Estrogen Gyno or Progression Gyno ? How do you know????

[fitwizard]

I know that there are two types of Gynos:
The one from Estrogen caused by the majority of AS like dbol & sust and can be blocked by Armidix or Nolvadex

And the one from Deca (I can't remember the name of this gyno type) Maybe non-fibrus or progression gyno... Can be blocked by using Winny.

Anyway, say I am on DBOL/SUST/DECA cycle and I'm starting to notice early gyno signs, how do the hell do I know if they are coming from the DBOL or SUST, or rather from the DECA ? ? ? How do I know how to treat them?? Maybe Nolvadex? but maybe just winny?

 

[Diesil]

Its according to how much deca sust and dball you r taking. If it is high deca over 600mg you may need to add the winny, but under that around 400mg or less it is probaly coming from the androgens.

 

[ORANGE_JUICER]

what week in the cycle are you in? if its early say week 2 or 3 its highly unlikely its from the deca. it would be most likely from the d-bol. if your further along say week 5-6 its anyones guess as if its from the deca or sus. give us your dosages and we might be able to see which one its from.

 

[panerai]

Prolactine causes gyno, Finasteride causes gyno, unknown factors cause gyno...
In many cases the combination of ER and PR activation is responsable for gyno.

 

[fitwizard]

Thanks juicer, I do not have yet Gyno (I don't feel any pain but they seem to be puffy with no pain).

I just want to be ready if something nasty happens.

It's my first cycle:
Week 1-4 DBOL: 30mg ed
Week 1-10 SUST:500mg, DECA:300mg
Week 12-14 CLOMID

My stats are 140lbs, 13%bf, 5'9", small frame, 3yrs heavy training, bad genetics. period.

 

[Diesil]

I wouldn't worry about proestrogen then. You would only get gyno fron the androgens if you did develope some which you will probaly not if you are not gyno prone.

 

[artcarved]

Take the nolvadex now. 10-20 mg per day should solve he problem in a week. If not you are in trouble. Gyno comes quick. Once there it usually stays. I agree with who wrote about depending on the week. Just take the Nolvadex. Better safe than sorry.

 

[Diesil]

That also looks like a good cycle for you I am doing about the same only with a bit higher dosages. You should get some great results.

 

[TxRugby_8]

Better safe then sorry bro. Even at 250mg of test i start getting sore. Just be safe

 

[littleWOOD]

The dosages that you take don't really matter. It ultimately depends on your own propensity for gyno. Some guys develop gyno on 250mg/wk of sust, and 200mg/wk of deca, but other guys may not develop any problems with doses in the 600 - 1000mg range. Just be safe, and have both on hand just in case. In my own experience, the gyno associated with deca is much more rare, than that associated with test, but again it depends on your own body.