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Equipoise. Bulk or Cut?

How do you prefer to use Eq?

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digit0x

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For any of you who are knowledgable about it, or have used it, which use do you find to be more effective?
 
too hard to cut with EQ...it's going to make you hungry most of the time
 
You could argue it's good for both & Diet will be the determining factor in your success.

Most will probably say EQ w/ cutting (vascualirty ect., low water retention) but w/some it can increase appetite so that could be helpful on a bulker. I would think if your bulking you would want to go w/Test or Deca or both
 
As Mr X said it makes u hungry; So most people use it to bulk. If u wanna use it to cut then use an appetite suppresant.... It also helps out in vasularity
 
Yea I have read several profiles about it and just haven't seen any strong recommendations for either side. I would think that the increased appetite would help bulk like you said, but also you see the increased vascularity and the fact that it does not promote as much water retention as say test. I can see both sides, but how is it most effective?
 
Im using it right now. Im in a cutting cycle and currently running 800EQ/550Test and had 8 weeks of 50mg winny in there. Honestly, if I were going to bulk I would stick to a combo of Test/Deca and maybe throw some dbol or tbol in at the start over an EQ-based cycle. I've done a Test/Deca bulker and loved it.

I have only used EQ in my current cycle, so my experience with it is really limited. :coffee:
 
I'm prone to gyno and water retention, so I prefer it over deca for bulking. I'm actually about to start a test e/eq/dbol bulker in a couple of days. This is my favorite bulking cycle.
 
it can be used for either, it all depends on your discipline. If you can diet while being extra hungery it will help define and give you vascularity. bulking it will increase appetite, more food more cals, more cals, more strength, etc etc
 
nomad05 said:
I used 400mg EQ for 12 weeks; didn't notice appetite increase..I don't think I am alone
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Ditto for me at 600 mg/week....have never had appetitie increase. Have never gone above 600 mg either.......
 
Mr.X said:
too hard to cut with EQ...it's going to make you hungry most of the time
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This actually helps me to cut. I get so tired of bland chicken breasts and egg whites. The increased hunger from EQ helps me to eat clean calories because I'm always hungry. Between meals I drink a lot of cold water.
 
solidspine said:
I can’t remember but don’t you get super hungry on EQ?

Like crazy hungry?
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My training partner gets crazy hungry, but he already has little self-control and tends to get sloppy with his diet.

My hunger is considerably more than pre-EQ, but it's nothing that I can't control (not the crazy hunger that some describe).
 
Eq has never increased my appetite at all, ever. I've used it countless times, and I just do not get that from it like others do. Through my own trial and error, i'd only ever use it again while cutting.

BMJ
 
you can control the hunger, though i would never want to. i didn't vote cause its either, its a lean bulker for me. i put on nothing but shredded mass, my libido is insane even without test. love the stuff
 
I like to use it as part of my cutting cycle and I also don't get really hungry when I/m on it at least no more than usual. I don't like to take it any less than 12 weeks also cause I really like the effects around the 10-14 weeks!
 
yea i ran from 4/26 till last monday. so about 17 weeks. it really kicks in like week 8-10. so it would have been a waste at 12 weeks
 
bruce410 said:
yea i ran from 4/26 till last monday. so about 17 weeks. it really kicks in like week 8-10. so it would have been a waste at 12 weeks
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Yea the last two times I ran the EQ for 16 weeks and I got my best results from it.
 
bruce410 said:
you can control the hunger, though i would never want to. i didn't vote cause its either, its a lean bulker for me. i put on nothing but shredded mass, my libido is insane even without test. love the stuff
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This brings me to another point.

I know a lot of bros run a 'Bulk' cycle to gain mass, then a 'Cut' regimen to get rid of fat gained during the bulk. Is this the most efficient way of acheving a monster physique?

