Ergopharm 11-OXO

[lanky]

PA added a new supplement to his line....(11 keto androstenedione),,,one metabolite may or may not be 11keto testosterone,,,supposivly its main action(and what it is marketed as) is as a selective cortisol modulator..i will let you know my review when my order arrives

 

[ksa]

cant wait for your review/short log.

what supps u using beside 11-oxo.

 

[truckdaddy]

the 3ad claims to have the same comound but double the MG and caps.....have you looked at that?

 

[Nelson Montana]

PA is always adding or subtracting a molecule here and there to an existing crappy supplement in order to create another crappy supplement.

After all the disaterous, supressive and inneffective supplements he's come out with, I'm surprised anyone is still to impressed by his work.

11 OXO -- does that make it five times more worthless than 6 OXO?

I don't care how much pharamcological knowledge was necessary to create something if the end result is bad.

Has everyone forgotten androsteine and nor androsteine and 1AD? They were all from the mind of PA and all meant to be legal steroids and they all turned out to be bogus estrogen bloating garbage.

Can't wait to see what he's selling next.

 

[lanky]

PA is always adding or subtracting a molecule here and there to an existing crappy supplement in order to create another crappy supplement.

After all the disaterous, supressive and inneffective supplements he's come out with, I'm surprised anyone is still to impressed by his work.

11 OXO -- does that make it five times more worthless than 6 OXO?

I don't care how much pharamcological knowledge was necessary to create something if the end result is bad.

Has everyone forgotten androsteine and nor androsteine and 1AD? They were all from the mind of PA and all meant to be legal steroids and they all turned out to be bogus estrogen bloating garbage.

Can't wait to see what he's selling next.

I disagree with you on the whole andro being innefective,,1-ad was a great ph,,nordiol and androdiol as well,,i do agree they did have very harsh side effects that i noticed myself...for the past 7 years i have found PA's products to be effective (except for their all -in- one post work out drink ,which gave me horrible gas). Keep in mind i do not buy every product PA comes out with.

I have tried almost every ph out there post ph ban of 2005....none have worked as of yet due to unknown factors maybe they did not contain the proposed ingredient.

SNS methyl drol xt(superdrol clone) about 70mg day ,3 bottles--no results
IDS mass tabs (17a methyl stenbolone) 2 tabs(60mg i think)- no results
Generic labz- mega H(halodrol clone) 100mg day- no results
generic labs mega trn- 17b methoxy trenbolone- skin looked good-felt weak/no muscle
Spectra force research hemaguno/ oxyguno/furaguno--tried all three with no results even 3 times the reccomended dose.hemaguno made my skin itch.
anabolic xtreeme--mass fx-4 caps a day--little boost in libido--nothing much else, had to stop short because it made me smell funny.

I think i spent well over $500 to test all these supps,,,well there goes the money i was saving to help put a down payment on a bass boat.

 

[lanky]

cant wait for your review/short log.

what supps u using beside 11-oxo.

no other supplements

 

[lanky]

the 3ad claims to have the same comound but double the MG and caps.....have you looked at that?

yea..i have heard that ax 3'ad may contain more 11keto androstenedione when it comes out in a month or so(it seems like ax release their products when high schools get out on summer break) (PA released his the week of college graduations). good marketing on both accounts..

i dont visit the bb.com or anabolic minds forum to much anymore ,,,so much drama there,,and everything is overhyped.

i just started the 11 oxo yesterday..package came overnight delivery even though i paid for 3'rd day air (dps nutrition makes a killing off of me) sigh..

 

[truckdaddy]

did you trty the Epi/havoc stuff?....i thought they worked pretty well with zero sides.

yea..i have heard that ax 3'ad may contain more 11keto androstenedione when it comes out in a month or so(it seems like ax release their products when high schools get out on summer break) (PA released his the week of college graduations). good marketing on both accounts..

i dont visit the bb.com or anabolic minds forum to much anymore ,,,so much drama there,,and everything is overhyped.

i just started the 11 oxo yesterday..package came overnight delivery even though i paid for 3'rd day air (dps nutrition makes a killing off of me) sigh..

 

[lanky]

did you trty the Epi/havoc stuff?....i thought they worked pretty well with zero sides.

I tried hemaguno (same chemical as epistane/havoc) based on the bottle label, i noticed my skin was a little itchy when i would start to sweat during the begining of my workout, maybe a little strenght increase(keep in mind i was off of work during the time i was taking the supplement so i just basicly ate/slept/ and went to the gym for those 4 weeks and was stress free, so that could have played a factor in the strength...

as fot the 11-oxo,,been on it two days, yesterdays w/o was normal. nothing to note yet..did not have much to eat today,,,work was crazy, 2 more 12 hr shifts to go this week

 

[nicolus]

PA is always adding or subtracting a molecule here and there to an existing crappy supplement in order to create another crappy supplement.

After all the disaterous, supressive and inneffective supplements he's come out with, I'm surprised anyone is still to impressed by his work.

11 OXO -- does that make it five times more worthless than 6 OXO?

I don't care how much pharamcological knowledge was necessary to create something if the end result is bad.

Has everyone forgotten androsteine and nor androsteine and 1AD? They were all from the mind of PA and all meant to be legal steroids and they all turned out to be bogus estrogen bloating garbage.

Can't wait to see what he's selling next.

