serms only is an outdated practice that was done before any of the better PCT protocols we have today were available.

 

[Bsolid2014]

Nolva or any serm alone provides only a temporary boost to test production, and your levels will crash as soon as you come off without a more extensive PCT. Serms only is an outdated practice that was done before any of the better PCT protocols we have today were available.

Alright RickRock... I'm in.

Just ordered GW and Ostarine from sarms1... Got in on the buy 2 get one free deal. I have some time on the test booster for pct.

So, could you give me a specific recommended PCT dosage of the Nolva, Ostarine, and test booster? Would you recommended also staying on the pro iron pct... Or coming off?

Thanks for your help.

 

[STTM]

Looks decent.

I would pick up an AI and run in PCT.

 

[Bsolid2014]

Agreed I should include an AI to be safe. Though anavar is know to not be a amaste AS... But better safe than sorry.

Also... Liquiddex or liquidaromas from AG guys during pct?

Thanks!!!

 

[RickRock13]

Alright RickRock... I'm in.

Just ordered GW and Ostarine from sarms1... Got in on the buy 2 get one free deal. I have some time on the test booster for pct.

So, could you give me a specific recommended PCT dosage of the Nolva, Ostarine, and test booster? Would you recommended also staying on the pro iron pct... Or coming off?

Thanks for your help.

Liquid nolva 40/40/20/20 (AG guys)
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD (AG Guys)
Test stack- 3 caps per day
Ostarine 25mg ED

You can continue with your iron supplement just fine

 

[Chameleonchris]

I wouldn't run proviron in pct, I used to, but I found recovery better without.
I usually run like this
Anavar 80mg - 50mg morning and 30mg 1 hour pre workout
Proviron 50 mg
Albuterol from ag guys.

Pct
Clomid 50mg
Ostarine
Test booster phytoserms

I have never used an ai in pct for anavar personally. But rickrock is a smart guy so hopefully if he reads this he could explain the benefits?