Facts About Export Serono Kits!

[XXXL]

i'm getting emailed a lot of questions about these babys and there is a ton of misinformation. i'd like to set the record straight.

1. export kits are NOT made by serono.
2. export kits are NOT made by dupont for serono
3. export kits are NOT manufatured in any way, shape, or form for serono by other companies.

what export kits are is really unknown. they MIGHT be real gh. they MIGHT be hcg. they MIGHT be any number of things. and how clean and safe is this stuff to inject? you just don't know. what you do know is that they are in no way affiliated with serono!

now some ppl will tell you that it's gh just relabled under the serono name and that it is actually contains higher gh levels than serono. so ask yourself this, if you have a superior product to serono, why wouldn't you just sell it as is? you wouldn't need to use the serono name.

and all of these fake lab reports going around to prove they are better than serono. do i really even need to get into all of that? ? ?

STAY AWAY FROM LOT # S810-1A1 EXP 11/2003

no more emails on the subject please! just bump this up for all to see or make it a sticky.

 

[IronFist]

That's fucking wonderful, I just got 5 of the damn things a couple days ago...

 

[XXXL]

i feel for you bro. i let my bud's talk me into picking a bunch up for them. then i had to buy them all back and i'm out a shit load of money.

i've given my source till the end of the week to make good. i'm being more than fair and will split the loses since i believe my source was lied to also. but that's as far as i'm willing to go.

and my sources source won't give the okay to let me have the addy to speak with him directly. although i'm about 99% sure who it is. everybody that emails me pretty much has a small circle that the kits come from.

they keep telling me they are big players that will ruin my name. like i care? ? ? i'm up here just to read and learn. what name to i have to ruin? ? ? ?

whatever.

 

[gearedup50]

Bro they are real GH and they are counterfit serono kits not made by serono, but they are real GH you will still get good results from them! they could be made by someone at serono for extra cash or just by a counterfiter but just because they aren;t serono doesn't mean you aren't getting real GH!

I have used tons of thse kits and they are good, I have been on 4 months of Holo GH from the oharmacy and they work pretty much the same!

Are the made by serono? NO

Are they real GH? Yes, unless you got an actual fake

Are they HCG? NO, if you cant tell the difference between injecting HCG vs. HGH then you shouldn't be using

 

[2EZ2BRICH]

i'm ordering 2 kits tonight. this post has me concerned. anymore comments...thanks !


2ez

 

[XXXL]

you are wrong more than you think my friend. you've taken the time to post a bunch of links that really tell us nothing. lets just cut to the chase shall we?

according to meg lohman at the serono labs these are all fake. they have been produced no where in the world by serono or any agents there of.

call 1-800-283-8088 and ask for the medical information department. then ask for ms lohman. i'm sure she can dispell any questions you may still have about the issue.

 

[jc21]

i think i will stick with the good old holograms myself.

 

[XXXL]

i hear ya, i learned a hard lesson these past couple of weeks.

 

[XXXL]

one last thing. i'm not here to debate this issue with anyone. everybody who sells them is not only going to say they are legit, they will say they are better than the real thing.

all kits have lot numbers and exp dates. call the number, give them your lot numbers, let them know they are non-hologram kits, and see what they say. they might have good news and they might not. just depends on the lot numbers. also, ask your source where the kit is from.

granted a source that sells fake and relabled gh passed off as serono gh would never lie to you. but why not just make the phone call yourself and know for sure from the only ppl that would truely know.? ? ?

 

[Miracle Man]

NO HOLOGRAM DON'T BUY IT. EXPORT HGH IS BULLSHIT. That was a "BS" story to push and sell fake Hgh. Why do you think Serono placed a hologram on the box and the "PI"? think of that!!!! and make your decision from there.

 

[rookie69]

for supposedly having no angle for your attacks at export kits you sure are going out of your way to do so.........

if you are ignorant enough to think they are bunk, as in no active ingredient, then you are simply stupid........if you bought all these kits, then didn't even TRY them, then you are even dumber.......

as for making false claims about about no active ingredient you are most likely pissing off guys on top, because you have no basis for this comment unless you can produce lab tests showing this..........as for Serono's statements, you can't believe a word they say.....

for the last FUCKING TIME, exports are NOT suppose to be here in the US..........they already covered their ass on this once, posted MNH kits were bunk, then proceeded to remove their link on their homepage less than 3 weeks later for some unknown reason, how about you call and ask them why???

