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Female interested in primobolan plus t blockers

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I am a young female interested in starting a cycle of primo but have done extensive research on effects on women, I have found it is one of the safest steroids for women due to the fact that it's got a low androgenic level. Although I am middle eastern ad have quiet a bit of strong genes and am more hairy than your average female. My concern is that even though its one f the "safest" I'm still worried I will get an increase of facial hair and body hair not too worried about acne though. I've done research on winestrol, and actually have some but haven't started them yet. But winis are a big stronger than primo and can do major harm to a women's fertility. I won't be on a cycle for too long I'm thinking about doing one cycle depending on what I decide to run and then determin how many months and dosage and everything. I'm not interested in doing anavar for personal reasons. Here are my stats. About 17% body fat, lean 5'1" petite and lean. I originally started out at 109 and with help from supplements and diet change such as whey jack3d and bcaa. I am now 114. I need to lose body fat and cut and chicle my body, I wanna visible muscle gain. So overall I was wondering if primo is the eat choice and if I do run a cycle of it, should I use test blockers to avoid increase in make features? I will also be throwing in a liver protectant maybe milk thistle to be on the safe side. Thanks guys! Btw...this will be my first cycle of steroids, I did take or shot of deca as a (guine pig) but that's irrelevant. My bf is also body building and is on a cylce of test and tren, he just finished d-Bol. And is putting in a new order soon. Thanks guys! -FJ
 
I would argue against primo as a female beginner drug

strongly in fact
 
Primo is actually not one of the safest AAS for women due to its ester. Its a very long ester and if you get sides they're going to get worse before they go away.
And I'm confused about the test blocker you mentioned... You WANT your test raised on a cycle to build more muscle (someone correct me if I'm wrong).
I know you said no anavar but it is probably the safest beginner steroid.
If you're dead set on an injectable maybe do some research on NPP.
 
No your right, but I don't want all the side effects that come along with it. I know normally you can't pick and chose what you want and don't want, but I figured maybe there's a way to slow the process or avoid it. The only reason in saying no to anavar is it's pricey which is understandable and ill spend the money if I'm sure ill like the results but also I don't like taking pills. So does anavar come in injectables?
 
honestly the sides on var for most women are very negligible and the dose is so small theres virtually no risk of dangerous liver problems but BP does need to be watched on it

for me and I will agree 100% everyone is different the only sides for me are more oily skin, which is a side I really hate with four helpings of nothing but win really
 
the best person to ask about primo round these parts is super qt but you'd probably have to pm her directly
she doesn't post too much these days
 
I'm on week 3 of NPP and LOVE it so far. No side affects except a little oily skin and SLIGHT bloat. Very slight.
With AAS, it's not a matter of IF you get side affects its when, and to what degree. There's always something. And if a side affect pops up that you can't live you'll be so thankful you chose a short ester
I'd go with a short ester no matter what you decide and start off very low on dosage.
 
the best person to ask about primo round these parts is super qt but you'd probably have to pm her directly
she doesn't post too much these days

And she'll tell ya hell no on primo!! Lol
 
I'm on week 3 of NPP and LOVE it so far. No side affects except a little oily skin and SLIGHT bloat. Very slight.
With AAS, it's not a matter of IF you get side affects its when, and to what degree. There's always something. And if a side affect pops up that you can't live you'll be so thankful you chose a short ester
I'd go with a short ester no matter what you decide and start off very low on dosage.

I totally agree... Good post!

I'd suggest var too as a first cycle and taking a t blocker would totally defeat the purpose of taking aas. You just have to start low to monitor sides.
 
Ok so...

If you research roids most used by women, low dose primo depot is in fact listed right along with var.

SuperQT is my girl but I've taken primo SEVERAL times, it's one of the drugs I'm actually the most well-versed on...and from both personal experience and research I see absolutely nothing wrong with a female using it...low dose of course. As a matter of fact, primo/var is a VERY popular stack even for pros.

Just saying. Not saying it's right for this girl's goals, but I had to clear the air, could not sit back and watch primo being given a bad rep like that.
 
Women and Steroids. . . Primobolin Depot!
Written by Leigh Penman
Wednesday, 12 August 2009 14:13

PRIMOBOLAN DEPOT (Methenolone enanthate)

Primobolan Depot is the injectable version of the steroid methenolone and, although it produces a weaker effect than Deca-Durabolin, it's a very good muscle-building steroid that possesses predominantly anabolic attributes. The fact that an enanthate ester is added to this steroid enables a slow and gradual release from the injection site. This allows for a longer half-life of approx 14 days (similar to other enanthate esters); yet most athletes prefer to administer it on a weekly basis.