Or would two cycles of 'Lean Mass" have a greater or equal effect?
 
i only go for lean mass. water weight and intense steroid gains do nothing for me. i like mild and moderate gains that go over a gradual period. i am going to run primo, eq, and npp next cycle. no test, tren, dbols, drol nothing like that. i keep it all and i like it that way. of course i do not have the ability to get fat so no matter what my cycles will be lean gains. its just a matter of sides and what not. equipoise gives me no sides keeps my libido.
 
hey what do youu guys thing the lowest dose of eq would be to get the high RBC's but not really put on any muscle....i am at the top of the middle-heavy weight division and i have 5 tournaments coming up in the next 2 1/2 months...was thinking of running it low with some aifm for the RBC's and the aifm to keep off any water. thanks bros
 
Cauliflower Ear said:
hey what do youu guys thing the lowest dose of eq would be to get the high RBC's but not really put on any muscle....i am at the top of the middle-heavy weight division and i have 5 tournaments coming up in the next 2 1/2 months...was thinking of running it low with some aifm for the RBC's and the aifm to keep off any water. thanks bros
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any EQ is gonna raise your RBC count to some degree
...but i would imagine for what your asking 400mg to 600mg a week ought to do it.
 
what will high RBC count really mean anyway? how does high RBC effect the body? does EQ thicken the blood? if so i don't think it's a good choice to use w/ winny. i don't think u would want to use a drug like winny which can increase cholesterol at same time using something that thickens the blood. i cannot decide if i will use EQ or primo in next cutting cycle w/ proviron, T3, AIFM and winny. not sure about 300/wk prop or not yet. i would like to use both EQ and primo but $ is an issue these days w/ big ass mortgage, expensive as shit pot, car payments, bills and a child and wife. what happened to the good ol days of me blowing all my money on partying, juice, drugs and staying out for days....? oh well.....
 
AhMadKooL said:
As Mr X said it makes u hungry; So most people use it to bulk. If u wanna use it to cut then use an appetite suppresant.... It also helps out in vasularity
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What are some options for good appetite suppressants out there? Im about to start EQ and I have a crazy appetite when Im not on anything
 
WHATS WRONG WITH MIDGET PORN!!!!!
SNORTING HORSERADISH OFF MIDGET PORNSTARS IS EVEN BETTER!
i like their little muffin type hands,,,,,
 
Used it @ 400mg/wk and no hunger pangs...... dbol on the other hand made me eat everything in site.
EQ gives me nice veins, but also increases your RBC which I can't afford right now. Doing Primo cycle now.
 
It makes me hungry ,so i thing bulk but at 36
my diet is fairly good it has to be fat comes off
to slow so its been good to help eat more of the
right stuff .
Brad.
 
if appetite n check it would be a great cutter addiotn
do to MARKED increases in endurance
and of course pumps
 
I used to it cut. I dont really like or do bulking cycles...I cant stand it when my face gets bloated and unfortunately that is what gets puffy on me. This is why I am currently using 4 sprays ed of AIFM to keep the friggin bloat down. I used 5 sprays ed during my summer cycle which was test/eq/var....great cycle btw.
 
Both ...of course but for me it never makes me hungery at all ........

hint : i am eating my food like the kid who take his medication .don't like to eat at alllllllll...damn it, suffering too much and the food now in front of me since 40 min . just looking at it and so many times my wife to come saying please eat......lol...so let me go to eat ..........misery
 
digit0x said:
For any of you who are knowledgable about it, or have used it, which use do you find to be more effective?
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You can use it effectively for both,,,,diet will be the difference.
 
no when rbc is increased you can have more stamina as there is a lot of oxygen passing thru the blood. it raises the appetite as well
 
bruce410 said:
no when rbc is increased you can have more stamina as there is a lot of oxygen passing thru the blood. it raises the appetite as well
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you know bruce you are def right on the red blood cell count and oxygen....but i really dont think that it is the high RBC count that makes you eat like a horse on eq...cause for me...i eat like a FUCCKIN HORSE!!!! on eq....but when i do ccycles of EPO to get my RBC count up to 55% before a fight...my hunger is not there at all...but as soon as the bolderone compound is in there..i will eat your tricept if there is no chicken breast around.... :)
 