BOTTOM LINE IS TRY THE SHIT!!!!!!!! if you think it's bunk, then don't purchase it

 

[XXXL]

so rookie, you're telling me that serono is wrong? come on now how do you think that makes you sound?

if i told you the car i sold you is a Ford Corvette and you call Ford and they tell you they don't make Corvettes. then i tell you they do, who are you going to believe? me or ford?

now flip it to the serono company. they tell me they are fake and you tell me they are real. who do you expect us to believe?

 

[XXXL]

bump

 

[monkeyballs]

Called the #. Intresting.

 

[gearedup50]

Please stop saying that these kits are fake as they are not they are counterfit meaning they do contain real GH but were not made by the manufacvturer on the box!

They do contain real GH but are not made by serono and if they were made by serono they were made by someone there to make a few bucks!

Why should you not use one? Why not buy one as they are about 35-40% cheaper than the hologarmmed ones!

Even if you were to buy the 18iu vials from china which work well it would cost about the same as these kits!

I personally use holo kits but to say these are bunk is not right!

 

[lifeline]

this is a great topic to really find out whats going on. This is tons of money that we are playing around with.

 

[Lumberg]

so rookie, you're telling me that serono is wrong? come on now how do you think that makes you sound?

if i told you the car i sold you is a Ford Corvette and you call Ford and they tell you they don't make Corvettes. then i tell you they do, who are you going to believe? me or ford?

now flip it to the serono company. they tell me they are fake and you tell me they are real. who do you expect us to believe?

I think the point is, you are still getting a stylish car that can corner like a corvette and run the 1/4 in 13 secs like a corvette.
Unless you're a collector you don't care what is actually is, if you get in it and the thing starts, it looks clean, and it gets you where you want to go.

JC

 

[XXXL]

johnboy what exactly are you trying to tell us? that serono makes kits all over the world? i think everybody agrees with that.

my big beef is that i was told that these kits WERE MANUFATURED BY SERONO. and they were not.

agian, whom ever you spoke with, post the reps name and extention that says the above listed lot number is any good.

i don't care if there is active test in countfeit test, i'm not injecting something into my body that isn't what i was told it was. PERIOD.

and of these ppl with have this great gh that needs to be relabled with serono? why do you think that is? ? ? ?

call it cheating, lieing, bullshiting, fraud, whatever you want. i was told these kits were manufatured by serono. they were not. they have nothing to do with serono in any way, shape, or form.

johnboy, i chanlenge you to prove me wrong by listing the phone number, name of the rep, and the ext he/she can be reached. i would LOOOOVVVVEEEE to be wrong. however, unfortunaly, i am not. i wouldn't make this big of deal out of it if i wasn't sure. back up your statements with exact info as i have. PLEASE!

if i don't have my money back here pretty soon, i've had some mod's okay's to post some names. and dont think i won't. i will go to all of the big boards and do so. i've even noticed that on some of the shady boards my accounts have beed deleted. however, i'll reregister with another computer and get the word out.

these mother fuckers are making soooo much money misleading ppl. i don't think it is too much to ask to get my money back without having to do all of this bullshit.

i am right, they are wrong. a simple refund and i'll go away!

 

[jk5611]

not sure if this link will work but interesting story from today's Boston Globe newspaper on Serono Serostim.....



http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/129/business/Serono_subpoenaed_in_review_of_AIDS_drug_sales+.shtml

 

[XXXL]

but if you sepcificly tell them you want a vette any they tell you it's a vet, wouldn't you want your money back when you found out it was not?

i'm going to go ahead and get these tested by someone i trust. and let me tell you one thing. if this shit comes back fake, underdosed, or anything else, i'm going to go nuts!

i'll never inject this shit into my body no matter how the results come back. but i will at least know the honesty of the relables.

maybe we shouldn't lump them all together. counterfiet should be called realbled gh, or serono want-a-be's?

 

[Lumberg]

Interesting snippet for those who don't read the whole article:

Serono has encountered a number of controversies over Serostim in recent years.

The FDA granted the drug accelerated approval only after the company gained crucial support from AIDS activists by agreeing to cap the price. More recently, counterfeiters have targeted the drug, which has a high street value because it builds muscle and is favored by body-builders.

