Fina Orally or transdermally?

[jboldman]

Wrong! Transdermal can be very effective if done properly. Injected is more efficient.

you can do oral or transdermal, both will equally suck anyway. might as well just do your "oral winny only cycle"

you won't get shit from either way...

 

[jboldman]

Fina IS NOT WATER SOLUBLE so forget dissolving it in b12 or anything else that is water based. If it is applied with 99.9+% dmso, very little dmso is needed and you can avoid saran wraps and stinky body/breath. Irritated skin is most likely the most serious side efffect and you can help with that by adding a drop or two of glycerol.

I've been planning to do my second cycle with 100 mg./day administering half through a Phlojel wrap at night and half sublingully/orally around midday dissolved in liquid B-12 for 6-8 weeks depending on results and how well I'm able to fend off hairloss from it.

Based on my research on various websites and the reported experiences of guys here, here are my observations:

I can only recall one study as to the actual bioavailability/absorption rates of the methods. It only tested two -- oral/sublingual administration and DMSO transdermal. The oral method showed that blood levels peaked much higher than the transdermal method, but that the transdermal method brought about an elevation that was much more prolonged.

As far as end results go, people have been reporting good results from both methods at 75-125mg./day dosages. 10-15 lbs. and harder seems to be the norm. A lot of people say the transdermal method is messy and the DMSO makes their skin or breath stink. Some people say dissolving the tablets whole sublingually burns like a mo fray.

 

[Zyglamail]

so no more fucking gay replies.....if u dont know....FUCK OFF....

Allright, who pissed an hampers cheerios?!?!?!

 

[zen42]

Allright, who pissed an hampers cheerios?!?!?!

Not me, I use the sink.

Zen

 

[hamper19]

Allright, who pissed an hampers cheerios?!?!?!

hahaha
I was actually kinda drunk when i flew off the handle...I came home ast night and read it, and got pretty pissed......at least i finally got a good anser though...


h19

 

[drgoodbody]

Uhh...well I have first hand experience with both injection and transdermal application of Fina - but you apparently didn't believe what I was saying. From first hand experience, I can say that 200mg of TA applied transdermally per day gives you the same feeling/response as about 50mg injected. So roughly 25% absorption. Don't get pissed at me because it isn't any better than that - I wish it were.

DrG

 

[hamper19]

not pissed man......I just hear some people say that they got good results off 5 pellets a day w/dmso. Thats why i said 25% seems a little low. How did you come up with the conclusion, numbers wise?.....thanks for everyones help so far

h19

 

[drgoodbody]

ok here it goes. My rough conclusions are based on what I've experienced when using transdermally for 6 weeks vs. injection cycles of 6 weeks. I tend not to go longer than 6 weeks as I feel the recovery period is too long. The gains (weight & strength) that I get from say 200mg/day transdermal are similar to but a little less than 75mg/day injected. So I reason, as have others I've worked with on this, that I'm getting around 50mg/day absorbed transdermal.

Now for some numbers. You said people were getting gains off of 5 pellets a day - well that is possible. Here's why. One cartridge has 100 pellets and 2g of TA (2000mg). Hence one pellet has 20mg of TA. Five pellets are 100mg of TA, and if you use that everyday you may get 25 to say 50 mg (max IMHO) absorbed. So if you've never used TA before, then 5 pellets a day may do something for you. I would opt for 10 pellets a day. DMSO route is a little harsh on the skin, I prefer plogel/phlogel route, and I've also had good experience with the Androsol route (plus there you get the 4-AD which has some stacking effect).

Any way you look at it, topical can work, and it is simple and cheap. I would say 1/2 of my Fina use has been topical, the other half injectable. My new favorite is GAC Humatren - thankyou MK.

DrG

 

[the_paradise_garage]

you people seriously piss me off......dont fuckin responde to my posts if you arent answering my question.....no way is dmso with fina only give you 25% ....for all u fucks that say ....ok dont be a pussy and inject.....did u ever try it other wise...dont tell me there are studies done on TA/fina done transdermally or sublinguily (sp?).....don't tell me there is proof of the bioavailability of it through the skin or under the tongue................

seriously...fuck off if you have no input.......great inject..blah blah blah....but unless u have first hand exp.....with trans...or oral..dont fuckin comment....dont tell me what u hear...or what happend to a friend of yours....i want first hand experience......just cause people dont want to be a pin cusion doesnt mean it dont work....

Obviously the fucking farmers arent sitting there and giving theire cow shots ed...or eod...so wtf
the implant gun how far do u think it goes under the skin....1/4 inch at max...?

real input man.....any newbies fuck off....and im not saying "newbies" with low post status....
that dont mean shit....granted i have 108 posts or whatever....i mean people that dont know shit...............i know lifting...dieting like most people don't...trust me.............with AS...i know what research ive done for the past 3 yrs......so no more fucking gay replies.....if u dont know....FUCK OFF....

PEACE

H19

Ok that´s like the most stupid post i´ve read in Elitefitness, you sound so childish and, what´s with the "gay" comment? please, be aproppiate, and yes... coming from a newbie...
oh... you didn´t know the number of posts doesn´t mean anything at all, concerning hmmm... experience? it means... the number of messages posted... so... hmmm...

PEACE

Gerardo *

 

[hamper19]

Ok that´s like the most stupid post i´ve read in Elitefitness, you sound so childish and, what´s with the "gay" comment? please, be aproppiate, and yes... coming from a newbie...
oh... you didn´t know the number of posts doesn´t mean anything at all, concerning hmmm... experience? it means... the number of messages posted... so... hmmm...

PEACE

Gerardo *

No shit man.....I thought it meant the number of 2 by 4's in your house......dan you are smart