Primobolan's popularity seems to stem from the fact that it's the only steroid that works well on a low calorie diet (making it a pre-contest drug of choice) and side effects are rarely a problem since it's relatively non toxic, it's low in androgens, and it doesn't convert to estrogen (aromatize); therefore, estrogenic side effects are not an issue. Additionally, Primo seems to have a positive effect on the immune system (explaining its use in AIDS patients). When you consider all these facts it's hard to believe that Primobolan Depot is not legally approved by the FDA in the United States...but that's politics for you!

Having said all of the above, it should be noted that Primobolan does have some side effects including light acne, deepening voice and increased hair growth. These sides seem to result from the small androgenic component coupled with a very long half life in the system. Remember, the greater the exposure to a compound, the more likely you are to experience side effects. However, it displays low liver toxicity and usually has little effect on blood pressure and cholesterol, which makes it one of the safest injectable anabolic steroids available. It's also worth pointing out that, in men, the body's endogenous testosterone production is only negatively affected when high dosages are taken for prolonged periods of time.

Female athletes can get good results from 50 -100mg a week and, if desired, it can be stacked with 25mg of Winstrol Depot every other day (although virilization problems may occur in sensitive individuals). A safer option would probably be stacking Primo with 10mg Anavar (or Winstrol oral, 10mg) per day, which represents a cautious dose for those seeking to experiment with anabolics.

All in all, when you consider the fact that Primobolan is effective on a low calorie diet, builds lean mass, adds hardness and tone AND positively effects the immune system, it's easy to see why it is one of the most popular steroids on the market and has gained something of a ‘cult' following over the years.

PRIMOBOLAN...THE WOMEN SPEAK OUT

After asking the Rx Muscle forum women their thoughts on Primobolan, the general consensus is that it's a good drug in terms of quality gains. In terms of side-effects, they can vary from individual to individual with the most common being oily skin, frequent break-outs, loss of hair and lowering of the voice. Hair loss seems to be the major issue with this drug which can be alleviated to some degree with the use of Nizoral shampoo- which prevents DHT build up on the scalp.

Favored dosages range from 50mg/week to 100mg/week with one user reporting great results with 200mg/week for a 7-8 week period (having started at 100mg/week).

Going back to the issue of side effects. it's worth pointing out that Primo is a highly counterfeited drug and care must be taken to ensure that you really are using Primo. It has been reported that some unscrupulous companies substitute Testosterone Propionate for Primobolan in their products. So buyers beware!

PRIMOBOLAN...THE SISTER STEEL EVALUATION

"Methenolone is a DHT based steroid with mild anabolic and androgenic properties prescribed mostly to women and children in its oral form. It does not form estrogens when it interacts with the aromatize enzyme, which makes it a great choice for women looking to minimize excess estrogen production. Primo is generally the first choice for any female athlete new to injectable drugs; however my personal experiences with Primo were far from favorable.

"I'm sensitive to precursors of dihydrotestosterone (DHT) in general, and Primo usually makes my hair fall out in strands at dosages as low as 50mg/week. That being said, I did not experience any other residual androgenic effects typical of Primo usage...such as oily skin, acne, increased facial/body hair growth etc. Generally speaking though, Primo is considered safe for most women, with problems usually being dose related.

"Gains on Primo are generally solid and gradual with the drug being an excellent choice while on a cutting diet. Most women I have worked with respond well to a dosage of 50-100mg per week for a period of 14-16 weeks with little or no adverse effects."

So there you have it, the lowdown on Primobolan which, along with Anavar, is definitely the most popular drug used by female bodybuilders. Watch this space for our profile on Winstrol- a steroid often used by women as part of a stack or as a substitute for Anavar which can often be highly priced.

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You're welcome.
 
thanks you guys-- i did some reasearch on NPP and so far, what ive read, i really like! i really like all the feedback ive been reading from people who are or have run it. and its a plus that its got a short ester. so, from you guys responses, PRIMO isnt a bad steroid, just probably not the right one for me to get started on. i couldnt find QT on here, but thats alright, hopefully CML can answer some of my questions about NPP. thanks guys!! :D
 
Lord..

I've run primo, NPP, and everything else lol NPP and primo are two very diff drugs and will produce very diff results, but go right ahead lol

They just suggested NPP because it has a short ester, which is true, but don't jab yourself with a random drug. That's stupid.
 
Great posts Psizzle!