Last Wednesday, the New York attorney general charged a former employee of Montefiore Medical Center in the Bronx with faxing hundreds of forged Serostim prescriptions to out-of-state pharmacies. Once he received the drugs, he sold them on the black market for $3,000 to $3,200 for a month's supply, investigators said.

 

[jk5611]

if you read between the lines its not hard to figure out why the domestic hologram kits have become MUCH harder to come by recently.

 

[XXXL]

bump

 

[powerhouse7]

bump for more info, any others use this gh with these lot #'s with good results? A similar question is posted at triedia so hopefully we will find out more info.

 

[monkeyballs]

Johnboy and XXX
Yeah, Yeah, you guys hate one another...etc....

But this is actually a really good debate, and both of you have made some pretty good points. I think that this debate really needs to continue, as plenty of bros would like to know if they can save 30% on their GH cycles that are probably already more than a months rent.

So can we quit the bitchin and actually get to the bottom of this?

 

[XXXL]

johnyboy, weren't you the one telling me to take a valum? ? ? i think you need to follow you're own advice you poor dumb bastard.

you say you called? well post the info you lieing fuck! what no info to post? ? ?. . . boy you showed me. . . good point my man.

i could care less what you spend your money on dumb ass. it's your cash and you can do whatever it is you like.

now let me spell this out to you in a manner a 2 year old will understand. then maybe you'll get it.

serono like all other large corp's have labs all over the world. do you understand that? they also sell their products all over the world.

BUT THEY DO NOT SELL THE LOT NUMBER I'VE LISTED.

i wish i had a crayon to write this out for you so you would understand. what color would you like? ? ? ?

as for your ttokkyo remark, did i ever say all serono's are fake?

you obviously have a motive for spreading this misinformation.

PROVE ME WRONG BIG MAN. . . tell me with whom you've spoken at serono and their extention so i can follow up on what you claim is true. but you won't and we all wonder why that is. . . not because you are full of shit and have absolutly no idea what-so-ever you are talking about.

now jonnyboy, you've said what you have to say and you really showed me up. please go away now. you've made your point.

why must ppl take such offense when you point out a bit of misinformation? ? ? ? ?

johnboy is either very misinformed, never called serono, or is selling this bunk as shit. i hope it's the first.

let me say this. DON'T TAKE MY WORD OR JOHN'S. CALL SERONO YOURSELF. IT'S A FREE CALL.

 

[XXXL]

johnboy, i'm letting you pull me down to you're level. i'm not going to get into the name calling or whatever other personal attacks you care to throw my way. i don't know you and you don't know me.

it's your choice, your body, your money, and all up to you.

feel free to email me if you like. i hate posts that turn into flamming piss matches and now i find myself feeding into it, and it takes away from the subject at hand.

if you have something new or constructive to add to this debate, please do.

 

[Grainger]

well I am in the same boat....I bought the same damn lot number!!!

I am going to take a shot now...I have a bad reaction to HGH that causes my elbows to hurt like a MF. if I don't get any pain, I will know right away.....I will post in a day or two to let you know....

talk to ya soon.......

-G

 

[IronFist]

well I am in the same boat....I bought the same damn lot number!!!

I am going to take a shot now...I have a bad reaction to HGH that causes my elbows to hurt like a MF. if I don't get any pain, I will know right away.....I will post in a day or two to let you know....

talk to ya soon.......

-G

I'm with ya bro...All 5 of my fucking kits have that lot#....

 

[Lumberg]

well I am in the same boat....I bought the same damn lot number!!!

I am going to take a shot now...I have a bad reaction to HGH that causes my elbows to hurt like a MF. if I don't get any pain, I will know right away.....I will post in a day or two to let you know....

talk to ya soon.......

-G

You're a brave MF'er to be a guinea pig-- thanks, looking forward to the results.

JC

 

[Grainger]

so far so good

I took 4 IU's last night right after I finsihed typing that last post. I woke up this AM and my hands were numb which is a good sign...like they were asleep. No pain in the elbows though.

I am going to take another 4 later today...I will keep posting my results here. At point, I may be feeling the effects from my old growth (halogram box) or the new stuff might be growth and I am feeling that...a little too soon to tell.