OMEGA said:
if appetite n check it would be a great cutter addiotn
do to MARKED increases in endurance
and of course pumps
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Can EQ be run at 600mg/wk for 15 weeks WITHOUT a low test dose (250mg/wk) if you are gyno prone or will you be shutdown as I am prone to deca dick as well as gyno. Looking for lean mass as my diet will be in check
 
I think its a waste of money, but that's just my personal expereince. Vascularity untill after week 8, and some say they use it with other injections to easy pain in injection site....whatever, just more exotic compounds that IMO are not nessesary for some..
 
It made me super hungry until about week 8, then things leveled out. I have been losing bodyfat and getting more vascular off EQ 600mg ew and test E 800mg ew. So I personally would stick to deca/test to bulk. It seems to me that I have had a really hard time gaining weight on EQ. But everyone says I look bigger and I am up 15 lbs. So maybe it is all in my mind.
 
I get lank hungry... but I eat very well!!!! so I just get very hard... but still i'm very new to tren... it doesn't come close to what tren does to me.... but its VERY mild on my body...

Tren causes some nasty blood (microscopic) + quite a bit of protein in the kidney...

So for a cutting stack i'd say great!!!!
 
00pump said:
I get lank hungry... but I eat very well!!!! so I just get very hard... but still i'm very new to tren... it doesn't come close to what tren does to me.... but its VERY mild on my body...

Tren causes some nasty blood (microscopic) + quite a bit of protein in the kidney...

So for a cutting stack i'd say great!!!!
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hah this post was dead for two years.
 
Love EQ for cutting. Let me just say, if there is a side affect i'd be the one to get it but I get no increase in appetite on EQ and glad of it.
 
I get hunger from it but I am also only eating 200 gms of carbs a day. I find it helps with cardio big time and side veins are killer to have. I love it and usually use it every cycle but the hunger I can deal with.

I t can be used for either
 
Lean Bulking and Cutting are the same fucking thing...
 
Peopel talk about EQ like it was so sick. But to be its BUNK. i will never use it again... Takes to long time to see and feel anything. It is totaly waist of $
 
Well, as far as my experience and exposure to EQ goes ... I have always used it on a bulking cycle, as it makes me "as hungry as a horse" :p ... being a veterinary steroid primarily used on horses ... LOL!!!! It gives most a nice hard look at the end of a cycle, but I usually cycle it with Deca, Test and DBol. Deca is quite calorie dependant and EQ makes me hungry, I just manage what I stuff my face with. Right diet, enough rest, correct training and, honestly, you're bound to see results no matter what you use. 85% of what you gain on a bulk or what you lose on a cut is based on what you put into your mouth (food , not orals :) ) and not on what you shoot up your arse LOL!!! DIET my friends, DIET. :D
 
blue_steel74 said:
I did too and i feel the same way. To be honest, i wasnt impressed at all. The only benefit i noticed from it was that my cardio was easier
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I did not notice much of a hunger increae on it ether . I get more hunger from rs-transaderm then I do EQ. Still it is common report from eq.. The increased cardio is even more reported and it works almost like epo does ..
 
Again, you can diet and bulk on any drug. Some drugs just aromatize more than others, and vice versa. Eq is an awesome drug because it raises the RBC's more than any other steroid.
 
EQ is great for cutting. Your Cardio can increase dramatically while on it. Then add some winny at the end and for me its the best cut cycle there is on a low risk cycle.
 
Currently on sust eq Anavar .. At 400 a week of eq I can not stop fucking eating . I can run and cardio forever also. I am only a month into it and the appetite, vascularity (mixed with var) and nitrogen retention are nothing short of spectacular. My fav compound I'm beginning to think.


Ride it like you stole it!!
 
My appetite was high, so it actually ended being a bulk cycle for me but good gains in size and strength but also is great for increasing cardio, increases your red blood cell count. Using Test/Tren right now and prefer the Test/EQ stack.
 