You really think so? I have used two or three bottle of 6-oxo with creatine and arginine and thought that it worked well enough - keeping in mind that nothing legal is going to compare to the powerful illegal ones... Given that it was hyped up alot...

 

[ZGzaZ]

PA is always adding or subtracting a molecule here and there to an existing crappy supplement in order to create another crappy supplement.

After all the disaterous, supressive and inneffective supplements he's come out with, I'm surprised anyone is still to impressed by his work.

11 OXO -- does that make it five times more worthless than 6 OXO?

I don't care how much pharamcological knowledge was necessary to create something if the end result is bad.

Has everyone forgotten androsteine and nor androsteine and 1AD? They were all from the mind of PA and all meant to be legal steroids and they all turned out to be bogus estrogen bloating garbage.

Can't wait to see what he's selling next.

Simple math lesson: 6 x 5 = 30.

 

[lanky]

nothing to comment on yet, i am betwen 4-6 caps a day

 

[Mysterio]

Out of everything he made his 1-AD and 4-AD was some of the best legal stuff he made and it worked. Good strenght increase and made me more defined. I hear the best thing out now is superdrol but has harsh sides.

 

[truckdaddy]

i just pre-ordered the 3-ad, im a sucker for new supps. spend a few grand a year on em.

 

[lanky]

scalp actually has been a little bit more greasy,,nothing else yet to comment on

 

[lanky]

,,,my scalp actually feels good(not tight and dry like it normally is) and my hair is looking better while taking this supplement, scalp oil has increased...an interesting finding so far..went to the gym today,no strenght increase, weight/muscle, or pumps yet. about 4 more days worth of pills left

 

[truckdaddy]

,,,my scalp actually feels good(not tight and dry like it normally is) and my hair is looking better while taking this supplement, scalp oil has increased...an interesting finding so far..went to the gym today,no strenght increase, weight/muscle, or pumps yet. about 4 more days worth of pills left

sounds worthless.........a good shampoo can do that.

 

[lanky]

scalp continues to feel good.i noticed my skin is a little bit more sensitive to the sun while on this supplement...might have to pick up another bottle for my hair.....watch out Fabio...here comes lanky....

 

[ksa]

4-6 caps a day for the last 16 days ~ 64-96 caps till now?

whats your pct like?

planning on using 6-OXO or 6-OXO Extreme during pct?

by the way im interested in knowing how you're dosing everything.

 

[lanky]

some days i have been dosing 2-3 caps a day because of crazy work schedule, i have about 5 caps left,,my training and eating has been terible lately,,i just ordered three more bottles of 11-OXO..i noticed a few pimples on my face that have poped up in the past two days, urine has been a little bit darker than normal..i do not plan on running Pct

 

[skullcrushin22]

some days i have been dosing 2-3 caps a day because of crazy work schedule, i have about 5 caps left,,my training and eating has been terible lately,,i just ordered three more bottles of 11-OXO..i noticed a few pimples on my face that have poped up in the past two days, urine has been a little bit darker than normal..i do not plan on running PCT - post cycle therapy -

Why pick up three more bottles if youre not seeing any gains in the gym?

 

[ksa]

i do not plan on running PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy -

The only time i dont plant on doing a PCT is when im doin 3 caps/day.

SO if you don't mind losing what you gained. then yes dont PCT.

but if you do heres how to do it.

2 bottles 6-OXO:

6 caps 6-OXO for 10 days
4 caps 6-OXO for ~~~~~
2 caps 6-OXO ~~~~~~~

or

1 bottle 6-OXO Extreme:
8 caps 6-oxo extreme for 5 days
6 caps 6-oxo extreme for 6 days

&

1 bottle 6-oxo:
6 caps 6-oxo for 4 days
4 caps 6-oxo for 4 days
3 caps 6-oxo for 7 days

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Cycle support by Anabolic Innovation is something to be considered during

the whole cycle.

 

[Nelson Montana]

No results. I rest my case.

Why not use something that actually does something? See below.

 

[ksa]

some days i have been dosing 2-3 caps a day because of crazy work schedule, i have about 5 caps left,,my training and eating has been terible lately,,i just ordered three more bottles of 11-OXO..i noticed a few pimples on my face that have poped up in the past two days, urine has been a little bit darker than normal..i do not plan on running PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy -

new updates?

 

[lanky]

my scalp continues to feel good, i have not lifted in the past 5 days though i admit my training has been terrible lately i have maintained muscle (which i almost imposible for me)..my urine smells a little bit more musky than normal and is darker..i have had some bad headaches for the past two days..some people over at anabolic minds forum and bb.com forums(PA is over at bb.com forum whith a huge 30 page thread on 11 oxo). most seem to be getting gains, some are not, some say it is melting the fat off them, some say not...one thing i can say for sure of this product is that it is making my hair and skin look better than it has been for the past 7 years

 

[ksa]

thx

I like your updates b/c my diet & w/o is terrible just like yours

 

[jcam222]

Lanky if you took 70mg of SD eod and got no results you are a huge exception to the general experience folks have with that chemical. Perhaps you got a bad batch??

Secondly I am far from a PA fan but I do sense a heavy amount of industry competitive influence in this thread.

 

[lanky]

i had to stop taking this supplement ,,the headaches are getting beyond tollerable. oh god i should have not bought three more bottles.

 

[ksa]

too bad it didnt work well for you.

btw you can sell these over am or bb.com