EQ or Deca

[hvylifter2]

I'm planning my second cycle which I want to be more of a cutter. I was thinking of Winny and EQ but I'm a little worried about the joint pain. The first cycle was Deca/Sust and I really liked how the joints felt from the Deca.

Will EQ help out with the joints at all or am I better off with Winny and Deca?

 

[Ulcasterdropout]

EQ for me

 

[hvylifter2]

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[UA_Iron]

Deca is the best for the joints hands down, EQ I didnt notice a difference. Winny will be an issue though, if you're worried about joint pain do not run winny.

 

[hard life]

if you want more of a cutter I would take winny/eq

 

[hvylifter2]

Has anyone tried that stack? Any joint problems.

 

[Bruce]

winny kills my joints, if you can get it at reasonable price get it instead of winny. i will never touch winstrol again because of the damn joint pain. eq and deca are both awesome

 

[marky105]

EQ fro me

 

[The Terminator]

I'm planning my second cycle which I want to be more of a cutter. I was thinking of Winny and EQ but I'm a little worried about the joint pain. The first cycle was Deca/Sust and I really liked how the joints felt from the Deca.

Will EQ help out with the joints at all or am I better off with Winny and Deca?

EQ will not help your joints to feel better...
I am still unsure where that unfounded rumor emerged from

EQ for better lean mass, while Deca tends to put on more sheer size...

 

[pentatonic]

Winstrol never bothered my joints. May not bother yours unless you've already tried it and know that it does. I've done Deca at 400mg/week and never could tell a differenc in my joints, they've always just felt normal. I agree with what Terminator said, EQ tends to put more lean mass on me while Deca adds more overall size, I get bigger alot quicker on Deca but I also get bloated. I really like EQ but I don't dislike Deca.

 

[Makavelli]

For dieting EQ, for bulking deca. If you've never done winstrol, you should try it out before worrying about your joints. I've never had any joint problems on winstrol and I've used it plenty of times.

 

[hvylifter2]

Thanks for the replies. I am going to go with EQ/Winny and hopefully my joints will be all right. I did like the Deca but the bloating started to get to me after awhile.

 

[craigsuperbig]

having used both in my first cycle ever, I can offer you some advice

I started using Eq (800mg/wk), and afterwards switched to deca (800-1000 mg/wk), and growth resumed!!!
Eq gives you more pump, perhaps is more androgenic, but deca grows a bit more, but you may get some temporary impotence from it.

I prefer deca to eq, but just because deca is 200 mg/ml and eq 50 mg/ml

 

[Neo22]

EQ for better lean mass, while Deca tends to put on more sheer size...

Ok can you put that in english? Because lean mass and size are really the same.

 

[LVTitan]

Ok can you put that in english? Because lean mass and size are really the same.

no they are not. LBM (lean mass) is muscle. lean muscle. what you want.

sheer size is just that: muscle, fat, water, anything that adds pounds and size, but is not necessarily pure muscle that can be kept.
you will lose water weight after a cycle, maybe some muscle, and who really wants to add fat ?

 

[LVTitan]

having used both in my first cycle ever, I can offer you some advice

I started using Eq (800mg/wk), and afterwards switched to deca (800-1000 mg/wk), and growth resumed!!!
Eq gives you more pump, perhaps is more androgenic, but deca grows a bit more, but you may get some temporary impotence from it.

I prefer deca to eq, but just because deca is 200 mg/ml and eq 50 mg/ml

i am getting so sick of reading your posts ..
who the fuck does a gram of gear on their first cycle. of course you fucking grew !! and there is no way eq is more androgenic than deca..
when's the last time anyone used 50mg eq anyway ? maybe some mexican shit... and my deca has always been 300mg

 

[Neo22]

no they are not. LBM (lean mass) is muscle. lean muscle. what you want.

sheer size is just that: muscle, fat, water, anything that adds pounds and size, but is not necessarily pure muscle that can be kept.
you will lose water weight after a cycle, maybe some muscle, and who really wants to add fat ?

I guess my definition of size is different than yours. I consider your def of size = mass.