Not fair man not fair lol

I woulda brought you one in return with sum dbol stuffed in there lol....

Wouldnt that be the shit!? That would make it cross da border for sure dbol donuts! My new recipe
 
equipoise is not very androgenic and it does increase appetite. I would definitely say better as a bulker, but i've never tried cutting with it so not sure there. It would surely help because of increase in blood volume and red blood cell count for a recomp, but just have some pure protein handy when you get the munchies.
 
Jack steel said:
equipoise is not very androgenic and it does increase appetite. I would definitely say better as a bulker, but i've never tried cutting with it so not sure there. It would surely help because of increase in blood volume and red blood cell count for a recomp, but just have some pure protein handy when you get the munchies.
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Good post but not exact. All ppl will react different it did not affect my hunger at all.

Likewise thats what it was designed for to create hunger in animals.
 
TheRippedReverend said:
Not fair man not fair lol

I woulda brought you one in return with sum dbol stuffed in there lol....

Wouldnt that be the shit!? That would make it cross da border for sure dbol donuts! My new recipe
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Dbol donuts, katana cakes, tren twinkies ...

We could do a whole line of aas-laced desserts. I smell a business opportunity.

Sent from my Desire HD using EliteFitness
 
TheRippedReverend said:
Good post but not exact. All ppl will react different it did not affect my hunger at all.

Likewise thats what it was designed for to create hunger in animals.
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Ya, true, I don't exactly get a massive appetite but I do find that I eat more often. At least I think I do. I'm never really thinking about it when I'm actually on a cycle of it. In any case it's definitely NOT a severe increase that would be hard to control or anything. Nothing like ghrp-6 etc.
 
I've never cut with it. I run high test til it kicks in and then trt cruise. Works wonders for lean bulk. My strength goes apeshyte and my arms look like roadmaps. Also, if you're 170+ you should be running 600mgs. Almost zero aromatase and insane endurance. Probably my fav cycle. It would be nice to run with var and prop but I seriously think a crazy appetite suppressant would be a necessity. The only hunger that compares is ghrp-6 post workout.
 
The option for BOTH would have been good, and I have used it extensively for both. I think it works for both type of cycles, and since I get pretty damn hungry on any cycle, I don't think EQ makes me much hungrier than anything else.
 
You can use it either way. If I was going to build a cycle around it I would bulk but it just depends on how long and what you will be stacking with it.
Personally I love Boldenone. It's awesome with Test C or E for 20wks.

~ JohnyCoolNuts ~
 
the reason why eq is loved is because of the fact you could cut or bulk with it. EQ gets you vascular as a mother f*ker but the thing with EQ is that it must be run a loooong time because it does take a little bit for it fully kick in (around the 6th week). 600-800/week is the sweet spot!
 
I agree. Like the above said, it gives you that vascularity that you love. At the same time you get so hungry on it so a lot of people like it for its hunger gains.
 
I did test Cyp & EQ for a lean bulker with a beastdrol kickstart. I got VERY vascular, put on a few pounds of lean muscle, literally no water retention (but that coulda been the Liquidex). My cardio was up, appetite up. It was great. Only downside is it takes at least 12 weeks to see anything with it and I only ran a 14wk cycle
 
I'm currently using Test Cyp 100mg a week and Equigan 400mg weekly and I haven't noticed any hunger issues at all thankfully because I'm trying to lose weight....
 
I'm 4 weeks in to the following stack, hungers starting to kick in this week :(

test e 750
Decca 300
Eq 500,
Will be adding d-Bol this week & proviron when I manage to get it...

Doing at least another 12 weeks on this
 
I wouldn't waste money on AAS for cutting unless I am preparing to walk on the stage which I am not. I've never tried cutting on AAS but people always advised me against it. I was told by people with more experience that I need to learn to follow a good diet and exercise to cut. If I can't do that, then AAS is a waste of money. I've never used EQ but I've witnessed people reporting lean gains using it. I used Deca and I think it is king in bulking cycles especially the way my joints felt.
 
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