The strange thing is....I only had numb hands when I first started the "halogram" GH. Perhaps this is a different kind of GH if you know that I mean.....Like I said...I won't draw any conclusions yet..just keep you posted.

Taking one for the team,
Grainger.

 

[gearedup50]

Take it bro the kits are good I have taken a bunch of them you have nothing to worry about!

Also let me say this once interesting thread took a turn for the shitter!

 

[IronFist]

Take it bro the kits are good I have taken a bunch of them you have nothing to worry about!

Also let me say this once interesting thread took a turn for the shitter!

LOL..No shit, huh?

 

[Grainger]

Yup it's real alright....my joint are fuckin' screamin.....and I have not even worked out since I did the shot.

This will be my last kit I think....I can't really take the pain much more. I was hoping that it was getting better but it doesn't seem too.

Well, at least my bad reaction to GH provided some benifit.

 

[supergirl]

counterfiet should be called realbled gh, or serono want-a-be's?

good idea.. maybe that will clarify it for people... hell as long as it is legit gh..

Also, considering certain circumstances, i really don't think it is the best idea to keep calling SERONO asking about supposed "exports".... it obviously brought undue attention and now we see that serono is being investigated for kits that have leaked out onto the black market.....

gee.. now kits will be even more impossible to get.. and when you guys are given other options such as "exports" all you can do is trash their validity and the people that got them for you..
You think it is easy??? if it were easy then you wouldn't need someone else to get them for you...

the lot number S810-1A1 it legit gh... You guys are fine

 

[monkeyballs]

good idea.. maybe that will clarify it for people... hell as long as it is legit gh..

Also, considering certain circumstances, i really don't think it is the best idea to keep calling SERONO asking about supposed "exports".... it obviously brought undue attention and now we see that serono is being investigated for kits that have leaked out onto the black market.....

gee.. now kits will be even more impossible to get.. and when you guys are given other options such as "exports" all you can do is trash their validity and the people that got them for you..
You think it is easy??? if it were easy then you wouldn't need someone else to get them for you...

the lot number S810-1A1 it legit gh... You guys are fine

There it is fellas...
I think the record has been set straigt.
I'm satisfied.

As for the calling...good point. It should stop.

Although if you call and only give a lot # and no other info, and just ask for the lot validation and nothing else...I really don't think that would raise suspicion. The # is there so people can confirm that their scripted products are legit.

 

[powerhouse7]

well that sets my mind at ease a little bit.

 

[IronFist]

good idea.. maybe that will clarify it for people... hell as long as it is legit gh..

Also, considering certain circumstances, i really don't think it is the best idea to keep calling SERONO asking about supposed "exports".... it obviously brought undue attention and now we see that serono is being investigated for kits that have leaked out onto the black market.....

gee.. now kits will be even more impossible to get.. and when you guys are given other options such as "exports" all you can do is trash their validity and the people that got them for you..
You think it is easy??? if it were easy then you wouldn't need someone else to get them for you...

the lot number S810-1A1 it legit gh... You guys are fine

Bitchin, I'm startin my GH tomorrow...

 

[ironmaster]

1. Calling the company is a bad idea that could impact future availability.
2. The exports appear to be real GH.......the rather large price difference should make it obvious, though, that it is not the same as the hologram kit. (I think we can trust SG on this, as well)
3. The past problems of Serono, combined with the current Medicaid/Ins. crackdown on kits makes it plain to me that the future looks gloomy for reasonably priced hologram kits.

So...I'm already on a totally different path for hGH, and will post when I'm completely satisfied.

 

[Sexual Mustard]

and to the ones who insist on bringing this up to Serono labs directly:

not only is this a stupid idea, but do you really think that Serono will admit to the exports being NOT fake? Think about it, if they said "Yeah, those kits DO contain real GH, but we didn't make it--they're counterfeit" then that could potentially screw up their business and profits if people who had been paying thousands of dollars for kits can get them for hundreds in the black market!

 

[IRON MAN 1776]

Looks like I'm good to go. I got the same #.

THANKS BRO FOR BEING THE SO CALLED GUNIEA PIG.

