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Kris923

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hello everyone, am on my third week of a winstrol only cycle, 1cc eod. I keep hearing that doing EQ with the winstrol will increase my gains and will cut me more than i can imagine. My question i guess is, if i want to add EQ to the cycle how many cc's would i do, how often and how many weeks, or is it too late to introduce EQ to the cycle. And are the results really that good?


thank you guys

kris
 
eq will help you gain more muscle, but for the thousandth time people, the drugs don't cut you, diet and cardio do!!
 
drrman, sorry i didn't include that i am dieting and i am doing 30 minutes of cardio. am 5 8 170 ,, am just looking to get ripped, will it be a good idea to do eq and if so how would i add it into my current cycle.
thank you
kris
 
Yeh, eq won't hurt you at all, if you are eating right and training right it will definitely help you...i'd add it in there. 400mg per week is plenty, but i think eq works best over long durations...12-14 weeks...thats from experience.....eq makes a lot of people very hungry though
 
DRRman, am confused about the 400mg, am new at this the only measurement i know is cc's. lol.. (dummy). how many cc's a week would that be and how often do i have to inject? and can i inject in a different area than my butt,, cause winstrol is killing me, am so sore everytime i do a shot.
 
one more question, i keep getting like a lump in my butt after the injection and thats the sore spot, its becoming a pain having to inject right on top of the sore lump. how do i get rid of it, or is that something that am gonna have to deal with.
 
1ml = 1cc.... Each injectable drug has a certain concentration, such as 50mg/ml which means 1cc (ml) of a 50mg/ml injectable has 50mg of the given drug. Like your winstrol is probably 50mg/ml or 100mg/ml, in which case you are taking 50 or 100mg of it eod... Many EQ's come in only 50mg/ml but there are a few TT and i forget a few of the others that come in higher concentrations.... If you're not used to injecting, or don't like it that much, buying a 50mg/ml version of EQ wouldn't be the best idea for you as you'd have to inject it a lot to get up to 400mg/week of it... I hope that wasn't confusing, i typed it fast...

YUM
 
If you can get eq in 200mg/ml then you would only have to take two cc's per week...2X200=400mg..get it?

Tokkyo, quality vet both make 200mg/ml, Denkall makes a 100mg/ml, with that you'd have to take 4cc's per week to get 400mg.

As for the lumps, you are going to have that, you should start looking for other places to inject, i like winny in my delts, you can also do quads, so two ass cheeks, two delts, and two quads, thats six injection spots to rotate.....very easy
 
thanks for the response guys, now i get the mg's.. should i add the EQ to the cycle now, and should i inject seperately from the winstrol? or could i mix, like i was told by someone?
 
You can mix them, and it actually might help stop the EQ from jamming in the pin (if you've had that problem at all)... I would add it ASAP and run it for a minimum of 8 weeks to see good results, preferably 10..

YUM
 
Kris, if you do not understand something as simplistic as mg/ml ei the amount of an actual drug present in each "cc" of your eq then you really have no business doing steroids. Also bear in mind that you are already 3 weeks into a winstrol only cycle. Due to the hepa-toxic nature of winstrol most would advise that you limit your cycles of winstrol to 6 weeks. Eq has a very long chain ester, so it will be 2 to 3 weeks afteryour first injections before you see high blood concentrations of the drug, so your cycle will be over. Anyway, who gave you the idea to do a winstol only cycle? Such a waste.
 
I would not mix EQ and Winny as one is water and one is oil. My friend tried that same thing except he used suspension and it hurt worse.

60 days is too short a cycle to ad EQ. Maybe oxandrolone would be a better choice
 
To pharmguy and body by finaplix.....first off, the guy came here for advice, everyone doesn't know everything, and when you are using drugs that make you VERY nervous such as steroids and sticking yourself with needles, you usually second guess yourself. NOT everyone came on this board before using steroids, i know i didn't.. I took the advice of a gym rat, after a week i decided to research and learned there is much more to it....he's already started so helping him is what we should be here for. Everyone is so quick to bash the "newbie" when that is why they are called "newbies" better him asking than just taking a guess and going with it...so lay off of him.....

next, you can mix oil and water in the same syringe, it goes in the same place, i've done it for years with no problems. SUspension hurts no matter what you mix it with.....and willy said it right, but meant eq will help the winny from clogging and it will
 
DRRman;

Nothing in my post was offensive, or "bashing the newbie" I dont "newbie bash" And if you disagree about the winny/oil mixing you can just say so, my opinion is valid too isnt it?
 
