Eurycoma longifolia jack, aka Tongkat Ali. E???

[Nelson Montana]

Nelson, since you're on HRT, how do you expect E. Longifolia to ^ your T?

I don't believe anything can up T.

Only avenasativacoside, muara puama and urtica dioica can lower SHBG, therfore increasing free testosterone. That's the best you'll get from any natural ingredient.
And even on HRT, you can feel an increase in free T. Longfolia never gave it to me.

I also feel a libido boost from Maca and epimedium. Never got it from Longfolia.

 

[Singleton]

We still don't know the how E. Longifolia increases sexual desire. Does it ^ T?

Perhaps it increases the conversion of T to DHT. This would explain the sexual effect seen in the rats.

I don't really like the experiment. We need a controlled study that uses humans and T levels.

 

[Singleton]

Things that can ^ T (from my very limited knowledge) :
* Blocking aromatase
* stimulation of LH
* Environmental Factors (Winning a game, sexual stimulus, sunlight)

When T is converted to E, the hypothalamus stops releasing gonadotroping releasing hormone (GnRH). GnRH is responsible for stimulating the production of LH. LH is responsible for the production of T.

Blocking aromitase prevents T from being converted to E. Which means GnRH production can continue -> LH production can continue -> T production can continue -> ^ in T.


Now, back to this longjax stuff.

If E. longifolia blocks aromitase, you won't have a significant increase in T, Nelson, because you're on HRT. Same thing with 6-oxo, and I would assume anastrozole or letrozole would give you a similar result.

Who knows what E. longifolia does? I mean, besides increasing facials in rats. What does it really do?

I took today 600mg at 7:15 am. I'm going to take another 600 mg. now 10 am. I'll post again.


A bit off topic: anyone try cortex cinnamomi?

 

[twistedneck]

Excellent responses, Singleton, I want to hear your results.

 

[Singleton]

I took 2400mg today. 600 before AM WO, 1800 between then and a 3pm WO.

I was ultra tired, so I took a 1:1 of t-rex (thanks for the samples, anafit)/ ephedra, drank a cup of strong coffee, slapped on some lipoderm-Y, and took a few puffs off my inhaler.

Feelin good Gonna clean my house. Gonna use some of that P7 I bought to help me calm down & cut up at the same time.

My voice seemed deeper. Before all the stimulants kicked in, I felt tired yet focused. I caught myself whale watching a few times, and that's pretty unlike me. I usually scope out the skinny chicks, mostly asians. Great mental focus and recall today (even though I was tired).

What did the longjax do? I don't know. I'll try it again tomorrow.

 

[geoboy]

to get a good read on the longjack, stay away from the ephedra/caffiene/stimulants- they are vascoconstrictors and affect ridgidity of erections.

I took 2400mg today. 600 before AM WO, 1800 between then and a 3pm WO.

I was ultra tired, so I took a 1:1 of t-rex (thanks for the samples, anafit)/ ephedra, drank a cup of strong coffee, slapped on some lipoderm-Y, and took a few puffs off my inhaler.

Feelin good Gonna clean my house. Gonna use some of that P7 I bought to help me calm down & cut up at the same time.

My voice seemed deeper. Before all the stimulants kicked in, I felt tired yet focused. I caught myself whale watching a few times, and that's pretty unlike me. I usually scope out the skinny chicks, mostly asians. Great mental focus and recall today (even though I was tired).

What did the longjax do? I don't know. I'll try it again tomorrow.

 

[Singleton]

Took 2400mg again yesterday.

Got a great pump. Had some mounting behavior followed by/coupled with ejaculation.

To what degree the longjax contributed, I don't know.

took another 1200 mg today.

 

[geoboy]

Took 2400mg again yesterday.

Got a great pump. Had some mounting behavior followed by/coupled with ejaculation.

To what degree the longjax contributed, I don't know.

took another 1200 mg today.

where did you find a girl mouse? never mind- I'm mixing up the studies and the posts.