I think it really shows that there are options and research and personal experience is important. I just wrote about QT because I know she doesn't like primo but I know you've seen great success with it!! and I know other women who have, as well. At the end of the day, it comes down to starting low, monitoring sides and being prepared to stop if things come up that you can't tolerate.
 
thanks you guys-- i did some reasearch on NPP and so far, what ive read, i really like! i really like all the feedback ive been reading from people who are or have run it. and its a plus that its got a short ester. so, from you guys responses, PRIMO isnt a bad steroid, just probably not the right one for me to get started on. i couldnt find QT on here, but thats alright, hopefully CML can answer some of my questions about NPP. thanks guys!! :D

I have had many discussions with QT and she doesn't like primo because of the hair loss effect is has for her. I can say that confidently on her behalf and she's posted that several times. I've had a similar experience with primo. Other women, like Psizz, have had good experiences with primo. It's like any drug...we can all react differently.

Psizzle posted some good information and if you dose low and monitor, you should be ok.
 
Great posts Psizzle!

I think it really shows that there are options and research and personal experience is important. I just wrote about QT because I know she doesn't like primo but I know you've seen great success with it!! and I know other women who have, as well. At the end of the day, it comes down to starting low, monitoring sides and being prepared to stop if things come up that you can't tolerate.
Wonder why she doesn't like it? It's one of my favorite injectable compounds hands down
 
I jist wanted to add that I wasn't bashing primo at all. I've heard of many women loving it. For me I'm just afraid of the long ester and the hair shedding. Im a stylist and need to hold onto my hair lol. A balding hairdresser isn't a good look.
How long did you run NPP Psizzle? What was your experience with it?
 
I ran NPP with primo actually...I ran the NPP for 8 weeks at 50mg EOD

I use n2shampoo now and it haults the hair loss. Wish I'd have known back then cause I did suffer lots of hair loss, my hairline went back a little. No one noticed but me, but you know how it is. Now it's all grown back though, and implementing the n2shampoo helps a ton

On the NPP run is when I got my biggest...I was training for bodybuilding. Hated how huge I got (all lean muscle, I was a monster lol) so I stopped after that cycle. It IS short ester deca after all, and we all know the boys (and some girls, eek) love their deca for growth. NPP does the same, just without the added water retention you get from deca due to the short ester.

All depends on your goals girl.
 
I ran NPP with primo actually...I ran the NPP for 8 weeks at 50mg EOD

I use n2shampoo now and it haults the hair loss. Wish I'd have known back then cause I did suffer lots of hair loss, my hairline went back a little. No one noticed but me, but you know how it is. Now it's all grown back though, and implementing the n2shampoo helps a ton

On the NPP run is when I got my biggest...I was training for bodybuilding. Hated how huge I got (all lean muscle, I was a monster lol) so I stopped after that cycle. It IS short ester deca after all, and we all know the boys (and some girls, eek) love their deca for growth. NPP does the same, just without the added water retention you get from deca due to the short ester.

All depends on your goals girl.

Wow 50mgs EOD!!!! I'm doing 20 e3d right now loving what it's doing for me, but I think next shot I'm going to up it a little, sit there for a week and then go up from there if sides are still minimal. I'm trying to put on some mass (I'm only 134lbs now at 5'6" low 20's BF, can see top 2 abs) in the next 6-8 weeks and then go straight into serious cutting (mostly drug free, maybe a little GW, I hate stimulant fat burners).
I use either Nioxin or Redkens IntraForce.... Def interested in N2Shampoo though. I'll check it out
Sorry for hijacking thread OP!
 
Can't get much more serious than AAS lol but I get what you're saying. I'm the resident female sarms chick so when you're ready for that, don't hesitate with questions.

And yes, I did 50...keep in mind I'm not only 5'10" but I'm just one of those that can handle higher dosages. I never recommend other women do doses I do. I didn't just start out with my dosages either, spent years building up to find my sweet spots for everything
 
Can't get much more serious than AAS lol but I get what you're saying. I'm the resident female sarms chick so when you're ready for that, don't hesitate with questions.

And yes, I did 50...keep in mind I'm not only 5'10" but I'm just one of those that can handle higher dosages. I never recommend other women do doses I do. I didn't just start out with my dosages either, spent years building up to find my sweet spots for everything

Lol ya AAS is the king of serious.
I meant when I cut I'm gonna get super strict with my diet (it's already where it should be but I've incorporated a cheat here and there on this cycle) and shred down to about 15%. I'd love to compete by next year.
I'll def be sending you a PM when I'm ready for shredding! I can't wait to see your before and afters from your cut now.
 
Thanks girl. And yes I'd love to help you.

I have a few pics posted here and there in the thread, but not my before pics...I'll def post pics in 30 days when I'm done with this portion of my prep....when these 30 days are up I'm starting a new phase to fully prepare for my show in July....so those pics will technically be my before pics. :)
 
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