IRON

 

[chubs]

So how you doing Super? glad to see you are still around!

thank you SG, Sexual Mustard, johnboy, grainger, and the rest of you who are defending the legitimacy of these kits. unfortunately i think as long as these kits are in existence they are going to be cause for concern from alot of novice gh users. i believe alot of the experienced users really have no problems with these kits as witnessed by their continued purchasing of them on a consistent basis.

that's all i got, i don't chime in at all here at elite but felt the need to show my handle. take care.

warmest regards,

chubs



I AM NOT A SOURCE! DO NOT EMAIL ME FOR ANYTHING RELATED TO THE SALE OF ANYTHING DISCUSSED IN THIS THREAD!!!

 

[XXXL]

well then it would appear that we are all in agreement. export kits are NOT manufatured by serono as my source told me.

as for calling them. everybody that kept saying that they called serono and serono told them they were legit serono kits was lying. so i had to post the number to call them out. they never caled. had the sources not lied about it, the number would have never needed to be posted.

as always, my big beef is with being lied to. i was told they were seono kits and they are not. now that i've done some research and can prove they are not serono kits, the sources are now at least admitting that much.

it's sad that it comes to this. but that'st the game and the kind of ppl we deal with.

so we all agree that serono has absolutely nothing to do with these kits in any way, shape, or form. if you guys want to continue to spend money on them, inject whatever is in those vials, clean or dirt, that is your choice.

i just needed to make sure nobody else is lied to in the manner i was. knowlege is power and everybody knows a bit more.

now i just have the issue of the emails where my source lied to me saying that they were manufatured by serono and and refund i'm going to need. then i'll be able to sleep sound. my work here will be complete.

i'm sticking with my hologram kits from now on. i just got a few more in and love em'. i'm hooked!

PS! i will be testing these bad boys. actually i have the ball rolling on it already. if these come up fake or underdosed, i'm going to make that known too. and unlike all these phoney lab reports where the same lab results are atesting to 10 different lot numbers, i'll make my results VERY VERY easy to follow up on.

remember, you get what you pay for.

 

[Korat]

The closest comparsion I can come with is the Steris Cypionate thats still floating out there. It looks like steris packaged like it, but is it NO. Most likely just Brovel T-200. As far as this export Gh someone has access to the boxes and vials of Serostim brand GH and is repackaging it, with I truly hope is Chinese GH. If thats the case its a legit counterfeit. Obviously its not going to be in the wafer presentation that serostim is it is going to be just powder form. Good Luck.

 

[rookie69]

XXXL

shut up and fade away............you started off with no idea what you were talking about and it looks as though you have finished in that same manner, people like you are what ruin good things because of stupidity............

because of large amounds of people calling serono chances are that these kits will possibly "dissapear" BECAUSE OF YOUR IGNORANCE.........

for the past 2 years Serono has been in the spotlight of the FDA for possible backdoor sales..........if you remember (which you probably don't because you sound like a newbie) serono ALSO made a public statement to EVERYBODY and the FDA that the MNH605A lot number was NOT A REAL LOT NUMBER, just like they are saying now about this lot number your dumbass keeps calling about, but guess what, they removed that claim from their webpage 6-8 weeks after they posted it.......their exact stament was that the kits WERE NOT manufactured by Serono and that the lot number didn't exist............well, if that's fucking true then why was that statement removed by the FDA? and why isn't this new lot number which they are saying is NOT REAL and DOESN'T EXIST have info about it on serono's page and the FDA page? if it was counterfit as they are saying, they are required by LAW to immediately contact the FDA, then bulletins would be sent to all distributors and pharmacies.........

but guess what bud? pharmacuetical companies aren't always 100% honest!! and you know what, neither are car dealerships dumbass (which you use as a comparison).........

think what ever the fuck you want...........but the post that the guy made with the link bo the Boston newspaper says it all if you REALLY read into it..........

coverups and politics is what it's all about here in america buddy.......i could say more, but you are DEFINITELY not worth the time...........

anyway, hopefully you didn't fuck too much shit up, it looks as though serono did that themselves though..........i wouldn't doubt if the export market begins to dry up soon after reading the newspaper link, just as the domestics already have.........