 

[organon250]

EQ is best of the two for cutting and i never experienced the joint pain from winny so its just a personal thing some people are more sensitive too than others.. which is how it goes with most gear you just have to give them a shot and see what stacks work best for you personally but again eq/winny sound the best for cutting

 

[LVTitan]

I guess my definition of size is different than yours. I consider your def of size = mass.

no no... size is size is mass you are correct.
but LEAN size refers only the MUSCLE you have gained, which can be kept btw.
SHEER SIZE is just bigger in general, can be fat, bloat, water weight, muscle,etc.. understand.

gaining lean mass and being ripped is good for physique (in my opinion )
whereas you could bulk , gain a shitload of sheer size but have no difinition and look like the staypuft man and then need to cut it down, understand better ? hope that helps

 

[Neo22]

no no... size is size is mass you are correct.
but LEAN size refers only the MUSCLE you have gained, which can be kept btw.
SHEER SIZE is just bigger in general, can be fat, bloat, water weight, muscle,etc.. understand.

gaining lean mass and being ripped is good for physique (in my opinion )
whereas you could bulk , gain a shitload of sheer size but have no difinition and look like the staypuft man and then need to cut it down, understand better ? hope that helps

So based on that what do you recommend for a first cycle? I have test E that I was going to run. SHould I run something different? I like to remain lean and shred down a bit if possible.

 

[LVTitan]

So based on that what do you recommend for a first cycle? I have test E that I was going to run. SHould I run something different? I like to remain lean and shred down a bit if possible.

i would always recommend test e or sust for a first cycle. what are your stats and lifting experience ?

the shredding part will come down to your diet mostly , especially with test which is a good bulking compound. take some arimidex or nolva to counteract the bloat that most people get with test. i dont really bloat, so i never needed the anti-e's myself.

 

[Neo22]

i would always recommend test e or sust for a first cycle. what are your stats and lifting experience ?

the shredding part will come down to your diet mostly , especially with test which is a good bulking compound. take some arimidex or nolva to counteract the bloat that most people get with test. i dont really bloat, so i never needed the anti-e's myself.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=166182

Those are my pics height and weight. I've been lifting seriously for around 3 years. The results have stopped. As you can tell I'm already holding fat and water.

 

[The Terminator]

Ok can you put that in english? Because lean mass and size are really the same.

LVTitan summed it up pretty good, but I'll put in my own words for you too

By "lean mass" I mean JUST LBM weight (lean muscle mostly, with LITTLE water, but NO FAT weight included)

Sheer mass is just TOTAL WEIGHT...Muscle, FAT, water, bloating, etc...
(sheer mass is NOT something that looks very asthetically pleasing imo ) and is to be avoided if one wants to look their best

 

[LVTitan]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=166182

Those are my pics height and weight. I've been lifting seriously for around 3 years. The results have stopped. As you can tell I'm already holding fat and water.

damn bro why are you tripping ? no offense but you dont really need to add any size unless you want to get into "freak" status. if you are clean i would stay that way SERIOUSLY.

if you look those pics still you have nothing to worry about. that is the exact body that will get you all the pussy you can handle. any bigger and you start scaring 'em off... maybe just chisel it a little more....
hope this didn't sound

 

[silverbackn]

Neo, just run 500mg's of test for your first cycle. If you're worried about bloat run a-dex with it and you'll be straight.

 

[Neo22]

damn bro why are you tripping ? no offense but you dont really need to add any size unless you want to get into "freak" status. if you are clean i would stay that way SERIOUSLY.

if you look those pics still you have nothing to worry about. that is the exact body that will get you all the pussy you can handle. any bigger and you start scaring 'em off... maybe just chisel it a little more....
hope this didn't sound

Bro, I'm small. My body needs a lot of improvement. I want to get bigger and then shred down. Thanks for teh comps.

 

[LVTitan]

Bro, I'm small. My body needs a lot of improvement. I want to get bigger and then shred down. Thanks for teh comps.

no, i'm small. only 140lbs but ripped and defined.

 

[Bruce]

u guys have to remember diet is the only thing that matters on a cycle, and given that eq boosts the appetite like crazy it is a great compound to bulk with.

 

[Bruce]

lvtitan whats your bf

 

[flex2win]

having used both in my first cycle ever, I can offer you some advice

I started using Eq (800mg/wk), and afterwards switched to deca (800-1000 mg/wk), and growth resumed!!!
Eq gives you more pump, perhaps is more androgenic, but deca grows a bit more, but you may get some temporary impotence from it.

I prefer deca to eq, but just because deca is 200 mg/ml and eq 50 mg/ml

WTF are you talking about?? Uh last time I checked, EQ is regarded as being more anabolic vs androgenic, and it does come in doses higher than 50mg/ml...your posts really do lack here on this board..

 

[LVTitan]

lvtitan whats your bf

somewhere under 5% not sure exactly where. i've gotten a lot of heat from some bros around here i posted about my bf before and got lots of shit talkers coming out of the woodwork...