Epistane and Ostarine

[smclaugh87]

First post here guys..

I am 28 was lifting naturally from 2006-2014. I competed in a few powerlifting comps at 75kg. I have torn my ACL and meniscus twice (playing soccer both times) first time they used my hamstring as a graft for my ACL (bad idea now). Then I re-tore again 2 years ago. I still competed and came 3rd 16 months ago after having my meniscus repaired 12months before (ACL cannot be repaired the 2nd time). I will not be competing again.. 1st off I do not like my body shape anymore and secondly my joint can't keep this up forever..

After my last comp I tried epistane and got some fantastic results. I gained around 4.5kg in weight and got a hell of lot stronger. I ran an OTC PCT and recovered fine but lost a few KG.. Ran another cycle 10 months later and gained some pretty good size again. I now sit around 79kg but a lot leaner. It has been about 7 months since my last cycle.

I want to run an epistane cycle this time with Ostarine. I have a few questions and I'm sure you can't wait to grill me on the OTC PCT. This will not happen this time.

For PCT I am getting some mixed messages. First epi is not supposed to aromatize but in some cases in the past it has. From the research I have done it sounds like Clomid over nolva as this would be better for HPTA recovery? Makes sense to me but maybe I'm wrong?

I wanted to run epi @ 30mg for 6 weeks and osta @ 20mg for 6 weeks. Is it possible to run osta into the first 2 weeks of PCT? This means 8 weeks of osta. I have DAA along with a natural test booster also then either clomid or nolva.

I am 15 weeks away from a holiday for 21 days with the lads (severe drinking sessions) and need to now best time to run full cycle plus PCT and be back to normal for going away?

Can run just ostarine if that makes more sense due to epis toxicity. This is 21 days in Thailand so will be a hell of a lot of alcohol involved and honestly no drugs...

Here for advice lads so go easy

 

[polarbear1134]

Alcohol and steroids don't mix. Wait tell you get back.

 

[Saiyan7]

Alcohol and steroids don't mix. Wait tell you get back.

Completely agree. Unless you want to destroy your liver completely.

 

[smclaugh87]

Pretty much the answer I expected and needed. so I appreciate it and will not take the epi.

Would the ostarine solo be ok to take. I know there is not a huge amount of studies on this but it isn't methylated so can't see this being an issue. Do 20mg osta for 8 weeks?

Last question and feel free to tell me I'm being silly but.. Would 4 weeks epi and osta now then PCT with still running osta be ok? I am now 14 weeks from holiday well 99 days. So gives me 8 weeks ostarine 4 weeks epi 4 weeks PCT 6 weeks to completely reset?

Cheers for the advice guys unlikely to do the epi now.

 

[polarbear1134]

I don't like anything that hasn't been around for quite a while. Even legit prescriptions used for legit issues can have unknown things that don't show up for a decade. Best to stick to stuff that has been around for a while.

 

[smclaugh87]

So after doing a lot of research in past few weeks. I have decided to go with
Week 1-4 Epistane
Week 1-7 Ostarine
Week 8-12 PCT nolva/clomid DAA and natty test booster.

This will give me a 10 week break from the time I stop epistane to the time I go on holiday..
This advice was from other forums, logs and some people I have been messaging. It seems like with the correct cycle support and PCT I will recover fine well before I go.

Again I still want advice and I still have time before I start cycle. If I am doing something idiotic I would rather know now...

Quick question... Will I use both clomid and nolvadex..
Also will I be ok with the gap between PCT and epistane?

 

[bigorse]

personally i have uses osta once and it is best used for 10-12 weeks imo as gains are very slow and it takes a while to really notice much

 

[smclaugh87]

So after doing a lot of research in past few weeks. I have decided to go with
Week 1-4 Epistane
Week 1-7 Ostarine
Week 8-12 PCT nolva/clomid DAA and natty test booster.

This will give me a 10 week break from the time I stop epistane to the time I go on holiday..
This advice was from other forums, logs and some people I have been messaging. It seems like with the correct cycle support and PCT I will recover fine well before I go.

Again I still want advice and I still have time before I start cycle. If I am doing something idiotic I would rather know now...

Quick question... Will I use both clomid and nolvadex..
Also will I be ok with the gap between PCT and epistane?

 

[smclaugh87]

Any other advice guys.

PCT timing?

Length of recovery?

 

[smclaugh87]

Any other advice guys.

Cycle looks like this I am 14 weeks to the day away from my holiday
Epi 30mg week 1-5
Ostarine 20mg week 1-7
Nolva 30/20/20/10 Week 8-12
DAA 3mg Week 8-12
Creatine 5mg Week 8-12
Also have a test booster


PCT timing?

Will my liver recover in time?

Is the gap between epi and PCT ok? This is my main question

Am I ok to start now?