 

[rookie69]

and as for lab testing, it appears as though you have a some sort of alterior motive for your continued bitching.........

if you REALLY had access to lab tests (which 99.9% of us don't) then you would have bought just one kit and had it tested before buying a bunch of them...........you obviously have no idea how expensive it is to test GH, it's not as simple HPLC test but a combination of reversed-phase high performance liquid chromatography, size exclusion chromatography and ion chromatography...........it's VERY expensive, i know............

there are few ways to get testing done, one is to have it sent in by a doctor and have a VERY VERY high fee paid and also a reason the product needs to be tested........and the second one is to get caught with the shit by the authorities, in which case THEY test it for you............

you sound pretty stupid, so why don't you go up to your local cop shop and say you want it tested, i'm sure they will do it for you!!

 

[XXXL]

rookie, you should thank me. you are exactly the kind of ppl i'm trying to educate. the IGNORANT!

what did i say in my very first post? shall i get another crayon and draw pic's for you so you can understand it? ? ? let me try to spell it out for you one more time. READ THIS AGAIN S-L-O-W-L-Y!

serono does not make the lot numbers i have listed. can you comprehend that or shall i give you a minute?

i've never made mention of the mnh lot number to which you keep refering. so i have no comment on those.

my motivation should be very obvious by now. I WAS LIED TO ABOUT THESE KITS! i was told to call serono to verify and when i did everybody changed their tune and said i shouldn't. MAKE UP YOUR MINDS! i only called once anyway, that's all i had to do. the only other person that i know for sure that has taken the time to call was supergirl. she asked me for the info too.

as for the testing, i said i'm working on it. super girl has even been kind enough to offer her assistance in resolving this matter in paying for the test. like a true superhero, she said she'd pay for the test all i need to do is make the arringments of my choice.

one last thing. funny how all the ppl chime in saying they called serono and proved they were legit and that i should do the same. then when i do call them, i'm told by the same ppl that i shouldn't be calling them. hmm, why could that be? ? ?

prbly the same reason i've been told to have these kits tested and when i do have it set up i'll be told not to. hmm?

if i'm so wrong all it will take is one concrete verifiable thing to prove me wrong. and then what would i be able to say? yet nobody wants to furnish me with this info.

as for the testing, there is a very small chance that i'll be able to have it done for free. a good friend of my family is a very high up at the univeristy of michigan research department. heads the MSRB'S I, II, and III. he said he could prbly have it "slip through the crack" as he put it. but i feel if i have him run the test, everybody will say it's bias or i asked him to furnish false info. so i'm exploring all avenues.

sounds like there isn't a single person on this board that objects to the idea of testing this product to prove it's legit. so lets just work on that for now.

i've spoken with supergirl on this subject extensivly. she's going to help me get it tested. i'll set it up and she'll flip the tab. once i have the results, i'll post them.

right or wrong, i have nothing to lose. well if i'm wrong i will have lots to gain. it will mean my kits are legit. and that would make me happy.

sit tight, i'll see about getting these tests set up. hell, it won't cost me anything, so why not? ? ? ? ? then all minds will be at ease. . . . .

 

[supergirl]

my motivation should be very obvious by now. I WAS LIED TO ABOUT THESE KITS! i was told to call serono to verify and when i did everybody changed their tune and said i shouldn't. MAKE UP YOUR MINDS! i only called once anyway, that's all i had to do. the only other person that i know for sure that has taken the time to call was supergirl. she asked me for the info too.

you are not the only person who was lied to XXXL... so stop your bitching.. several of us were in the same boat.. and only after lots of digging, calls and even flying to another state to get the real story... i finally got to the truth of the matter...
so I know for a fact that you were not deliberatly lied to but rather i am sure you were told the same shit as the rest of us...
so please stop harping and singing the "i was lied to" tune because it is getting old... You think i am not pissed off at the deception myself...

HOWEVER the one thing that eases my mind is the fact that the kits DO CONTAIN LEGIT GH... domestic GH.. the SAME that serono uses in their kits.... so please, give it a rest...

AS per the testing.. yes i said i will help because it will finally shut you up!!! LOL.. you bitch more than me when i have pms and haven't eaten in 4 hours j/k
so, go get the tests done if you feel that the above info is not sufficient for you nor is my word, which knowing you, i am sure it won't be...


To the rest of the "export" kit users... ENJOY your kits, because they are LEGIT GH!!!!!!! whooooo hooooooo... hell grainger's joints are screaming LOL

 

[rookie69]

this is my last post for you on this subject XXXL

you keep saying that this lot DOESN'T EXIST........

as i ALREADY POSTED, Serono said the same thing about an MNH605A lot number that was an export kit, over a year ago......the FDA cracked down on sales and Serono's response was that the lot didn't exist, the kits were showing up in legit US channels and the FDA caught wind and needed to know why export kits were in US pharmacies......they put this on their website even, then 6 some weeks later the FDA had it removed because the discovered this was a mistake........