DRR, I understand where you are coming from, however if you don't understand the concept of dose, ei mg you should not be injecting something into your body. I meet guys at my gym who having done 2 or 3 cycles who talk in "cc's" and have no idea how much of a drug they did on their last cycle. It blows my mind. usually I sit down and give them a lecture and try to give them enough advice to not hurt themselves. I had a rather bad evening last night, and am probably just taking it out on him.

Kris, sorry for being a dick and taking out my girl problems on you. Anyway, read up and do some research before you take your steroid use any further.
 
Save your $$$...its too late to add some eq...

I would say you could add fina if you started this week...but you sound like you need wayyyyy more research before you jump on that wagon...however, oxandrolone is right on the money (pharmguy's advise). This is another substance (other than winny,EQ,Fina) that is great to use in a cutter...no water retention, strongly anti-catabolic, very mild sides, and known for eliminating estro-related fat in the abdomen (I read that somewhere on this board -- maybe HUCK can back me up on that one).
 
pharmguy said:
DRRman;

Nothing in my post was offensive, or "bashing the newbie" I dont "newbie bash" And if you disagree about the winny/oil mixing you can just say so, my opinion is valid too isnt it?

i should have split that up bro, i didn't mean to be repremanding you there, i just meant to say i was disagreeing with you...sorry
 
guys thanks for all he replies, bodybyfina no big deal dude i just want some advice, i want to get a good rip , but this will be my only time using steroids. So what is the final verdict guys, add the EQ or not? And if so for how long, i've gotten two different suggestions?
thank you guys for everything

kris
 
BodyByFinaplix said:
DRR, I understand where you are coming from, however if you don't understand the concept of dose, ei mg you should not be injecting something into your body. I meet guys at my gym who having done 2 or 3 cycles who talk in "cc's" and have no idea how much of a drug they did on their last cycle. It blows my mind. usually I sit down and give them a lecture and try to give them enough advice to not hurt themselves. I had a rather bad evening last night, and am probably just taking it out on him.

Kris, sorry for being a dick and taking out my girl problems on you. Anyway, read up and do some research before you take your steroid use any further.

I have to agree, body is not being to harsh, guys at my golds also have no clue how much test their shooting, there just going off of their buddys "CC" advice which is insane.
 
It is too late in the cycle to add eq, unless you plan on extending this 60days (21days already gone) to like 8 more weeks after you start the eq...so to answer your question...according to your current cycle plan it is too late to add Eq - IMO.
 
sh4dowf4lcon, so your suggestion is to extend my winnie cycle? am doing eod and i've done one shot this week, i will be doing 400mg of EQ for 10 weeks, should i extend the EQ or the winstrol? I really want to do the EQ because of the great results that i hear.
thank you everyone for the help

kris
 
Sorry Bro, did not subscribe to this thread and I missed the question. Should have PM me, so I could respond to the question, I just happened across your question just now.

What I am getting @ is Eq should be taken for 8 weeks or more, because it is a slower acting drug. If you only take it for six weeks, it would work but it really takes hold around the thrid or fourth week...so if you start Eq now, eight weeks would extend your cycle to 12 or 14 weeks or something. So in my opinion you should finish a six week regimine with Winny, then on the next cycle use Eq from the start.

My suggestion for you would be frontload the first week @ 500mg then second week 400mg then drop to 300mg weekly for the next 5 weeks. Frontloading gets the eq in your system faster and gets the levels in your bloodstream quicker. I would use two shots a week. So if you are taking 400mg weekly then two shots @ 200mg.

I hope this helps you understand what I had in mind with the previous post. Sorry about the delayed response.
 
z28stud97 said:
the poizon makes you big time hungry tho..... careful

Yes, Eq has been known to cause the user to have an increased appetite. This doesn't mean you have to eat 3 Big Macs, 3 Large Fries, and 3 burrito supremes. I mean hell you can stop hunger pains with a Tuna salad, broccoli and cheese and 20oz of Skim Milk.

Hunger isn't a bad thing, some people have to watch what they eat, some dont. I do. I just went from 275 to 258 in the last nine weeks. Mostly due to cardio, eating 5 clean meals a day, and lifting weights. I was going to use T3, but changed my mind...didn't need it and why chance the sides or permanent thyroid problems.

No fast food and some cardio will help alot of people to lose fat without any drugs. I am stronger and my body looks better, but I have more work. Don't worry about being hungry, just eat good food and train.
 
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