SO, don't believe every word Serono says, they have their ass's in the grinder and are trying to cover their ass's (again)

it's common knowledge they already lied about it once (do a search on their page, this info doesn't exist) and it looks as though they are doing the same thing with this lot number

also, if the kits were counterfit why the FUCK would the people doing it pick a fake number? all they have to do is get a damn kit and copy the fucking number........

as i've already said, it's IGNORANT people like you who screw good things up for people........

BOTTOM LINE WAS YOU WERE NOT LIED TO AND YOU ARE TAKING GOOD GH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

believe what you want, i'm done responding to your posts, i just wanted to help set the truth straight and i hate to see stupid people like you screw good things up because of their own lack of knowledge........

don't believe everything you hear, everybody has their own agenda, even LEGITIMATE pharmacuetical companies..........

 

[XXXL]

rookie, if you ever find yourself in a postion to back up anything you've said, please post agian.

as for your comments about how smart these guys are that relable the gh (if it really is gh) they are the same dumbasses that have been telling me to call serono and verify. only AFTER i called and followed up did they change their tune.

rookie, i'll miss our little chats but all good things must come to an end.

as for you miss super, i know it's getting old for you because i'm out the money and you are not. and now i noticed the word "help" has appeard in the offer that wasn't there in the email. begining to have doubts? ? ? as for the much digging to find out the truth, i was the one who tipped you off these weren't what you thought they were/said they where. gheezz you kept telling me they were the real deal until i sent you those numbers to check up on them.

however, i'll get in touch with you about the testing. i can have you send the payment to the lab directly if you wish once the test has been arrianged. once again, it could be free it my guy can get it set.

one question, will there be any objections to a person i know doing the test? or will everybody cry foul? i mean he won't actually do the test himself, but someone that works for him will do it.

speak now and i'll make other arriangments.

 

[powerhouse7]

just as long as the test is done at a legit lab.

 

[wannaGrow2]

Has anyone that used these lot#s taken a pregnancy test a few
days into their cycle to check for hcg?

 

[djdjdjddjon]

Has anyone that used these lot#s taken a pregnancy test a few
days into their cycle to check for hcg?

good point...be a very easy solution...just put a drop on a pregnancy test thingy, positive then you got hcg. also a few other points of interest, if these aren't made by serono then its probably not hgh, from what i know hgh isn't easy to produce/synthesize, so i doubt some dood with an organic chemistry degree from a community college in asia is making hGH...

 

[ryker77]

so rookie, you're telling me that serono is wrong? come on now how do you think that makes you sound?

if i told you the car i sold you is a Ford Corvette and you call Ford and they tell you they don't make Corvettes. then i tell you they do, who are you going to believe? me or ford?

now flip it to the serono company. they tell me they are fake and you tell me they are real. who do you expect us to believe?

lol

 

[Hbone]

Dj not knocking you , but there are some large chemical pharma companies in Asia the anybody who has the money can buy from.

 

[Northstar]

I decided to play guinea pig a while back with the S810-1A1 kits. Just reading and assuming was'nt getting me anywhere so I did a full 18iu daily for a week (i had 13 kits). Nothing. No sides, aches in my joints, feeling hot at night, fingers bloating, etc... So i tossed them out with tears in my eye's and replaced them with Geno's and Holo's. At 6iu's daily all the sides are there and have been for a long time. That's my experience. Others may have had different ones.

 

[ryker77]

good point...be a very easy solution...just put a drop on a pregnancy test thingy, positive then you got hcg. also a few other points of interest, if these aren't made by serono then its probably not hgh, from what i know hgh isn't easy to produce/synthesize, so i doubt some dood with an organic chemistry degree from a community college in asia is making hGH...

Very Very interesting?

I have a question::::
Export kits are supposed to be made overseas and sold overseas, correct?
Then why doesn't someone contact one of the OVERSEA'S sources or board members and have them go to the local pharmacy? This would clear things UP!

 

[40butpumpin]

I had one of those kits...complete junk. Never again.